Ιnsanity about the game?

[r3volv3r]

Hello, this is my first post.. I am glad that finally I start posting, all these staff looked very strange for me at the beginning but I get the idea and start working on it.

I think I am at the other side of where I should be. Before I start reading all this stuff I had no game and speak to women, my friends and generaly everyone like human beings and I was able to make deep connection and understand their problems and worries. To be honest I overdo it and it was draging me down emotionally too much.

After I start to improve my self with women I think I am excactly on the other side. I can't listen to a women or really understand what they say, I see every women as part of the game, I think what to say, how to act to "win". Sometimes when I dont like a girl I don't treat her good at all.

I am ashamed to say this but I even judge my friends and people according to their game.

This is definitely not the way I want to be or used to.

I really love to meet new people and share stories. When I meet a women I am only thinking how to go to bed with her, but I want to be able to just to know her and have an emotional connection. I think I can't appreciate the human part of people.

It's like not having a soul

I don't know if all these sounds too strange.. I would like to hear an opinion from someone...

Thank you

 

[Thedoctor]

r3volv3r,

Most people that have undergone any type of self-improvement seem to go through some degree of this. Guys get better "game" and often start to think less of people that don't. People that start going to the gym and treating their bodies as temples start to look down on those that don't. People that are ambitious in their careers and want to climb the corporate ladder all the way to the top think of those that don't as inferior.

There's a good and a bad side to this. On one hand, sometimes it's nice to clear your life of a little dead weight that does nothing other than bring you down. Long ago, I stopped keeping those in my life who want to do nothing than complain. The flip side of this is you start to gain a huge ego and, in this particular case, you find yourself feeling superior to anyone that doesn't have "game." The truth is people have different interests and goals. Everything from:

-getting promoted and focusing on their career
-getting healthier
-winning at a particular sport - maybe even an Olympic medal
-discovering the Quantum Theory of Gravity
-inventing a more efficient engine
-finding a solution to Global Warming - or completely disproving it if you don't believe in its existence

The list goes on. The one thing that everyone on this list has in common is that they all have a goal they are pursuing. That's what you need to focus on if you want to rid yourself of the slightly poisonous mindset that has developed. There are always those that have no goals and just want everything handed to them. Like I said before, these are the types I try to avoid having in my life. But there's not much point in thinking less of these types cause no real good comes of it.

Hope this helps a bit,

-John

 

[r3volv3r]

John, thank you very much it really really helped me.

I hate when I look down anyone and anything... I don't think of my self as something special, but I like me, a lot.

I will try to get into others shoes and understand them better and appreciate them for what they do, It's the most beautifull thing.


Wish you the best!

 

[Drck]

There is a reason why you are reading seduction material. Most likely you are a great guy, carrying, friendly, no problem with making connection with people and so on. Everything is good - except you can't get girl that you want, perhaps you were even rejected and you have no clue why...

So you start looking around and find some seduction stuff. Some makes sense, but lots of stuff is unnatural, there is no logic to it. You were raised thinking that you have to take care of that girl, be nice to her, help her, have feelings for her, keep calling and texting her, be her best friend; you believe that she is this nice and innocent girl - and you can't get laid, maybe you can't even get her to go for one or two dates...

And now you read that you should be more of an asshole, don't really care too much about her, don't buy anything for her, and definitely don't be her friend - and that is supposed to be something like a Magic Gate, once you go through it you'll get the hottest girls out there... What???

That is a story of many guys out there. Because some of the seduction stuff appears to be 180 degrees in reverse, many guys start doing the exact opposite - they turn 180 degrees in reverse. They become assholes, they don't treat girls well, perhaps they start seeing and treating girls as just sluts... And the Gate opens, suddenly those simple skills are working, being an asshole and not carrying about that girl is magically working. It is working despite everything you knew about girls before...

How could it be? But that is not the whole story. Seduction is not only black or white, either unsuccessful Nice Guy or successful bad-ass Asshole. Seduction is just a skill. You can just add some of that skill to your arsenal, and you can still be that guy like before, the guy who cares, who connects, guy who appreciates people for what they are... With the right tools, you can even be a very successful Nice Guy...

It is as if you were a captain of a boat and realized that your boat is drifting too much to the West, to the land of Niceness-ness. The current is just too strong and if you don't do anything you will just wreck the boat against steep rocks. So you have to turn the rudder 180 degrees and head towards East, towards the land of Asshole-ness. But you don't really have to keep going towards East for too long, after you get back to your original trace you can just turn the rudder 90 degrees and go towards North, direction that you wanted at first place...

Said differently, if you can dominate her and nail her within 3 dates, you can be as much as of a Nice Guy as you want...

 

[r3volv3r]

Drck, I appreciate the time to read and answer my post!

What you said is very helpful for me. I think I am at this phase with the What??? and trying to adjust my personality.

It really blows your mind all this stuff.




Thank you very much!!