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I think he is saying the most impressive in terms of results is spike and then you.
But that spike's game is meh, so most impressive in terms of skill is you.
But that spike's game is meh, so most impressive in terms of skill is you.
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Good translation
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Lol I just have to post this Velasco quote from 2019.... answering "what makes someone advanced?"
Seems he changed philosophies to measuring by end result only, which is fair, but is the difference between "dick in pussy" vs "dick in that pussy".
So I guess I will conclude it's just important to know what your own goals are. This was step 1 in Chase's book, and I think it was a big focus of Vin DiCarlo's. Personally I think screening game is cool for loud, packed venues, but will do you a disservice if looking for something specific, and very incomplete for that "anytime anywhere" ability.
For example, if you have a specific rare type like red head, not TOO pale, great skin, captivating facially, busty, regular gym goer into nutrition, some sort of artistic ability, enjoys nature, a small-to-medium element of counterculture interest, an advanced education degree, mentally healthy, wants children, parents still married, grew up with some religious influence but is mentally free of its dogma, came from a large family with experience home cooking on holidays, meshes with your personality, etc. Many girls out there might fit this, but I think your game plan needs to be designed for high odds with the particular target when you come across her, not just high odds for either her or whatever equally hot alternative.
Now on to step 1... AA drills.
Seems he changed philosophies to measuring by end result only, which is fair, but is the difference between "dick in pussy" vs "dick in that pussy".
So I guess I will conclude it's just important to know what your own goals are. This was step 1 in Chase's book, and I think it was a big focus of Vin DiCarlo's. Personally I think screening game is cool for loud, packed venues, but will do you a disservice if looking for something specific, and very incomplete for that "anytime anywhere" ability.
For example, if you have a specific rare type like red head, not TOO pale, great skin, captivating facially, busty, regular gym goer into nutrition, some sort of artistic ability, enjoys nature, a small-to-medium element of counterculture interest, an advanced education degree, mentally healthy, wants children, parents still married, grew up with some religious influence but is mentally free of its dogma, came from a large family with experience home cooking on holidays, meshes with your personality, etc. Many girls out there might fit this, but I think your game plan needs to be designed for high odds with the particular target when you come across her, not just high odds for either her or whatever equally hot alternative.
Now on to step 1... AA drills.
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Brah! facepalm!
No it will not you don't get it.... Even though i explained it to you a million times, and you have me here defending that dude, cause you i know how screening actually works...
so if you are looking for a specific girl. specific skin. specific hairstyle. specific personality. specifically her parents are still married.....then will you ignore the girls you find hot?
- oh no she doesn't have red hair. out!
-oh no her eyes are not green. out!
- oh no she doesn't have the specific hairstyle i'm looking for. out!
-oh no her parents got divorced. will not fuck!
EVERYONE likes many different types of girls...
when ONE of those types of girls is not giving you IOIs or is not interested but ANOTHER ONE of those types of girls (because we have multiple types of girls we like. no just only one specific type) is giving you IOIs. then you bang a girl that is your type
i know rocket science genius....
^ yes please... and less none sense and going in circles... you look like an idiot making velasco look like Einstein...
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Opposite issue actually... If you screen for immediate sexual interest, you may quickly screen her out when you did not have to. The game plan may get you another girl similar in type, but may not have the other elements of quality you seek in a LTR.
If she is out for a friend's bday and has a banging figure, she may receive unwanted attention and put up a shield. Maybe the better game plan is indirect instead of instantly ramping sexual tension.
You will not know of these non physical qualities until spending more time with her, which is all the more reason to play higher odds with each individual set, even if you are accepting lower odds for getting yourself laid by anyone of your physical type that evening.
This is mystery 101 to get her specifically, not to get laid by whoever. Different goal. It's the point of "solid game" - to seduce the particular target, not to take home either her, or that other one over there, or that third one over there.
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Wrong:
Wm, coby, gll, mode one, scotty..... Do day game (though wm, can do night and day game) but he does not do night game any longer...
I can do screening in day game, does have to be a loud night game...
what you think is irrelevant, since:
- you don't nor have any done screening.
- you have not field tested screening cold approach (since you actually do screening online genius)
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Facepalm! no you don't screen her out, if she is not a lay on that night you exchange contact Eistein and lay her later same night or another time....
For fuck sake...
and?? what is the better game plan? you don't get it, you have to open and earn the group or not get cock block by group regardless of game style... Again the screener will not devote a lot of amount if the set is not going anywhere, or if he does not think the lay is unlikely to happen...
screening can be indirect, i am indirect (situational mainly)... Screening has nothing to do with direct or indirect.... Has to do with looking for dtf and not wasting time on women that are not dtf...
yes you will, this has nothing to do with screening..
Mystery is screening for a Girlfriend.... always has dude is a romantic... even today...
screening are looking for fast dick in pussy....
^ again this game can not really be done like it was meant to be now a days (with consistency) it when mainly online...It can be done but is not the same as how it used to be...
If you have a question ask? you have never done it, so you are just talking none sense...
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Exactly... Different goal, different game plan
Higher odds of p in any v
Vs. Higher odds of p in specific v
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how that has work out for him???
Dude is horrible at finding and keeping girlfriends no offense(factual).... And the way he does it is retarded to be honest, but go ahead do what he does... good luck with your future girlfriend..
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Francis one final thing because you don't understand what dtf is since just like most of the forum which is bizard since teevester (created skillseducer) has some weird closet maddona whore complex, it has always been like that since i came from nextasf but has gotten better:
- the biggest whore/slut in the universe will not fuck you if she is not dtf
- the virgin with 0 sexual experience (specially gen z) will fuck you if she is dtf
- i bang girls that were dtf that made amazing excellent girlfriends... and girls that made me wait and were mediocre girlfriends... here:
- the biggest whore/slut in the universe will not fuck you if she is not dtf
- the virgin with 0 sexual experience (specially gen z) will fuck you if she is dtf
- i bang girls that were dtf that made amazing excellent girlfriends... and girls that made me wait and were mediocre girlfriends... here:
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Retention is not the point... He does not even sell products on his comfort material. It is a discussion about the early game pickup.
Screening by definition involves some moving on. Taking numbers at night is low odds.
In Teevster's article about brushing past the attention seeking girl to use the mirror, imagine if he had instead gone up with a sexual handclasp milking the intro and started microescalating tension. He may have gotten rejected and had to move on from her. Lower odds with her specifically. Hypothetically if this girl was an ideal LTR match, he never would have known.
It does not even have to be about LTR and is not about Madonna whore or DTF or whatever. It is about highest odds with the particular woman of interest.
@Teevster am I missing something? Skills is getting frustrated with me which means I may be misunderstanding something he is saying that is not clicking. It seems so simple to me. Screening by definition screens some girls out instead of strategically flipping her interest level. Early physical escalation can be met with resistance. Instead of using it to filter, isn't that why you use sex talk that does not include telegraphing direct interest?
Whole point of negs etc... Disqualifying self as a suitor instead of telegraphing interest
Screening by definition involves some moving on. Taking numbers at night is low odds.
In Teevster's article about brushing past the attention seeking girl to use the mirror, imagine if he had instead gone up with a sexual handclasp milking the intro and started microescalating tension. He may have gotten rejected and had to move on from her. Lower odds with her specifically. Hypothetically if this girl was an ideal LTR match, he never would have known.
It does not even have to be about LTR and is not about Madonna whore or DTF or whatever. It is about highest odds with the particular woman of interest.
@Teevster am I missing something? Skills is getting frustrated with me which means I may be misunderstanding something he is saying that is not clicking. It seems so simple to me. Screening by definition screens some girls out instead of strategically flipping her interest level. Early physical escalation can be met with resistance. Instead of using it to filter, isn't that why you use sex talk that does not include telegraphing direct interest?
Whole point of negs etc... Disqualifying self as a suitor instead of telegraphing interest
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teevester doesn't do screening? why don't you ask locario what he thinks about teevester second gen, when locario does not do second gen, einstein...
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Screening is not expending a lot of time with sets that are not dtf for that night, if so you would get number and exchange info and move to a girl that is dtf.... Staying in a set were the girl is not dtf and expending it with a girl that you determine after certain amount of time is not dtf to give it up for a girl that you can find that is the dtf, is super low odds... context brother...
facepalm! he hoover (smart strategy), if he would have done the other stuff would have been uncalibrated for the situation, nothing to do with screening... He could know if after the lay he keep her as a fb brother...
Correct but there are many different ways and game styles to go for particular women of interest...
I am not frustrated i am explaining you my point of view... Not all screeners are neo direct brother...
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who wrote this:
when it is. You assumed if me or velasco walk away from a girl that is not dtf or not interested and go to a girl that is dft and interested that the girl that is dtf and interested will not have LTR quality traits. while the girl that was not dtf will have LTR quality traits.
Who wrote this:
when it is. You assumed if me or velasco walk away from a girl that is not dtf or not interested and go to a girl that is dft and interested that the girl that is dtf and interested will not have LTR quality traits. while the girl that was not dtf will have LTR quality traits.
Who wrote this:
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I thought you said locario bastardizes screening game. I am not interested in his opinion. I am interested in your opinion and teevster's since he winged with sleazy and understands all game. So he can maybe see things in your responses I am not understanding, or has more to add. It is not about the people here, it's the strategies.
If "Screening game" is cutting losses after a certain amount of non compliance or bad logistics, you can do that in Mystery method too. PS when I talk about Mystery method I mean either traditional or with sexual frames like Karea and Captain Jack.
MM has kino escalation compliance testing too, just like physical game. He might use IOD's instead of staying non reactive to failed tests, but whatever.
He also games the room and can feel out all potential targets, since it is part of the full ideal game plan to merge sets. When he has a high value target he goes full canned material but also will use the jealousy plotline strategy with a pivot.
Isn't it just a direct vs indirect discussion? If you go 60 style and introduce tension (telegraphing intent) before an IOI, isn't that non-verbal direct game? And if she doesn't bite, at a certain point you are rejected.
Vs. Indirect wait for IOI before showing interest. Sex talk without physically escalating too early, etc. Vs. 60 escalation is in the early game, regardless of IOI. Introduces risk.
Indirect seems higher odds per specific target. It has nothing to do with any relationship between DTF and LTR traits. It is just about higher odds in early game so you have the freedom of choice to find out.
If "Screening game" is cutting losses after a certain amount of non compliance or bad logistics, you can do that in Mystery method too. PS when I talk about Mystery method I mean either traditional or with sexual frames like Karea and Captain Jack.
MM has kino escalation compliance testing too, just like physical game. He might use IOD's instead of staying non reactive to failed tests, but whatever.
He also games the room and can feel out all potential targets, since it is part of the full ideal game plan to merge sets. When he has a high value target he goes full canned material but also will use the jealousy plotline strategy with a pivot.
Isn't it just a direct vs indirect discussion? If you go 60 style and introduce tension (telegraphing intent) before an IOI, isn't that non-verbal direct game? And if she doesn't bite, at a certain point you are rejected.
Vs. Indirect wait for IOI before showing interest. Sex talk without physically escalating too early, etc. Vs. 60 escalation is in the early game, regardless of IOI. Introduces risk.
Indirect seems higher odds per specific target. It has nothing to do with any relationship between DTF and LTR traits. It is just about higher odds in early game so you have the freedom of choice to find out.
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I was obviously trolling you facepalm
I will explain to you like a baby, i am not going in circles i made 50 articles, and videos... not going in circles:
you are saying Vs. Indirect wait for IOI before showing interest. Sex talk without physically escalating too early, etc. Vs. 60 escalation is in the early game, regardless of IOI. Introduces risk. Indirect seems higher odds per specific target. It has nothing to do with any relationship between DTF and LTR traits. It is just about higher odds in early game so you have the freedom of choice to find out. there is no risk in either strategy.
If you wait for IOI (which is ironically passive game) before you show interest. (WHICH is what Velasco do when he hover leaning against the bar or walking past people and see which girls are showing interest) and me with dancing. then you find out which girls (and you pick the best looking of all of them) you can reward by showing interest in return.
if i go in and introduce tension 60 style. then i find out if she was interested before i introduced tension. because introducing tension in itself is me returning interest to a girl who already showed interest (assumed attraction). if there was no attraction present. then you find out.
^ brother read 60 or any basic book written by a proficient screener (they are all outdated though) but 60 would be the better one...on the basic...
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So act on approach invitations... high odds to only engage with girls who have interest and make it known. Screen out the girls who may be interested and don't make it known, or those not interested and could be, or those in conversation not aware of you. What if the girl of interest is one of these?
Does screening game open without approach invitations? If so, here is 60 Years of Challenge:
1. Approach
-catch her face first
-introduce self with seductive handshake
2. Seduce
-seductively ask about her (which is showing interest in her before she shows interest in you)
-sexual vibe, seductive eye contact, arms or legs touching
-do not break rapport
3. Calibrate
-check her reaction to silent tension
-leave or try again later
4. Escalate
-caress her hand
-kiss
-unreactive to resistance
5. Close
-verbalize intent and pull
-no convincing (go silent, ask again later)
@Skills you go indirect then?
The above seems too direct for high odds.
Does screening game open without approach invitations? If so, here is 60 Years of Challenge:
1. Approach
-catch her face first
-introduce self with seductive handshake
2. Seduce
-seductively ask about her (which is showing interest in her before she shows interest in you)
-sexual vibe, seductive eye contact, arms or legs touching
-do not break rapport
3. Calibrate
-check her reaction to silent tension
-leave or try again later
4. Escalate
-caress her hand
-kiss
-unreactive to resistance
5. Close
-verbalize intent and pull
-no convincing (go silent, ask again later)
@Skills you go indirect then?
The above seems too direct for high odds.
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not always a lot of gen z, don't give approach invites and a lot of women don't give approach invites and they are still game.... The signs don't have to be overt... For example if i open, during the opening i can buy time, and get the vibe and feel for the girl.... Like an overextension, or unnatural actions/something out of character...
Of course... As I said a lot gen z and women in general don't give ais now a days and they are still game..
^ that is his style, sometimes i milk the intro. but have not done it in years....
that is 60 style of screening, i use different approaches, again i don't do this style of game any longer, velasco and sometimes thominho are doing it more... i do it at times...
But i was just clarifying the style of game....