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I was reading an article on Immanuel Kant, and it made me think about how many people don't actually know what they want. We complain about women like this often but it's often true for men also.
We judge women not only when we meet them, but throughout our relationship with them, and Kant had 3 types of judgements - don't worry, this won't be a long treatise on philosophy, so stay with me:
1) The pleasing: this is sensation-based, good food, good sex, all the things we call 'pleasant.' A nice massage, etc.
2) Aesthetically beautiful: Since aesthetic judgments are not about the object, they are not objective. Rather, they are about the subject, and thus subjective judgments. However, this does not mean that aesthetic judgments are relative to the individual...Another way Kant speaks of the beautiful is as “subjectively universal.”
Versus that which is pleasant is easily claimed as pleasant for me and only me (I ate the delicious food). We appreciate looking at beautiful women even if we're not interacting with them, even if they're not 'good' people.
3) The 'good.'
Why did I write all this? Because I think it can help us think through what kind of woman we're looking for. If you're chasing after woman #1 - hot sex ONS, but you really wanted woman #3, you're not going to be happy. Some call this 'The Player's Journey.'
Or you greatly desired the most gorgeous woman in your school....and you got her, a stunning bikini model! But you're not happy with her, and it drives you [and her] crazy. Maybe because the sex is bad, she has low libido, cuts you down to 1x a month, etc.
To be happier, we actually have to match up our physical desires and our goals. Kant was pointing out [among many other things] that we confuse the pleasant with the good. The right answer is the one that's right for you, but you have to be honest with yourself. If you say, 'Oh, I just want that good woman in #3 who bears my children,' but she gets overweight and doesn't do what you want in bed, will you really be happy for the rest of your life? Only you can answer that.
I started out thinking I wanted women #2, then #3, then back to #2, before realizing I needed #1 [great sex she don't need to cook] and #2, and didn't want to settle down and have kids. New PUAs are all about hoping they get #1, maybe don't care a bit if she's only a 5 [or lower.]
Final tl/dr; everyone's Venn diagram of 1-2-3 is going to be different. If you're not happy with your life/women figure out where you want those intersections to be, because none of us will end up with the hottest woman on earth, who is the best bang ever, who is also the best mom and wife. And if you're banging girls who you thought wanted #1 from you, but they really are seeking #3, you'll be mystified why you can't keep a girlfriend.
I promise not to write anything in the future about Kant.
We judge women not only when we meet them, but throughout our relationship with them, and Kant had 3 types of judgements - don't worry, this won't be a long treatise on philosophy, so stay with me:
1) The pleasing: this is sensation-based, good food, good sex, all the things we call 'pleasant.' A nice massage, etc.
2) Aesthetically beautiful: Since aesthetic judgments are not about the object, they are not objective. Rather, they are about the subject, and thus subjective judgments. However, this does not mean that aesthetic judgments are relative to the individual...Another way Kant speaks of the beautiful is as “subjectively universal.”
Versus that which is pleasant is easily claimed as pleasant for me and only me (I ate the delicious food). We appreciate looking at beautiful women even if we're not interacting with them, even if they're not 'good' people.
3) The 'good.'
- Pleasure through reason: The good is what pleases us through the mere concept of it, as determined by reason.
- Requires a concept: To judge something as "good," you must know what kind of object it ought to be, meaning you need a concept of its purpose or function.
- "Good for" vs. "good in itself": Goodness can be either useful (good for a purpose) or good in itself (an end in itself).
- Involves interest: Because it is tied to a concept and purpose, judging something as "good" involves having an interest in it.
Why did I write all this? Because I think it can help us think through what kind of woman we're looking for. If you're chasing after woman #1 - hot sex ONS, but you really wanted woman #3, you're not going to be happy. Some call this 'The Player's Journey.'
Or you greatly desired the most gorgeous woman in your school....and you got her, a stunning bikini model! But you're not happy with her, and it drives you [and her] crazy. Maybe because the sex is bad, she has low libido, cuts you down to 1x a month, etc.
To be happier, we actually have to match up our physical desires and our goals. Kant was pointing out [among many other things] that we confuse the pleasant with the good. The right answer is the one that's right for you, but you have to be honest with yourself. If you say, 'Oh, I just want that good woman in #3 who bears my children,' but she gets overweight and doesn't do what you want in bed, will you really be happy for the rest of your life? Only you can answer that.
I started out thinking I wanted women #2, then #3, then back to #2, before realizing I needed #1 [great sex she don't need to cook] and #2, and didn't want to settle down and have kids. New PUAs are all about hoping they get #1, maybe don't care a bit if she's only a 5 [or lower.]
Final tl/dr; everyone's Venn diagram of 1-2-3 is going to be different. If you're not happy with your life/women figure out where you want those intersections to be, because none of us will end up with the hottest woman on earth, who is the best bang ever, who is also the best mom and wife. And if you're banging girls who you thought wanted #1 from you, but they really are seeking #3, you'll be mystified why you can't keep a girlfriend.
I promise not to write anything in the future about Kant.
