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FR  3 numbers, 1 near-pull

SalsaChops

Space Monkey
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This FR is significant, because its the first time I've used deep diving and sexualizing to get a girl to reveal something very personal and sexual about herself quickly.

This was the best result I had out of my holiday stint in which I ended up with 9 numbers to folllow up on this week. Unfortunately, I went 0 for 9 getting dates with flakes ranging from "ljbf" and "I have a bf" to unresponsiveness. (I generally don't bother to text beyond 2 texts without a response. I'd rather meet new receptive girls who actually respond.) I'm still determined to refine my process and keep meeting new girls. I'd rather be 0 for 9 without any hits than sitting on the bench and not swinging.

I went to a small mexican restaurant in my city that has salsa dancing weekly. I decided wtf and number closed a couple of dancer girls I have been vibing with well over the last few months. I figured they were likely flakes (expired attraction window), but low hanging fruit so why not. I made it clear to both of them I wanted to get a drink or something to eat, so my intentions were at least clear. As of this FR one has flat out turned me down with "I'm kind of seeing someone ljbf" while the other has not responded in 24 hours (this second flake surpises me as she was being really flirty and fun on the dance floor with me).

I decide to go up to the bar and get a beer, and another salsa girl I know introduces me her to her really cute friend (BrunetteCutie) sitting next to me. Both of these girls are undergraduates and very attractive. I start convo with BrunetteCutie and do better than I can ever remember doing so far with deep diving and sexualization. I casually get her number and ask her what the craziest thing she's ever done is, and then relate first with my new year's eve fling from last year (I could tell she was blatantly holding something back, so I wanted to broach the topic of sex first). We had been talking about travel, and she said she had started to have sex in an alley with an italian guy who had picked her up in a club there. She said she was ashamed, being a catholic and I told her not to be. I went into my speal about how we are sexual beings and societies "rules" are absurd with this. We discussed the double standard concerning sex in the west, and at this point I could tell she was getting turned on (she kept biting her lip!).

We started dancing (at her request), and I led her onto the dance floor with good kino. She kept biting her lip and looking at me with lusty eyes, so I went for the pull and asked her back to my place with an offer of chocolate and dancing. She said "I can't" in a pouty voice, and went to find her friend at the bar. I went to get ready to leave (the place was dead at this point), and said goodbye on the way out. As I said goodbye she out her hands on me and still gave me a lusty gaze, so its clear that should have persisted rather than depart. She won't respond to my last 2 texts, so I think she is either in auto rejection or only wanted me to pull her home that night.

Key takaways:
1) My convo is improving, and I'm proud I got a cute younger girl to reveal something so personal to me and then consider going home with me.
2) Once you pull, Persist! Persist! Persist! and be dominant!
3) Because of all the sexual competition, salsa girls are really flaky with shorter attraction windows than most. New girls on my scene (like BrunetteCutie) don't last long.
4) My house is a usually a 20 minute drive or more from these venues, so isolation and escalating in my car first seems like a possibility. ("Let's go check out this new awesome new dance music in my car.").
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

SalsaChops

Space Monkey
space monkey
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Thanks for the feedback!

I see your point on the pull being "overeager". I'm definately still in the phase where I'm overcompensating on the side of being too bold, because I spent the last 25 years of my life being too weak and not approaching or escalating.

My follow up texts were to save my number then ask her out for a drink. Like you said, I had already killed the vibe some with the pull attempt, so asking her out just made me look too easy / needy.

I've pulled off same night lays from downtown, but I'm convinced we have to be making out enthusiastically before I go for the pull. The whole girls chase casual pull strategy breaks down if your place is farther away.
 
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