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I was out with someone recently who commented on some dude, saying the guy was really good-looking. And I was like, "Huh? Who pays attention to that stuff...? There are hot women here! Why would you be looking at a dude?"

It made me realize that the guys who talk about male looks a lot probably also focus on male looks a lot / look for good-lookin' dudes when they go outside the house.

Ran a poll on X, and it seems while the majority are with me, in that we don't really notice or care what other dudes out and about look like, a fifth of men are busily checking out the competition:

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Different psychologies!
 

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It made me realize that the guys who talk about male looks a lot probably also focus on male looks a lot / look for good-lookin' dudes when they go outside the house.
ok Chase I will take the bait.

I made an entire post about this and nowhere did I mention looking at other dudes

 

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you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

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I was out with someone recently who commented on some dude, saying the guy was really good-looking. And I was like, "Huh? Who pays attention to that stuff...? There are hot women here! Why would you be looking at a dude?"

It made me realize that the guys who talk about male looks a lot probably also focus on male looks a lot / look for good-lookin' dudes when they go outside the house.

Ran a poll on X, and it seems while the majority are with me, in that we don't really notice or care what other dudes out and about look like, a fifth of men are busily checking out the competition:

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Different psychologies!

So from the poll

80% of men are straight
4% are gay
16% are Bi-sexual

Those numbers don't look to strange to me and make a lot of sense

Chase I have a question though. Why are you so concerned with men that are very looks focused?

I understand that you're not a fan of that outlook but isn't your poll actually promising?

80% of your audience aligns with your views so why so focused on the 20% that don't agree with you?

Plus if 20% of the guys are scoping out the competition does that also mean they are not getting success with women? Isn't it possible that some men are just very competitive when it comes to aesthetics and that may not affect their results
 
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Hmmm… I wonder what we can conclude from this.

Are these 20% looking at the other dudes because they see them as competitors? Or someone to emulate, perhaps?

I can say that since I got my fashion dialed in I started being more attentive at how other men dress.

It has two advantages:
1) I can find good outfit ideas from other guys… but most importantly
2) I can infer general EQ from other guys outfits

Low EQ guys tend to dress in extremely simplistic/tribalistic outfits… extremely easy to know how fierce the competition in the room is.
 

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i think i notice and i admire how someone looks, but i don't think it's what does it for them to be successful. and part of their looks is their vibe. I wonder if you're confusing kausation with korrelation. maybe they look at the guys because they already feel pre-defeated, not like hunters or just horney healthy natural men they are. i don't want to look at women unless i can look at them with natural confidence and power. Not "Alpha Power" or anything but just from a centered place of power, whatever I mean by that- just not weakess.. So at times i have to avoid looking.. but I'm becoming more arrogant, more embodied, more entitled, more morally assured, more sovereign in the world, or trying to-- in any context.
 

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If you remove the men that are attracted to other men, my sense is men look at other men because
- They are already looks focused.
- Perhaps they feel insecure about their own looks, so actively compare with other men.
- Perhaps, they are improving their looks and are looking at other men to see what looks good.
- They could be red pill, black pill, some other looks focused pill

You tend to see what you focus on, and you tend to focus on what you are emotionally driven to focus on.
Similar to when you are looking to buy a certain type of car and you suddenly notice that car all around.
 

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@Spike,

Wasn't bait & wasn't intended for you, man.


@Skills,


That's a good post!

So at least for some guys seems like a phase they go through.



@TomInHo,

So from the poll

80% of men are straight
4% are gay
16% are Bi-sexual

Those numbers don't look to strange to me and make a lot of sense

lol

Though I am pretty sure most of the guys responding on the Girls Chase X are straight ;)

Chase I have a question though. Why are you so concerned with men that are very looks focused?

I understand that you're not a fan of that outlook but isn't your poll actually promising?

80% of your audience aligns with your views so why so focused on the 20% that don't agree with you?

Plus if 20% of the guys are scoping out the competition does that also mean they are not getting success with women? Isn't it possible that some men are just very competitive when it comes to aesthetics and that may not affect their results

You don't find it fascinating to discover profoundly different core psychologies, eh?

Satificers vs. maximizers is another one of these. Or the variability in male preferences about female looks. Or the realization that many men and women wind up with mates who physically resemble them (e.g., look like they could be cousins).

My job is to be able to speak to a range of people.

Discovering ways in which parts of the audience are viewing the world that differ from your own, so you can speak their language and not alienate them or have pointless misunderstandings, is key.


@ulrich,

Hmmm… I wonder what we can conclude from this.

Are these 20% looking at the other dudes because they see them as competitors? Or someone to emulate, perhaps?

That's the question.

I suspect it would differ from man to man -- just purely speculating.

Some may be doing social comparison. Some may be looking for emulation.

But at least some seem to simply be wired to notice.

I can say that since I got my fashion dialed in I started being more attentive at how other men dress.

It has two advantages:
1) I can find good outfit ideas from other guys… but most importantly
2) I can infer general EQ from other guys outfits

Low EQ guys tend to dress in extremely simplistic/tribalistic outfits… extremely easy to know how fierce the competition in the room is.

I will tune into this most especially in new environments ("How does the average guy dress here? Who's the most exceptionally dressed man -- what's the high watermark for this environment?") or sometimes with exceptionally beautiful girls (e.g., "Oh, she's stunning. With her boyfriend, huh? How does he dress vs. how does she dress?").


@archimedes,

I wonder if you're confusing kausation with korrelation. maybe they look at the guys because they already feel pre-defeated, not like hunters or just horney healthy natural men they are.

Could be true for some of them but certainly not the guy I was out with.

Some men seem to just naturally pay more attention to how other men look.


@JasonH,

If you remove the men that are attracted to other men, my sense is men look at other men because
- They are already looks focused.
- Perhaps they feel insecure about their own looks, so actively compare with other men.
- Perhaps, they are improving their looks and are looking at other men to see what looks good.
- They could be red pill, black pill, some other looks focused pill

You tend to see what you focus on, and you tend to focus on what you are emotionally driven to focus on.
Similar to when you are looking to buy a certain type of car and you suddenly notice that car all around.

Certainly true for some of them.

But the realization for me from was that it is not cope or emulation for some men -- they just notice good-looking guys around them and register those men's looks. "Oh hey that guy's pretty handsome." Not in an insecure way, not in a jealous way, not in a gay way, just noticing it and commenting on it.

Kinda like "Wow that's a really big tree" or "That iridescent shell is striking."

Chase
 
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