parts 1 and 2 are here: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7934
part 3 contains the most learning points, IMO
so the following day my buddy actually picks up a girl! who'da thunk it.
we go down to the ocean, it's a rocky place where people are jumping off the cliffs and stuff. not crowded, several good looking girls, though. later a real cute/hot girl arrives with a dude. i'm trying to check her out but there's that awkwardness where every time i do she seems to be looking at me so i can't ogle as much as i'd like.
after a while me and buddy are hanging out thinking about making a move (he wants to go kinda early) the chick and her dude come back over to where we are and buddy starts talking her up. they actually seem to be hitting it off. usual stuff, hi, where you from, oh i've been there bla bla kind of stuff. he's talking about where and what he studies. apparently he has two bachelor's degrees. one in finance. who knew?
i can't really here. but she seems keen, tough to say. she is with that guy though. he is introduced as her "Church brother" he doesn't speak much english but when asked directly if she's his girlfriend he says yes
turns out she's from the main city and is heading back there later. we also are heading that way as our flight leaves the next morning (it's only an hour by bus but we're gonna hang there for the night). my buddy invites her (the two of them, ostensibly) for dinner and surprisingly she says she'd like to meet us. i'm definitely a third party in this convo so i'm letting him do his thing. there's some awkwardness as buddy's not sure what to do now, he doesn't wanna leave now he's got a chick interested, and we're not sure if we all will go to the city together by bus. i don't think that's a good idea so i suggest we leave now and call her in the evening.
we get to the city (my buddy's plan previously (this was his trip i joined last minute) was to go drinking then sleep in the airport uggh ) i've already spoken my mind about this bad idea now i'm telling him "do you wanna get laid? i do. you don't seem to care. if you wanna get laid we better at least get a bed so we can shower and whatnot. maybe get a room"
we decide on dorm beds coz we're only there for a few hours (mistake, a room would have been the cost of a beer or two more each) and he gets showered and goes to call the chick. i go down to find him (on the way down i notice there's a patio one floor below our room) he's in a bar and .... tadaaaaaa ... tells me she's on her way. 15 minutes.
i tell him i'll go for dinner then leave them to it. she rocks up, walking up the road toward me. when i recognize her i say "oh my god!" in exaggerated shock. she's looking good. she repeats it back to me laughing and sits down next to my buddy. he orders another beer (not me) and she looks at the drink menu. i'm teasing her about not being old enough to drink (she doesn't wanna drink anyway) i'm not gonna let her sit without a drink though so i coerce her into getting a juice or something. i'd like buddy to do this but he's not stepping up.
at first buddy seems to be doing ok. she's smacking his arm and laughing a couple times. she has a really hard time understanding me. i'm hardly talking to her but whenever i do she looks at me blankly, shakes her head and says "what?" this happens several times and becomes a running joke between us. i pride myself on having a strong clear voice but turns out i'm speaking to quickly for her, which surprised me. her english was great, by the way.
so we've not decided on dinner and buddy orders another beer. i have to step up and make the decision on what and where to eat, as he's not doing it.
we stayed long enough for him to order a 3rd (or 4th?) beer (me, just 1). i get up and leave several times as i'm trying not to cramp his style. i message him a few times from in the bathroom or whatever:
me: "game on i think. i'll take off after dinner"
me: "she already likes you don't try to impress her anymore. focus on her"
him: "um maybe bro. no idea. think she might like you. slut."
me: "think it's swinging that way but i'm honestly trying not to. take it easy on the booze"
him: "do it. fucker"
me: "she's hitting you all the time. thumbs up"
but the conversation is becoming terrible. he's asking her stupid questions like "what's that? what's that place" pointing at different places, bars or whatever. "what's down there?" guys, she's a girl, not a tour-guide. he also says ridiculous shit like "this is my favourite song" (some k-pop tune) or "i'm a really good korean singer" ( he doesn't know one word of korean WTF) and she's like "oh, really?" she doesn't know what's up. why's he saying that? she can't tell he's "joking" and he can't tell it's not fucking funny. he also says "when i saw you my heart went boom boom boom" puts his hand up inside his shirt and moves back and forth so it looks like a pounding heart. and then he'll talk about himself some more. jesus.
at one point i notice she has a gold tooth. i say "yeah i noticed earlier at the seaside but wasn't sure. now you're laughing i see it"
she asks me to do a proper english accent which i refuse, i ask her if she can and she says "what's the matter" it's pretty good, like a londoner. and it reminds me of some music by an obscure british band called life without buildings (check it out guys, they deserve more love) i recommend the music to her and we riff about music for a while (she emailed me last night telling me how much she loves life without buildings)
my buddy's in the bathroom so i have to keep the conversation going. i notice her pretty necklace and comment on it. she tells me "it was a gift from my father and then one day at school i noticed another girl wearing the same necklace. i stopped to talk to her and she said it was a gift from her father, too. now she's my best friend"
buddy comes back and says "nice necklace" or whatever and i say "tell him" she doesn't want to tell him, but it's more awkward for her not to, so she does. (turns out her friend works nearby in a coffeeshop so of course we have to go visit her, which we do before dinner. a fourth person here would be a godsend, but she's not off work till midnight. )
she goes to the bathroom and i'm telling him to get his shit together. he says "she doesn't want me she wants you. i'm not gonna do it" i tell him with that attitude it's never gonna happen but i'm trying to help. i think we discussed the possibility of sharing her, which, fuck it why not? haha i'll do that for him, i'd rather have her to myself though. i mean, i'd rather him take her but with those limiting beliefs ....
so we go to dinner. i just now remembered also she tried to sit next to me (she actually asked "can i sit next to you? and sat down) but i noticed that it wouldn't be comfortable, there was something on the wall would have kind of stuck out into her. i guess we could have swapped sides but i said, "sure, it might not be comfortable though. sit that side"
so buddy is dying, to be honest. i keep trying to help him. he says some more shit like "when i saw you i thought you were the most beautiful girl in the world" not exactly that but close enough. i'm sure he doesn't even know her name. he goes to smoke a cigarette and the girl asks me about going to my home country. i never go home it's been almost ten years. and i've lived away for fifteen. she asks why and it takes me a minute to collect my thoughts.
something like this:
"i'm a completely different person now than i was back then. i don't like that guy and i'm afraid that if i go back to england i'll start to change back, i don't wanna become that guy again because i like who i am now. it's taken me a long time and when you're at home you can't grow and become the person you should and could be"
she really related to me on this. she told me how that's why she wants to go to live in seoul, to get away from her family, and live her own life. how she felt kind of trapped having been in the same place all her life.
i also told her about how i'm not close with my family. girls always ask about family and it can be a dealbreaker, it's a tough thing to admit that you don't miss your mum! but she totally got it and we both agreed that you don't have to like them to love them, kind of thing. i told her family is like a safety net, try to climb as high as you can but they'll be there for you if you fall.
we really bonded here, you can see. i'm surprised writing this, i think i like this girl. i'm surprised too we got all this conversation into the time it took my buddy to smoke a cigarette.
he comes back and starts talking about how he wants to win her a teddy bear (!) but by now he knows, i think. he says pointedly, "sorry to interrupt"
so off we go to win a teddy, like bb rifles or something. but he changes his mind because it looks to hard haha
we wander through the street drinking a can of beer. buddy keeps relying on her to make the decisions. i'm trying not to lead too much, walk away by myself. she suggests the beach (a taxi ride away), it's like midnight i think but she says there'll be people partying. it's cold so i say come up to the hostel so i can put on a shirt and we all go up to our room together. now my nefarious plan here is to go down to the patio and try and sex up this girl with my buddy together. so we walk down the stairs, he goes first, one floor below us is the patio but he walks off, keeps going down. i call him back, so does the girl. (obv we can't shout too loud in the hostel) but he doesn't come back. so i grab her and take her outside on the patio. i wanna talk to her. i tell her i'm gonna leave. i say i think my friend likes you, you like him. i'm gonna leave you alone. she tells me if i go, she goes. i repeat, no, i think i should go but she seems quite sure and there's definitely a sexy vibe. i'm sure i could have got her right there and then.
so we go find buddy, he'd found a little basement bar and was waiting outside to tell us. i told him "we called you man why'd you walk off" and she says too, "yeah we both called you"
this bar is at the bottom of a staircase, door at the bottom. she sits next to me. we all go outside to smoke a cig and when we return buddy goes first, i let the door swing closed and grab the girl and have a very passionate, quick makeout on the stairs, then we go inside and sit back down. i'm sitting with my arm behind her, resting on her chair, leaning back, very relaxed. or i put my hand down and stroke her legs, not full on upskirt just nice on the knee or thigh. don't think buddy can see, i'm not trying to rub his face in it.
so things come to an end, but i can't remember exactly how. i guess buddy knew what was up and decided to go to bed (it's late and we gotta go to the airport in the a.m) so i take my girl up to the patio. it's quite nice, secluded. we're making out and talking and getting heavy. we'd been there a while when, (if you have read part 1 this will come as no surprise!) my buddy comes out. SHIIIIIIII this fucking guy! he didn't see us making out or anything but he said something like "oh i couldn't sleep i thought you guys would be here" awesome. i almost ignored him completely besides cursory greetings and my girl did the same. eventually the tension was too much to bear and he excused himself and went back to bed. i waited for a few minutes, checked the coast was clear, and got back to business.
she kept asking me "why do you like me" and at one point "why do you like me i don't have pixie ears" (a reference to something i said earlier). i told her straight i thought she was smart and fun and easy to talk to and i felt we had a connection. as for the ears i said "yeah but you've got great tits"
anyway point is you can see where buddy fucked up. the "why do you like me" is huge. he didn't notice anything except her face, like i said he probably doesn't know her name. i remembered it first time and used it perfectly. it was my first time in korea, i speak none. and noticing things about her and relating to her instead of trying to impress her. she just wanted to know i understood her a little and could see past her beauty.
also i realized how fucking effortless it is now. i've noticed in my daily life that i'm just fucking sexy to everyone. it's become a part of me. i really did nothing to encourage this girl to like me. i didn't try at all. i'm just naturally charming and hilariously funny and sexy now hahahahahahahahahahahahaha only took 40 years!
that's it. i think there's a load of learning points here. see if you can spot em. there's also obvious examples of r/K selection and why you wanna present yourself as the lover.
one thing i wanna point out is, i don't wanna get into whether it was right to go with "my buddy's girl" or whatever, but i'll say this (and this is something which my buddy certainly won't understand, but hopefully you guys will): i did it for her. i'll say that again. i did it for the girl. i didn't want the girl to go home disappointed.
oh by the way i didn't fuck her! couldn't get all the way into her pants. had to content myself with a hand-job while i sucked on her titties. i'll get her next time.
also, i have a question. do you guys think she came out to see my buddy then got put off? or was coming to see me the whole time? or maybe she genuinely was coming with "just friends" in mind but couldn't help falling prey to my sexual dynamism? gotta be one of those 3, i would say. what you think?
part 3 contains the most learning points, IMO
so the following day my buddy actually picks up a girl! who'da thunk it.
we go down to the ocean, it's a rocky place where people are jumping off the cliffs and stuff. not crowded, several good looking girls, though. later a real cute/hot girl arrives with a dude. i'm trying to check her out but there's that awkwardness where every time i do she seems to be looking at me so i can't ogle as much as i'd like.
after a while me and buddy are hanging out thinking about making a move (he wants to go kinda early) the chick and her dude come back over to where we are and buddy starts talking her up. they actually seem to be hitting it off. usual stuff, hi, where you from, oh i've been there bla bla kind of stuff. he's talking about where and what he studies. apparently he has two bachelor's degrees. one in finance. who knew?
i can't really here. but she seems keen, tough to say. she is with that guy though. he is introduced as her "Church brother" he doesn't speak much english but when asked directly if she's his girlfriend he says yes
turns out she's from the main city and is heading back there later. we also are heading that way as our flight leaves the next morning (it's only an hour by bus but we're gonna hang there for the night). my buddy invites her (the two of them, ostensibly) for dinner and surprisingly she says she'd like to meet us. i'm definitely a third party in this convo so i'm letting him do his thing. there's some awkwardness as buddy's not sure what to do now, he doesn't wanna leave now he's got a chick interested, and we're not sure if we all will go to the city together by bus. i don't think that's a good idea so i suggest we leave now and call her in the evening.
we get to the city (my buddy's plan previously (this was his trip i joined last minute) was to go drinking then sleep in the airport uggh ) i've already spoken my mind about this bad idea now i'm telling him "do you wanna get laid? i do. you don't seem to care. if you wanna get laid we better at least get a bed so we can shower and whatnot. maybe get a room"
we decide on dorm beds coz we're only there for a few hours (mistake, a room would have been the cost of a beer or two more each) and he gets showered and goes to call the chick. i go down to find him (on the way down i notice there's a patio one floor below our room) he's in a bar and .... tadaaaaaa ... tells me she's on her way. 15 minutes.
i tell him i'll go for dinner then leave them to it. she rocks up, walking up the road toward me. when i recognize her i say "oh my god!" in exaggerated shock. she's looking good. she repeats it back to me laughing and sits down next to my buddy. he orders another beer (not me) and she looks at the drink menu. i'm teasing her about not being old enough to drink (she doesn't wanna drink anyway) i'm not gonna let her sit without a drink though so i coerce her into getting a juice or something. i'd like buddy to do this but he's not stepping up.
at first buddy seems to be doing ok. she's smacking his arm and laughing a couple times. she has a really hard time understanding me. i'm hardly talking to her but whenever i do she looks at me blankly, shakes her head and says "what?" this happens several times and becomes a running joke between us. i pride myself on having a strong clear voice but turns out i'm speaking to quickly for her, which surprised me. her english was great, by the way.
so we've not decided on dinner and buddy orders another beer. i have to step up and make the decision on what and where to eat, as he's not doing it.
we stayed long enough for him to order a 3rd (or 4th?) beer (me, just 1). i get up and leave several times as i'm trying not to cramp his style. i message him a few times from in the bathroom or whatever:
me: "game on i think. i'll take off after dinner"
me: "she already likes you don't try to impress her anymore. focus on her"
him: "um maybe bro. no idea. think she might like you. slut."
me: "think it's swinging that way but i'm honestly trying not to. take it easy on the booze"
him: "do it. fucker"
me: "she's hitting you all the time. thumbs up"
but the conversation is becoming terrible. he's asking her stupid questions like "what's that? what's that place" pointing at different places, bars or whatever. "what's down there?" guys, she's a girl, not a tour-guide. he also says ridiculous shit like "this is my favourite song" (some k-pop tune) or "i'm a really good korean singer" ( he doesn't know one word of korean WTF) and she's like "oh, really?" she doesn't know what's up. why's he saying that? she can't tell he's "joking" and he can't tell it's not fucking funny. he also says "when i saw you my heart went boom boom boom" puts his hand up inside his shirt and moves back and forth so it looks like a pounding heart. and then he'll talk about himself some more. jesus.
at one point i notice she has a gold tooth. i say "yeah i noticed earlier at the seaside but wasn't sure. now you're laughing i see it"
she asks me to do a proper english accent which i refuse, i ask her if she can and she says "what's the matter" it's pretty good, like a londoner. and it reminds me of some music by an obscure british band called life without buildings (check it out guys, they deserve more love) i recommend the music to her and we riff about music for a while (she emailed me last night telling me how much she loves life without buildings)
my buddy's in the bathroom so i have to keep the conversation going. i notice her pretty necklace and comment on it. she tells me "it was a gift from my father and then one day at school i noticed another girl wearing the same necklace. i stopped to talk to her and she said it was a gift from her father, too. now she's my best friend"
buddy comes back and says "nice necklace" or whatever and i say "tell him" she doesn't want to tell him, but it's more awkward for her not to, so she does. (turns out her friend works nearby in a coffeeshop so of course we have to go visit her, which we do before dinner. a fourth person here would be a godsend, but she's not off work till midnight. )
she goes to the bathroom and i'm telling him to get his shit together. he says "she doesn't want me she wants you. i'm not gonna do it" i tell him with that attitude it's never gonna happen but i'm trying to help. i think we discussed the possibility of sharing her, which, fuck it why not? haha i'll do that for him, i'd rather have her to myself though. i mean, i'd rather him take her but with those limiting beliefs ....
so we go to dinner. i just now remembered also she tried to sit next to me (she actually asked "can i sit next to you? and sat down) but i noticed that it wouldn't be comfortable, there was something on the wall would have kind of stuck out into her. i guess we could have swapped sides but i said, "sure, it might not be comfortable though. sit that side"
so buddy is dying, to be honest. i keep trying to help him. he says some more shit like "when i saw you i thought you were the most beautiful girl in the world" not exactly that but close enough. i'm sure he doesn't even know her name. he goes to smoke a cigarette and the girl asks me about going to my home country. i never go home it's been almost ten years. and i've lived away for fifteen. she asks why and it takes me a minute to collect my thoughts.
something like this:
"i'm a completely different person now than i was back then. i don't like that guy and i'm afraid that if i go back to england i'll start to change back, i don't wanna become that guy again because i like who i am now. it's taken me a long time and when you're at home you can't grow and become the person you should and could be"
she really related to me on this. she told me how that's why she wants to go to live in seoul, to get away from her family, and live her own life. how she felt kind of trapped having been in the same place all her life.
i also told her about how i'm not close with my family. girls always ask about family and it can be a dealbreaker, it's a tough thing to admit that you don't miss your mum! but she totally got it and we both agreed that you don't have to like them to love them, kind of thing. i told her family is like a safety net, try to climb as high as you can but they'll be there for you if you fall.
we really bonded here, you can see. i'm surprised writing this, i think i like this girl. i'm surprised too we got all this conversation into the time it took my buddy to smoke a cigarette.
he comes back and starts talking about how he wants to win her a teddy bear (!) but by now he knows, i think. he says pointedly, "sorry to interrupt"
so off we go to win a teddy, like bb rifles or something. but he changes his mind because it looks to hard haha
we wander through the street drinking a can of beer. buddy keeps relying on her to make the decisions. i'm trying not to lead too much, walk away by myself. she suggests the beach (a taxi ride away), it's like midnight i think but she says there'll be people partying. it's cold so i say come up to the hostel so i can put on a shirt and we all go up to our room together. now my nefarious plan here is to go down to the patio and try and sex up this girl with my buddy together. so we walk down the stairs, he goes first, one floor below us is the patio but he walks off, keeps going down. i call him back, so does the girl. (obv we can't shout too loud in the hostel) but he doesn't come back. so i grab her and take her outside on the patio. i wanna talk to her. i tell her i'm gonna leave. i say i think my friend likes you, you like him. i'm gonna leave you alone. she tells me if i go, she goes. i repeat, no, i think i should go but she seems quite sure and there's definitely a sexy vibe. i'm sure i could have got her right there and then.
so we go find buddy, he'd found a little basement bar and was waiting outside to tell us. i told him "we called you man why'd you walk off" and she says too, "yeah we both called you"
this bar is at the bottom of a staircase, door at the bottom. she sits next to me. we all go outside to smoke a cig and when we return buddy goes first, i let the door swing closed and grab the girl and have a very passionate, quick makeout on the stairs, then we go inside and sit back down. i'm sitting with my arm behind her, resting on her chair, leaning back, very relaxed. or i put my hand down and stroke her legs, not full on upskirt just nice on the knee or thigh. don't think buddy can see, i'm not trying to rub his face in it.
so things come to an end, but i can't remember exactly how. i guess buddy knew what was up and decided to go to bed (it's late and we gotta go to the airport in the a.m) so i take my girl up to the patio. it's quite nice, secluded. we're making out and talking and getting heavy. we'd been there a while when, (if you have read part 1 this will come as no surprise!) my buddy comes out. SHIIIIIIII this fucking guy! he didn't see us making out or anything but he said something like "oh i couldn't sleep i thought you guys would be here" awesome. i almost ignored him completely besides cursory greetings and my girl did the same. eventually the tension was too much to bear and he excused himself and went back to bed. i waited for a few minutes, checked the coast was clear, and got back to business.
she kept asking me "why do you like me" and at one point "why do you like me i don't have pixie ears" (a reference to something i said earlier). i told her straight i thought she was smart and fun and easy to talk to and i felt we had a connection. as for the ears i said "yeah but you've got great tits"
anyway point is you can see where buddy fucked up. the "why do you like me" is huge. he didn't notice anything except her face, like i said he probably doesn't know her name. i remembered it first time and used it perfectly. it was my first time in korea, i speak none. and noticing things about her and relating to her instead of trying to impress her. she just wanted to know i understood her a little and could see past her beauty.
also i realized how fucking effortless it is now. i've noticed in my daily life that i'm just fucking sexy to everyone. it's become a part of me. i really did nothing to encourage this girl to like me. i didn't try at all. i'm just naturally charming and hilariously funny and sexy now hahahahahahahahahahahahaha only took 40 years!
that's it. i think there's a load of learning points here. see if you can spot em. there's also obvious examples of r/K selection and why you wanna present yourself as the lover.
one thing i wanna point out is, i don't wanna get into whether it was right to go with "my buddy's girl" or whatever, but i'll say this (and this is something which my buddy certainly won't understand, but hopefully you guys will): i did it for her. i'll say that again. i did it for the girl. i didn't want the girl to go home disappointed.
oh by the way i didn't fuck her! couldn't get all the way into her pants. had to content myself with a hand-job while i sucked on her titties. i'll get her next time.
also, i have a question. do you guys think she came out to see my buddy then got put off? or was coming to see me the whole time? or maybe she genuinely was coming with "just friends" in mind but couldn't help falling prey to my sexual dynamism? gotta be one of those 3, i would say. what you think?
