Socializing Women state/mood changes

[Skills]

I always knew naturally about state changes but years ago @Teevster made a response to some dude he was helping i think in nexasf, were he made it more like the why? I posted in my blog, but he was talking about a club and is years ago... So i will make an updated version and is more broadly no only clubs, cause the subject comes up periodically (i like linking stuff so i don't have to explain from 0) so if it comes up i will link here....

Ok so a state change is just a feel or vibe or mood change.- Men, women, animals, we all experience this is biological in nature.... Here is teevester definition:

Many guys tends to forget about the issue but it occurs to us all! I will here explain what i am talking about and then discuss how to avoid it. Then I will come up with some techniques that you can use to handle the problems that occurs due to a state change. What is a state change? You have probably been to a club once, approached a few women, been all over the place and suddenly, your state drops. You become kind of lazy, bored, tired, not in mood, not feeling like it, nothing to say, no balls… We have all been there. Then you push yourself and you reach back to the old good state again. Guess what? women are similar when it comes to state, in fact, they change states even fast than we men do! There states changes a lot, especially in clubs where there is a lot of things that happens, which can affect there state. Not talking about alcohol, which has a huge impact on someones states.


So, the main issue here is that after having had a good interaction with a women, it can happen that later on that night when you reopen, your woman can turn completely cold, not attracted, not horny, not cool… in fact her state has changed. Nothing wrong with you! it is just her state that has changed. The factors could have been many: other girls, other men, environment, loud music, lightening, alcohol, hormones, periods, the fact that it is getting late… and the list goes on. So, unless she turned cold right away after you have done a certain action that she doesn’t like, which is then probably your fault and you should start doing some damage control. However, if it just happens with the time, or after her being away from you for a few minutes… it is indeed not your fault. The problem is that men believes that they are the cause of her bad state, and since they had a really good vibe with the girl earlier on, they tend to get really needy in order to get the girl back into a hot state which she was in previously. This is dangerous as the more you try to get her back into a hot state, the more she will sense your neediness, the more she is going to turn cold! So watch out for this. If a woman turns cold at the club after having had a really good conversation with you, do not get needy to get her back into that “hot state”.

So for example the best example when it happens to men is when you put all this effort and sometimes get onitis, bang a girl, bust a nut and you are like "Get me the fuck out of here, all this work for this" we call it post nut clarity this is one of the best explanation of a state change in men...

or you are not hungry and is time to eat and you are like "i am not hungry" "10 minutes later you are hungry as fuck".... Or you don't feel like going to a club and then you go to the club you are talking to all these girls and then you are "I am happy i came out" and vice versa...

Women have more state and mood changes than men do, they get the state changes on steroids, and on top of that they get ASD (for me anti slut defense as i have been saying for years, is not women think "i ain't having sex cause he will think i am easy and slut", for me asd is resistance to continue towards a sexual interactions and has nothing to do with being judge easy or slut, just resistance or objection for whatever reason)...

So some example on constant state changes in different game styles:

Online State change: You have a women really interested in you to all of a sudden, take long to respond, ghost or block.- there are ways to avoid this stuff specially if you follow my online structure is design to MINIMAZE this effect... (there is not bullet proof way)

texting State change: You have a girl texting enthusiastically, to change the text vibe, or one word answer, or taking longer than expected to text back or she blocks you out of the blue.... The way to minimize this is to maintain momentum...

Day game State Change: This one in my opinion will be the second worst for state changes(dance floor number 1), you can minimize this with insta dates or sdl but it will be very difficult for most, the day gamers will have it the worst, I think maintaining some type of momentum in texting can help...I don't even believe strong interaction enough...Day gamers also need to be better at texting than any other game style due to this reason and even then not enough...

Dance foor game State change: Dance floor game is the worst for state changes, cause she will be all over you on the dance floor, and off the dance floor you are dealing with a totally different girl(state crash), you can minimaze this doing bubbles and off dance very contained and stayed in set and de escalated while not getting needy... In isolation i would start gaming from 0, like what happened in the dance floor did not count.... Ideally you want to start not in the dance floor and move to dance floor (for escalation, however that has never been my game), i do the opposite... Dance floor is seducing in the actual dance floor (open, hook, compliance, micro escalation and arousal) ... It got to the point that when i did not know how to run a date back in the days (the seduction material on running dates was total shit), i had to just meet them a second time on the club/dance floor to replicate the original interaction a second time... it was that bad the girl on dance floor than off dance floor, state change on steroids... Now that i learned how to run a date different story...

Night game State change.- in the whole nightgame you will have bunch of state changes, she will be a different girl alone, vs with her friends, vs when you pull to your car vs when you pull to your apartment.... Tons of ways to minimize this, but i will talk about the general principle farther ahead on what applies here...

post fuck State change:- I did a post on this, you will not really have a girl on rotation or means shit till you have fucked her at least 2 times (really good seducers), 3 times most people and even good seducers in general and now a days to be honest is not like when i wrote the original post, sometimes even that not enough with some gen z specially....

I will not give you a chuckie cutter do this do that, But the best advise i can give on state change etc... Specially in clubs, but in all games in general, it is to apply the actual only thing red pillers get right from break ups... One of the only good actual legit things that i learned from red pilller (Rollo Tomassi) is what we call emotional capital....

emotional capital is that a normie dude says, "i been with this girl 5 years, we have 3 kids, we have been through a lot together, i put her through college, i pay for her moms funeral, i did this and that and that and this" so in his head he think is the same as putting 2 k every month on a 401, crypto or investment account, and now he has more funds or in a property more equity since he pay down the mortgage..... No for women once the reach breaking point none of that shit matters, you are nothing, you are someone she loved once, now you are nobody, in some cases she hates you more than her worst enemy (cause she feels she wasted her time with you)....

skills what does this has to do with state changes? when you have a good interactions, online, texting, day game, night game etc... you think since you got good interaction you somehow made progress and you have her invested and emotional capital (yes we all get compliance and investment) but again most of the time, you got nothing till you have bang couple of times, most guys tend to get over confident or over reach or get needy or get LAZY... you can not rely in past progress even if it was 10 minutes ago due to state changes, you always have to be calibrating, containing, relaxing, push pulling, doing take aways, moving the interaction forward, not getting needy, getting compliance at all points of interaction and moving towards dick in pussy.... But you can not rely on what happens minutes ago... Is what have you done for me lately mantra to avoid state changes... Also good game with reps and optimal strategies based on the situation can help or work with you on state changes...

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