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PinotNoir

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Pretty tired right now, so just short & sweet summaries. I'm 27 for age references below.

local = in my city
non-local = not in my city (2-3 hours away)

Wed: 1st date with local 26yo Chinese girl at mall
The plan was to meet at the mall parking lot on the Macy's side. She couldn't find it (new to the area), so we had this kind of cat-and-mouse thing finding each other in the parking lot.

Finally found each other; we joke about the maze of trying to find each other. Very cute girl, even though some acne. Best feature are her thighs and legs... damn, and is wearing booty jean shorts.

Go inside through the Macy's store. I joke about getting a dress and crap. We head to the top of the mall to Teavana. We try all of the samples. I find out about what she likes and job. I drink a tea and describe it in a ridiculous fashion, "With this tea... I feel like I'm in the woods with bears throwing honey at me" -- stuff like that. We talk about tea and china and traveling and everything. We both like one of the samples: chocolate chai. So, I just buy one for us to share. I take the lid off and we take turns drinking from different sides.

We walk around a bit and through another clothing store. Talking about normal deep-diving stuff and banter, etc. Go back down to 1st level and sit on bench and talk with each other. She shows me some of her paintings on her phone. I notice that her fingernail polish is a little scratched off. I use this opportunity to hold her hand and examine fingernails. She explains that she has to work with wires everyday and messes them up (Electrical Engineer). We talk a lot until security comes and kicks us out (we showed up to mall late).

I suggest maybe doing something else, but she says that she has to wake up early. Give her a kiss on the cheek and goodbye.

I think it went pretty well. But, I don't think it will go anywhere because she works 7 days a week with each day being over 8 hours. It's crazy to me, but she says that she loves what she does (and she "suggested" that electrical engineers in her field make like 100k a year, so I guess worth it). I also have a suspicion that there is an ex-boyfriend or something still around. I don't know why, just the vibe I got.

I tried to set up a lunch date for Friday, but never heard back :\ We'll see. I'll ping her again this week.

For weekend, traveled to see friends again in another city...

Sat: 3rd meeting with non-local 31yo Taiwanese girl that I'm pursuing

This is the same one from https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7423.

I bought her and her friend some icecream (friend is getting divorced and coming over for weekend, but not here yet). I arrive and give her a hug and end up picking her up and swirling her and telling her that I'm just helping her back (earlier in the week, texted me that her back hurt). I think we both enjoyed this a good bit (she was laughing and very smiley after).

Talked for about an hour at her place on the couch. Again, I missed so many windows to kiss her, but I thought "fuck it; I'm definitely kissing her this time." When we are saying goodbye and hugging, I hold her in my arms after the hug and ask, "Well, since your friend is coming over, this might be the only chance I get to see you, right?" She says yes. Then I say, "Well, there's something else I need to give you then." I give her kind of an aggressive kiss while squeezing her shoulder with my right hand and touching her face with my left. Then break and walking to door, and I put my shoes on. Then before I leave I say, "That wasn't good enough" and kiss her aggressively again. Then hug and say goodbye and she slaps me on the butt as I'm leaving jokingly.

This sounds good, but still fucked up. I can't believe it. First, missed the windows on the couch, so felt forced and maybe weird. I'm not sure if she liked it or not. Second, I didn't do a good romantic kiss. It was a pretty aggressive kiss. Like in Chase's article, I didn't pull away slowly and open my eyelids slowly and then say a compliment about the kiss. It just wasn't as romantic as I wanted, even though it was a long kiss.

Anyway, you'd think I'd feel elated but actually felt like shit after. After an hour, I send her a text commenting on her soft lips -- because forgot to during. We text back and forth a bit all weekend while I'm in town.

I try to meet her again Sat/Sun, but is busy. I even try to see her for just 5min Sun before I leave, but can't! I sound fucked. Still texting back and forth, so I guess that is at least a good sign. Time will tell if I fucked this up or not. At least I finally kissed her, and it opens the door up for other possibilities now. I wasn't going to go a 3rd weekend seeing her without kissing her. I should have hit the windows though and possibly could have had sex before her friend came over (since talked for an hour before her friend said she was on her way). Oh well, I was dumb.

Sun: 1st date with non-local 36yo Thai girl

If 31yo girl above could have met up, I would have axed this. Luckily, actually, she couldn't meet up, so I ended up following through with this date I set up earlier in the week through texts.

We met through Tinder in a way. She popped up on my friend's screen, and I told him to click Like and send her my # haha. They matched, so then he sent my # and said that his friend is interested. I texted her some pics and we chatted very briefly via text (this was last week).

Date is at 2pm, but she texts and reschedules for 2:30pm. No big deal. We meet at a really cool, local coffee place.

At first, she goes for the handshake. I should have done that and made it a flirtatious handshake as Chase told me to try, but for some reason, I did hug. I think out of habit.

Overall, the date went really well I think. We have chemistry and compatibility.

There was tons of deep diving and jokes and gay jokes and some sexual innuendos/flirtation, etc. Normal great conversation.

We're seated next to a fountain (with thrown pennies in it). Neither one of us have change, but there are sugar cubes on the table. So I pull 2 out for us to throw in. I throw mine in, but she didn't want to throw hers in haha. I asked our waiter if it was okay, and he said yes. She finally threw hers in. Just kind of a random and memorable fun thing during date.

At some point, she tells me that she doesn't like her fingers and that they are too long. I forget exactly how this came up. I use this opportunity (trying to improve touching on dates) to put our hands up against each other so that I can see how big her fingers are.

End of date. She's very conservative and shy (based on conversation throughout the date; hasn't had a boyfriend in 5 years). So, I decide to tell her that I'm going to kiss her on the cheek goodbye. Surprisingly, she says no haha. I say okay, just hug. Then as we hug, I kiss her on the cheek anyway. I rapekissed her cheek..... I know, terrible. Anyway, she smiled with shock, and I said sorry or something, and we laughed.

Even though nothing happened (kissing, sex, etc.), I still felt like it was a great date. That's probably weird to you guys out there, but I think we were both happy at the end, and I don't regret it.

Conclusion

Well, I still really like the 31yo Taiwanese girl. She's still at the top of my list, but I keep fucking up haha. I need to stop the cycle and just do things right. Hopefully it leads to sex soon, if she even agrees to see me more.

If not, the 36yo Thai girl is great, and we'll be going on a date again.
 

PinotNoir

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I forgot to mention. Met 2 girls this weekend too (man, love this city haha).

Went to hike a mountain with a friend and overheard 2 girls talking in Japanese, so I go, "nihonjin desu ka?" They like run over, and I tell them that I speak very little Japanese, and we (me+friend and 2 girls) talk for a while in broken english/japanese. I give the one girl (that I like) my # (I didn't have my phone on me), but she hasn't texted me yet. Either she got cold feet and deleted my #, or she'll text me in 2 weeks :p 2 weeks is my max time from experience. She's 19, so I really feel like I'm robbing the cradle with this one haha, but damn she is hot. She's in the city studying at a local college.

Next, one of my friends (amazing musician) was playing at a frat house. My other friend and I decide to go. Yeah, we are fucking old haha. But, no one really said anything about our ages surprisingly, even though it was obvious that we're 27/28 and everyone else is like barely 20. Free alcohol, so that's awesome. First, I approached 2 girls (1 asian + 1 white), but they were super bitchy (the very much "I get hit on by all of the guys" attitude -- princesses), and we got rejected hard. But then later in the night, approached 2 blondes, and we really hit it off with them. We got #s, but she's 20 and super party girl..... so no plans to follow through on this. Fun night though. Just lets you know not to get discouraged if get a bad rejection!
 

lao che

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i can see where you're at here, man. you've obviously been working on improving yourself step by step. you're getting good at meeting and getting girls out on dates and you're at the stage where you hesitate and doubt yourself instead of escalating. you'll get there. you've gotta treat any girl who talks to you about anything non-essential as wanting your dick. literally. any time a girl talks to you for any reason that she absolutely doesn't have to, whenever she replies to a text you sent, even, you've gotta take that as a signal to move forward. haha that sounds crazy when i read it back but i believe it's true. should have escalated hard and fast when you had the 31yo alone in her apartment. (although i'll say there's a different vibe when you go to a girl's place. like a soccer team playing away from home, you lose the advantage somewhat)
you've gotta embody the sexy. get comfortable with your own sexuality. and just look at her while feeling it. let your eyes scan up and down her body, imagine what she looks like naked. you can be talking about some pretty boring shit while this is going on but she'll feel the vibe. i seduced a girl with my fucking supermarket receipt. used to drive my girlfriend wild reading her my spaghetti bolognese recipe. you'll get there, man, and when you do you'll see that when you fuck a girl you're giving her what she wants. gotta give the people what they want

she's gonna be thinking of you as boyfriend material now, and you might be too young to really be her proper boyfriend, esp with her being asian. it also sounds from your report that you might want a girl to hang out with more than just to fuck.

interesting to hear your thoughts on the younger girls. i'm 39yo and when i read the words "19yo japanese girl" i get a chubby. you seem to like the older ladies. but asians do age well!

my opinion, smash the japanese chick as fast as you can! then, if you get the taiwan girl out on another date .. no don't even get her out on a date, get her over to your place (i would suggest cooking together. tell her to bring wine) and smash her before you even cook. then cook dinner, eat, and smash her again.


where are you?




**edit** just read the report about the massage ..... shiiiiiiiiiii i'm surprised after this that she agreed to another date. she was definitely expecting you to fuck her at her apartment. she agreed to a flimsy excuse to see you and arranged it so she would have time alone with you somewhere private.

chase gave you spot-on advice about the massage. that's the only way it should go down. but you shouldn't need to be told what to do. every man knows what to do. you gotta let the animal take over. stop over-thinking it.
personally, re: the massage i would have done exactly like chase said, except with the intention of not fucking her. but i would have her so fucking hot and bothered and i'd be telling her exactly what i would be doing to her and teasing her: "but, you're sick. we can't ..." you'd come off as much stronger for not needing to get it right there and then and she'd being going wild. probably wouldn't let you get away in one piece
 
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PinotNoir

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Thanks man. Yeah, definitely fucked up here, but the past is the past. I just got to learn from it and not fuck up again. This was a confusing situation here for me because she told me that her friend just got a divorce and was going to stay with her, so I expected coming over and seeing both of them. Then when I arrived, she said that her friend would arrive shortly, but her friend didn't arrive until an hour. I was so stupid and just listened/accepted what she said. I was thinking, "Oh okay, her friend is about to be here soon, no reason to start getting into it," but in hindsight, I think she was just using those as excuses to make herself not look like a slut or something, and I should have fucked her in that hour timeslot before her friend arrived.

To be honest, I think that might be dead now. I tried to push for us meeting, but she's traveling every weekend this month. I'm just going to give it radio silence until end of month or something.

As for the 19 year old Japanese girl, she was smoking hot and was very giddy about getting my # in my phone, but alas, she never texted/called. I should have memorized her # (I didn't have my phone on me). I think she probably got cold feet (because of age or language barrier) and deleted my #.

As for the other 20 year old white girl from the party, I think that could have potentially gone to sex, but I just wasn't that interested to be honest. She was blonde and attractive, but I don't know, just something about her. She felt like my younger sister, and it just kind of turned me off. We're still on good terms and text sometimes.

Lastly, the 36 year old Thai girl also crashed and burned haha. Not very good. This one ended in a very weird way. I jokingly sent her a text about kissing her on the cheek again next date, and she got really freaked out and got all bitchy with me. She's so conservative; it's ridiculous. I pretty much just said goodbye to that. It's no wonder she hasn't had a boyfriend in 5 years, if she's going to get upset with me potentially kissing her on the cheek on the 2nd date....what??? Oh well. On to new horizons.
 
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