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2 questions for advanced guys: Hail Mary text & quick sex

PinotNoir

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1) When a girl hasn't texted back to me in a few weeks or I know it's going downhill, I'll send a Hail Mary text (or maybe Alamo or Kamikaze text is better phrase?). These are girls that I met from cold approach and have no ties to my social circle. I'll just send something like, "hmmm, well, maybe I can come over and massage you for a bit?" or something else suggestive. Surprisingly, this has worked once, but that's the only time. When you know a girl is going south, do you just delete her contact information? For me, I send this last text, and if then no response (or bad response), then I delete. Think I should cut this out? I'm just curious if any other guys do this. If I'm going to delete her contact information anyway, is it find to just send this Hail Mary text anyway? I mean I'm going to delete her with or without sending this last text, so why not try, right?

2) Wonder if I'm out and about during the day and I see a hot girl and I get pretty horny, is it fine to suggest going back to her place quickly in the interaction? I was out running today, and I saw this girl with huge boobs jogging. I was kind of turned on, so I went up and talked with her (had boyfriend). But, I'm curious, if she was single, could I immediately just suggest, "How about we go cool off at your place with some water?" Or is that way too forward and don't think a girl would ever bite? How do you know during the interaction if a girl will be up for having sex with a stranger within just a few minutes of conversation during day game?
 

PrettyDecent

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PN,

This Hail Mary text - that's interesting stuff. How'd that encounter go with the gal who bit? You go straight to sex after arriving, or was it still a date-type deal? Anyway, think you'll dig this post by Chase - Check-In Text If You Haven't Texted in a While.

For your second question: definitely! If you strike the right voice tone, and the girl's clearly interested, you've got the green light. It's just like any other compliance request (a big one, still, but you get away with that when the girl is very attracted). What you'd keep an eye for is ego depletion: Ego Depletion (and Keeping Women Around).

Would make for an entertaining Field-Report in any scenario ;)

~Nick
 

Franco

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PN,

1) When a girl hasn't texted back to me in a few weeks or I know it's going downhill, I'll send a Hail Mary text (or maybe Alamo or Kamikaze text is better phrase?). These are girls that I met from cold approach and have no ties to my social circle. I'll just send something like, "hmmm, well, maybe I can come over and massage you for a bit?" or something else suggestive. Surprisingly, this has worked once, but that's the only time. When you know a girl is going south, do you just delete her contact information? For me, I send this last text, and if then no response (or bad response), then I delete. Think I should cut this out? I'm just curious if any other guys do this. If I'm going to delete her contact information anyway, is it find to just send this Hail Mary text anyway? I mean I'm going to delete her with or without sending this last text, so why not try, right?

I'm actually not a fan of the Hail Mary text myself. Girls gets lots of texts all the time... and they get LOTS of Hail Mary texts too. They can spot them from a mile away. And some just continue to send Hail Mary after Hail Mary at a girl, so when a girl sees texts like that, she gets more worried about the guy being somewhat of a "text stalker" than a "sexy guy she passed up." That being said, I know some guys have used it to some success, but I find it better to just go completely cold turkey on a girl and bank on a chance that SHE will wonder why you DIDN'T keep texting her, and then she'll get curious and text YOU instead. I've had much more success with this happening and leading to a date rather than the Hail Mary texts.

Based on my response, as far as girls' contact information, I pretty much leave every girl in my contacts (which is easy to do these days with the amount of memory smart phones have). It also helps to label the girls with a tag such as where you met them (i.e. Jane (Shoe Store), Ashley (Park), etc.). This way, if girls randomly do send me their own form of a "hey, where'd you go?" type of check-in text, I already know exactly which girl it was because I labeled it as such as to remind me. Now, of course, you don't want to put this label on their contact RIGHT when they're watching you add their number, but you can do it when you get home for the day to make sure you recognize the number if she were to text you in the future after things seemed to not work out.

2) Wonder if I'm out and about during the day and I see a hot girl and I get pretty horny, is it fine to suggest going back to her place quickly in the interaction? I was out running today, and I saw this girl with huge boobs jogging. I was kind of turned on, so I went up and talked with her (had boyfriend). But, I'm curious, if she was single, could I immediately just suggest, "How about we go cool off at your place with some water?" Or is that way too forward and don't think a girl would ever bite? How do you know during the interaction if a girl will be up for having sex with a stranger within just a few minutes of conversation during day game?

Just about anything can work these days if you pull it off right and the circumstances are there! So instead, the question should be: what approach gives me the highest percentage chance that I'll sleep with this girl? I imagine trying to pull her back to her place when you just met her and she's busy (on her run) might be somewhat low given the amount of investment you are trying to get from her in such a short period of time. Even with that type of situation, I would think getting a number quickly or setting up a date for later in the day (possibly after her jog) would have a much higher chance of being successful. So, it's not really a matter of whether or not it works... and if you want to try it, I think there's definitely a possibility it can work! But you should keep in mind what the chances of it working are versus what options you have available. If you're testing yourself to see if you can only get same-day lays, then maybe this is a route you want to take so that you cantry to see how far you can push it in your favor. =)

- Franco
 

trashKENNUT

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PN,

NO "HAIL MARY TEXT". HAha

Girls occasionally tell me that they get that text all the time (Franco is CORRECT!). PrettyDecent actually suggested something which i did. and it's good.

Zac
 
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Thedoctor

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Franco said:
I'm actually not a fan of the Hail Mary text myself. Girls gets lots of texts all the time... and they get LOTS of Hail Mary texts too. They can spot them from a mile away. And some just continue to send Hail Mary after Hail Mary at a girl, so when a girl sees texts like that, she gets more worried about the guy being somewhat of a "text stalker" than a "sexy guy she passed up."

Just wanted to add that this helps tremendously if you end up meeting the girl randomly again, which has happened to me on occasion. She'll remember which guys send these and which ones don't.

-John
 

PinotNoir

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Thanks guys, that's what I wanted to hear about, and it makes sense. (I don't really feel like my IRL friend's answers to my questions are credible haha.) It does seem too "desperate" and better to just end it in a cool, sauve way by living your life and forgetting about it. The only reason I usually delete numbers is so that it prevents me from sending them anymore texts/etc., so I may keep doing that. I'll definitely drop the Hail Mary text though.

PrettyDecent, it wasn't a true "success." Long story short, I met her in person on cold approach during the day, but she was only in town 1 day touring with friends so no insta-date. Well, she lives several states away, so we texted back and forth a bit. Then after a few days of radio silence and me knowing that nothing is going to happen, I sent something like, "my tongue is really dry and thick right now, wish I had something to make it wet" haha. She replied back in kind. Then after some more sexual back and forth, I called her, and we had phone sex (no trading of pics, just voice). I think it only worked this once because of the distance and not true sex, so it was easier for her to give into her sexual urges. Nothing to really write home about :\, but still enjoyable.

As far as the quick sex, yes, that's true. It would have been pretty difficult to pull. I guess I'll only try if it if I'm really horny, and I don't care if me and the girl go anywhere. Still, I guess it's like strategy in chess. Sometimes it's best to go for the date and end up with sex that way, instead of blowing it on the first approach.... Just need more experience here on reading girls, compliance, and pulling fast I imagine.
 
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