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Value imbalance: The equal counterpart dilemma

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Warning: Might be part of the red pill. Do not read on if you haven’t taken it yet and do not wish to.
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Hey guys,

I remember seeing Alek’s post on whether or not it is easier being a guy or being a girl in the dating world. That’s not what I’d address. Instead, I’d like to bring to light who brings more VALUE into a relationship?

As guys, you lead, break your back to learn the smoothest path, supply her with plausible deniability, and you provide, and if you’re a good enough lover, you’re technically the one who’s more valuable sexually.

Whereas women (get this) tend to bring in value that the guy is also supposed to have.

Sure, in the past she was responsible for motherly love and taking care of the kids while you worked, but we live in an era where both parents need to work in order for the household’s standard of living to be up to standard. Which results in you sharing the chores anyway.

And if you don’t look at it in terms of marriage, then look at it in terms of relationships or flings or whatever. You’re always giving in more effort and value than the woman.

I’m not talking about girls that are 9s paired off with guys that are 4s as it might be obvious that the value in there teeters towards the woman (and even then I have high doubts since beauty vanishes with age and there are ways that guys can make up for their lack of attraction like being the next Albert Einstein). So to be fair, let’s say a 5 and say a 3 are paired off.

If the answer to the question above is:

“Yes, guys put in extreme amounts of value into a relationship compared to women”

well then the question becomes: What’s the point?

You don’t go into a business to make a loss. So why do we do it here when we can just focus on other stuff that may bring more value to ourselves?

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Sidenote: This is more of a question/theory than a stated fact.

Advice and conflicting views are still appreciated :)
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Interesting question.

You're 19, correct?
The point is that when you're 24, you don't say to yourself: "Holy shit all my friends are living an awesome life. X travels. Y has a job at a prestige company. Z has his own business. A has slept with 100 girls. B has an model girlfriend. What have I done?"
 
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IceCream said:
Interesting question.

You're 19, correct?
The point is that when you're 24, you don't say to yourself: "Holy shit all my friends are living an awesome life. X travels. Y has a job at a prestige company. Z has his own business. A has slept with 100 girls. B has an model girlfriend. What have I done?"

Hey man,

Yep. I'll be 2 decades old next month. So as a result I've been more business minded. And one of the things you gotta do in business is assess an exchange of values between yourself and someone else and ensure that you're giving and receiving equal value or that both parties walk away with more value than they had before entering the engagement (one man's trash is another's treasure as they say).

So if you apply this to seduction then stuff doesn't add up. And even seem to be against you.

Anyways, this may be obvious and I'm only catching up now, but it is quite an interesting read. It certainly is a confidence boost as you don't have to worry about supplying to little value in a relationship. But, if it is wrong and women really are undervalued, then it explains why we gotta work so hard to attract them, etc.

Your mentality and strategy in terms of game would differ depending on what the situation is.

E.g:

Bad boys that say "it's my way or the highway" probably know that they have more value than the woman. And thus, her asking him to supplicate to her rules would be way too much loss in his eyes.

Nice guys that bend over backwards to her will probably think that guys don't offer nearly enough value to a woman compared to what she puts in, and thus, they must beg or over-bribe her to stay.

So the question is:

What's the situation? Who brings in more value? Males, or females?
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PS: I get what you're saying, don't compare your life to others. And that makes complete sense and is one of the keys to living a happy life. However, that isn't the problem. It's more regarding the fact that girls require time. And time is money.

Why spend butt loads of time on a person who will or won't give you anything in return?

Thanks for the response though. Always appreciated man.
 

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Turned 20 a month back.

The red pill, in my opinion is very flawed thinking abd for the most part a negative influence.

Women give us sex, companionship, someone we enjoy being around. They cook for us, wash our clothes, they always look their best for us, they try to make us happy, they fiercely protect us, they raise our children, and support us in our mission and encourage us to keep going.

There are many things women bring to relationships... The man's job is to lead her ans give her the right emotions and good sex.

Women are an extension of the man. And the man who has a mission he feels strongly about will make his woman gladly champion this mission as her own and help him and follow him any way she can so that her man succeeds. as long as he's still leading her and giving good sex.


Do you know why the fellas over at redpill don't have that happen to them?

Because they are low quality victim mentality losers who do not inspire any kind of value giving behavior from women, because women who do what I described above only do it for men they respect and follow.

Have you never seen Chase talk about his relationships? You should. You'll see just how much more effort his women put in it more than he does.
 
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