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I'm not whining at all. It seems like you've been making a lot of very uncharitable assumptions about me, when I'm actually just saying things at face value, asking for help in the other thread, and warning guys about what I've seen in this one.

I bet you just don't know how to help with this case.
take it up with management
 

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I'm not angry though? Nor do I have any latent bitterness, I'm not unaware of state changes, have poor fashion choices or bad fitness, nor am I unable to build a connection quickly.

And I don't know what else to call a girl whose only real goal is to extract resources from a guy, if not a whore. From what I've heard, it's even a very common thing in this area - girls will travel here, want to stay (because it's better than where they came from - in this case, a country at war), and will try to manipulate men into giving them allowances.

So I see a few other girls very explicitly doing that, meet a few guys who are very much simps, have a dozen or so encounters at LEAST that make me think the people here are basically shit (ranging from depressive convos to overly aggressive & hostile behavior from the getgo), hear from the locals that it's an open secret and a lot of the women here do it...

Maybe they really liked the guy and I'm just coping... But I think that math adds up.
Alright i see, so you think in that part of the world (eastern europe it sounds) you are dealing with stuff you sense as gold digging based on your experience... Again, it was not that clear from the op, that is why people gave you shit, and then try to refrain from whores/prostitutes.... it made the post confusing.... But for the help you may be dealing with the "russian and some estern european prototype" so yes, many people have had same issue, check out this post, but in the future just stop with imflamatory words, it just confuses content:

 

kevkev39

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Alright i see, so you think in that part of the world (eastern europe it sounds) you are dealing with stuff you sense as gold digging based on your experience... Again, it was not that clear from the op, that is why people gave you shit, and then try to refrain from whores/prostitutes.... it made the post confusing.... But for the help you may be dealing with the "russian and some estern european prototype" so yes, many people have had same issue, check out this post, but in the future just stop with imflamatory words, it just confuses content:


Sure, I can see how I'm being a little over the top lol. I just can't really conceptualize a gold digger whose goal is to have a 19 year old kid on the hook. (Then again, I guess nobody ever said gold diggers had to be -good- at target selection.)

It's possible that this is localized. I've seen a LOT of shitty behavior here even just over the weekend. I'm not one to get into fights, but this weekend it was pretty close after someone actually hit me lol. (It's not that I can't, but I think it's better to laugh that stuff off than to escalate for no good reason - no real damage was done anyway, so eh.)

Also I'm not in EE, actually in Asia right now - one of the "cheaper" places too. I'll be leaving by the end of the week, definitely looking forward to the next place.

As for the Russian / EE thing... My personal experience has usually been different. The last GF I had was Ukrainian and she was a total sweetheart from the first day. Paid for herself, found cool things for us to do, etc. etc. These Ukrainian girls are an exception to the behavior I usually see from them.
 

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the problem still isn’t clear. girls are offering you sex and you’re turning them down but doctors are auto rejecting?

write field reports, you’re most likely to get the help you want there.

cease the whining.

i’m done with the back and forth.


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(and have a happy new year!)

 

POB

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@kevkev39 one thing that I like to do is to NEVER slot a girl in any category until her actions (or words) tell me what she actually is.

Some girls behave slutty in public, but are prudes in private
Others are saints in public and devils in bed.
Some are provider hunting (way way less than redpill thinks), others are bitchy becuase they are just fed up with the dating market.
Some seem cold, but that's their cultural background.
Others are warm (like brazilians), though not necessarely want to hook up with you.

Those two girls in the OP owed you nothing. Zit.
I know it doesn't seem fair, but it was YOUR job to make them feel good all the way to a possible sexual finale.
Also nothing in your description points to them being pros.
Quite the opposite in fact: they seemed very normal young chicks not knowing how to have a good time.
(young chicks are like that these days, dry and awkard, with almost no social skills, so we have to adapt).
Which is where you can be of value!

Don't care if they eastern or from mars, you treat them all the same, gauge reaction, push it a bit, and decide if it's ok go further.
(once they sat across you guys, it was the perfect time to bust their balls and lightly call them out on the wierdness).
 

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I’ve met my fair share of real prostitutes in the field, and these don’t sound like them. Lots of time wasted they could have spent screening you as a potential client, then if not, moving on.

Were they looking for a simp to provide them with a roof over their head for the night so they could save money on a hotel room? Maybe. Or maybe they’re just a bit awkward and lost interest and were being polite by entertaining the coffee date.

IMO if you’re at a bar crawl and things are going backwards in the interaction, just leave and find someone else. Time is a precious commodity. Screen them out and move on (as an effective prostitute would do as well 😉)
 

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@kevkev39 one thing that I like to do is to NEVER slot a girl in any category until her actions (or words) tell me what she actually is.

Some girls behave slutty in public, but are prudes in private
Others are saints in public and devils in bed.
Some are provider hunting (way way less than redpill thinks), others are bitchy becuase they are just fed up with the dating market.
Some seem cold, but that's their cultural background.
Others are warm (like brazilians), though not necessarely want to hook up with you.

Those two girls in the OP owed you nothing. Zit.
I know it doesn't seem fair, but it was YOUR job to make them feel good all the way to a possible sexual finale.
Also nothing in your description points to them being pros.
Quite the opposite in fact: they seemed very normal young chicks not knowing how to have a good time.
(young chicks are like that these days, dry and awkard, with almost no social skills, so we have to adapt).
Which is where you can be of value!

Don't care if they eastern or from mars, you treat them all the same, gauge reaction, push it a bit, and decide if it's ok go further.
(once they sat across you guys, it was the perfect time to bust their balls and lightly call them out on the wierdness).


I understand all of that. Still though, I maintain that it was just... Strange.

In direct contrast to this, one of my first seductions I just played some music at a park and talked to a couple of girls. (Granted this is like a decade ago) We went to a restaurant nearby and I took one of them in the bathroom and we had our fun.



I’ve met my fair share of real prostitutes in the field, and these don’t sound like them. Lots of time wasted they could have spent screening you as a potential client, then if not, moving on.

Were they looking for a simp to provide them with a roof over their head for the night so they could save money on a hotel room? Maybe. Or maybe they’re just a bit awkward and lost interest and were being polite by entertaining the coffee date.

IMO if you’re at a bar crawl and things are going backwards in the interaction, just leave and find someone else. Time is a precious commodity. Screen them out and move on (as an effective prostitute would do as well 😉)

Can't do that if they've left with you at the -end- of the night lol. (Well, I could just leave empty handed ofc.)
 

POB

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I understand all of that. Still though, I maintain that it was just... Strange.
Maybe...but not enough reason to be pissed.
Ideally you shouldn't even care...less so by doing whole a post with whores on the title.

(Everybody looses time/energy on dead ends, it's just ok and part of the game)
 
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kevkev39

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Maybe...but not enough reason to be pissed.
Ideally you shouldn't even care...less so by doing whole a post with whores on the title.

(Everybody looses time/energy on dead ends, it's just ok and part of the game)

I'm not angry though. Inflammatory, sure. Angry? Not even a little. Any anger you feel coming from these words is strictly coming from your own perception of how most would tell this kind of story.

Hell, I'm already onto the next girls - next country, too because fuuuuck that place lol. (Hello Japan!) I didn't even need to get to the airport before I met a couple of girls, got numbers and made plans. Smart ones too, hopefully things happen. If not, well then it's on to the next I guess.
 
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