What is the better way to condition his behaviour in your opinion?

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Hi everyone, what do you think are the best ways to implement changes in a girl you see? For example in getting fitter and working on the butt, or accepting a treeshome etc.

I usually find forcing things and asking directly not very effective in most cases, in my experience it seems that the best thing is to create a temporal distance for example by sending photo meme videos in chat without letting her pass the message that it is not good but that you like that and when he starts making him reward her, for example when he trains and there are improvements let him know how much you like him and how he is even more beautiful etc.

But it seems to me that he is too passive and not efficient enough, in the sense that he may not pick up the signal or start something if he finds it too difficult or demanding.

maybe even posting your ideal physique picture for a girl in ig stories or writing about how girls get too loose or not working on their overall improvement in a relationship could work?

What is the best approach for you?
 

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Hey DeepShadow

Check out these articles:




Best,
Troy
 

DeepShadow

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Hey DeepShadow

Check out these articles:




Best,
Troy
hey thank you so much for the articles but i had already read them, @Chase 's article on conditioning is about things the girl already does, but it doesn't say about how to approach things you would like the girl to change like going to the gym for a better body , which is what hector says in the article and that more or less seems to do what I do too, while chase's other is about more deeper aspects of personality like the fact that if a girl went with 100 high sex guys drive and she has always been free now you want her to be a faithful wife with many ties, while I ask for things easier at everyone's door that everyone can potentially work on. But I was also asking for other opinions to have an exchange of ideas
 

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@Skills has an article for this matter, I remember reading it on his site, but I don t know which was it. Maybe he could jump in
 

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here it is:

So you see her more like setting an example and waiting for her to ask. Have you ever tried what I do or what do you think? Because if I understand the point correctly, your approach may take even longer waiting for it to come forward
 

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So you see her more like setting an example and waiting for her to ask. Have you ever tried what I do or what do you think? Because if I understand the point correctly, your approach may take even longer waiting for it to come forward

nope i don't wait for her to ask, i teach them... I even go to the gym with them and train them, like a gym trainer...I have transform most of them, if they are not coachable i dump them... I also do the same with sex showing them specific form such glory hole porn with specific actresses that i like dick sucking technique for them to replicate etc...
 

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nope i don't wait for her to ask, i teach them... I even go to the gym with them and train them, like a gym trainer...I have transform most of them, if they are not coachable i dump them... I also do the same with sex showing them specific form such glory hole porn with specific actresses that i like dick sucking technique for them to replicate etc...
"How to implement fixer upper game:

So now we get to the important part. So the girl is invested in you, you let her into your lifestyle which is a typically the lifestyle of most community dudes, which is into reading, fitness, self development etc… In other words you talk the talk but you walk the walk. You do not have to have a 6 pack, but she can see week by week changes in the way you dress, look etc…

She will eventually ask you for guidance, so you give her good advice(which is all the shit that is field tested 100 times by different gurus and or books). So you give her bits and pieces of advice. As she follow some of the advice and see for herself it works (evidence). You will establish credibility and she will seek more advice. Little by little she will see you as a GURU and/or teacher.

Once you reach the Guru/teacher window of opportunity is time to exploit it. So now you are teaching her about nutrition (macros), and you give her a workout routine or book(beach body the creators of p90x have awesome programs like insanity in my experience they do the job fairly well). As she sees changes she will get more hooked and seek more of your wisdom. The beauty about all of this is that as she is becoming hotter she is getting more addicted and more attached to you, since you are a leader, you are improving her life, she feels she owes you and you have changed her life for the better . Now, you and her go to the mall you teach her that every time she gets paid she should reward herself: by buying a new outfit (in some cases as I go shopping for clothes I make it a date, and have them come along and say try this “i think this would look so good on you”) as they try it i sometimes buy it, or have them buy it themselves (if is more than $20 i don’t buy it).

You teach them red pill/secret society/social dynamics/fashion/fitness (most of my girls read my blog for example).

You help them with their hair and color. One of my girls hair was horrible, I identify her head shape as we were out one day I saw a girl with a hot haircut that would look good on her and i told her “that really would look good on you” , I approached the other girl and I complemented her haircut and ask “who is your hairdresser and what is the name and color of your haircut” , she gave me the info. and I went with her to get the haircut a week later.

Very important point is to come across as a positive motivator INSTEAD of a nasty dictator that makes them feel they are not good enough. I took one time a 8 to a 10 but I fucked up by coming across too demanding. I made her stop smoking, workout, dress different, new hair style, new job,new social skills, she looked hot as hell, dressed amazing, but at the end she ended up resenting me and we broke up.

Since then, I have perfected fixer upper game and when they do not follow my advice I do not verbalize it but stay quiet and act a bit disappointed. They get the point after couple of times, they usually make the change themselves.

Fixer upper game works well if you are a seduction coach, the reasoning is that is the same concept and steps that we do with paying clients, the different is you get your payment in the form of sex and investment instead of validation and cash.

Usually you can do the drastic change in as little as 6 months to a year, depending on the girl, my average is less than 3 months."

From this writing on this article it does not seem to me that you act first but that you show first by waiting for him to ask for advice.
Could you tell me then how you do the talks and then when you start teaching her things? You say you can within 3 months get him to make a drastic change so I guess it starts from the first month or so or even earlier after the average hookup of the 3 fucks when he's inside you?
 
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