50% of people in their 20s DID NOT HAVE SEX in 2016.

[AlphaKing]

"49% of people in their 20s have not had sex at all in the past year. Even more shocking? The study says one in three 20s have never had sex at all."

Link to article: http://time.com/3852117/millennials-sex-parents-boomers/

I remember Chase said Hypergamy is "only a problem in online dating and clubs" - well guess what, that's where everyone is trying to date.
I would love to know your opinions on this..

 

[Franco]

AlphaKing,

You might want to figure out exactly what you're asking here, first.

The article you linked just talks about the lack of sex that millennials are having (if that study is even true -- most of the more knowledgeable guys on these boards would agree that women [and sometimes even men] tend to "fumble with the numbers" in surveys about sexual partner counts).

What is the question you are asking here in relation to hypergamy and online dating/clubs? Are you attempting to draw a correlation between the lack of sex millennials are having and the increased amount of online dating/club goers?

- Franco

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I think it has to do with the rise in helicopter parenting, rise of technology, and events such as the campus rape hysteria going on. Women are under more surveillance now so sneaking around becomes harder and rise in feminism has made a ton of women unfuckable. Go to the mall in the 90s and you would find fit attractive women in higher numbers but these days the places are loaded with tons of overweight girls. Worse of all we have shit like fat acceptance and these fat cunts start acting like they're fit super models, like no way bitch, you're a fat cunt, go back to your cave that you can barely fit into!

 

[ProblemSolving]

There are a lot of studies coming out demonstrating a lack of sexual interest in millennials despite the media's claim of the "hookup culture". However, these articles completely miss the cause of the this effect.

The cause behind the lack of sexual interest is caused by this generation's obsession with the internet. Guys can safely sit at home in front of the computer jacking off to girls they couldn't lay in a million years in the real world without every having to feel rejection. The girls aren't any better. If girls want male attention, all they have to do is post a few selfies on Instagram, FB, or Tinder and have hundreds of guys giving them the validation they crave. With that validation fix, there's no need to meet up with a guy and have sex. After all, having sex with a new partner lowers her value and getting attention increases her value. Before the internet, the very few times girls would experience male sexual interest was in person and because it was so scarce, they were thirsty and excited by it and of course more people got laid as a result.

No matter how good looking, rich, or smooth you are, you still have to put in the reps to get laid- even more reps than the previous generations.

 

[AlphaKing]

that women [and sometimes even men] tend to "fumble with the numbers" in surveys about sexual partner counts).

Yes, I still think it's pretty accurate though (since women say they had less sex, and men will say they had sex even though they didn't)

Are you attempting to draw a correlation between the lack of sex millennials are having and the increased amount of online dating/club goers?

Pretty much. I'm in this new generation, and both boys and girls - are all on the internet or and in clubs partying, and are not even bothering with dating anymore.
While I see tons of people with relationships, there's about the same amount of people that do not have one (or sex).

No matter how good looking, rich, or smooth you are, you still have to put in the reps to get laid- even more reps than the previous generations.

Yes, I totally agree. You really might be on to something.

 

[Drck]

IMO sex is simply overrated. A guy can go online anytime he wants to and jerk off to porn, he can see hundreds of pussies every single day. If he goes out and tries to chat with new girls, he usually gets shot down, rejected, and if not he is having hard time. He's got to learn game, which takes long time, and the progress is usually not that easy. Porn is simply very easy escape from harsh reality of dating and rejections.

Technology doesn't help at all, people can "connect" to each other in seconds via internet and phones, yet the reality is that most became more distant. People spent hours and hours online instead of communicating directly to each other.

People are more selfish, more egoistic, more attention seeking (see above, e.g. selfies, instagram...). Many times it is difficult to truly connect on emotional level with somebody who is only concern about himself or herself...

People got more fat. Guys got fat and lazy. They don't want to move, they don't want to play sports, run around, lift weights... They rather sit home, eat pizza, drink sodas and play games. A guy who play games for couple years has multiple-fold less social skills than guy who interacts with people... The thing is, this overall behavior decreases levels of testosterone, guys are simply less horny and less skilled in communication. Also, because of the accumulated fat they also have too much of hormonal imbalance, too much of estrogen metabolites in blood. Estrogen is female hormone circulating in male's body... In other words, guys became more girly, weaker, softer, fatter... Which in simple words translates to less attractive to females...

Girls got fat and lazy as well. Fat(er) girl is not as attractive as skinny girl. There is a difference if you see a girl that is 5'5" and has 170 pounds vs girl tat is 5'5" and has 115 pounds. Not mentioning girls with 200+ pounds... Girls did, however, gain lots of feminism, more independence, more self-sufficiency. They are allowed to be more dominant, to make more and more choices for themselves... They gain lots of classical male power, thus they don't really 'need' males, especially not weak males...

So sex itself is no longer as attractive as it used to be. It involves hard work of approaching and contacting strangers (women) while facing easy rejections, emotional suffering through flakes and rejections, overall lesser desire for females, and lesser attraction of both males and females...

 

[Franco]

You guys have a lot of good points here, and what all of you are saying is mostly true, but I think there's also a few things worth mentioning to add on to these points.

I think one of the main points is this: in general, less guys are having sex, but there are a handful of guys who are having sex with a LOT of women, and those women are having plenty of sex.

The idea behind this, like ProblemSolving and Drck both correctly pointed out, is that lots of guys have other ways of reaching "sexual satisfaction" without having to ever pursue women in the real world. The internet has provided an outlet and a way for guys to avoid rejection/embarrassment/failure by allowing themselves to go on the internet and view beautiful women having sex, which is often good enough (with some "physical" stimulation) to achieve climax and release any built-up biological tension. In other words, it's an alternative solution to guys being "horny" all the time.

That being said, most women are still having sex these days because it is easy to get it if they want it. There is probably a downtrend in the amount of sex they are having overall, but it's probably negligible compared to the percentage of men who are not having sex. The difference here is that these women are all having sex with a very small percentage of men -- the small percentage of men who actually still go out and attempt to get laid instead of masturbating to porn on the internet every day. That small percentage of men is the biggest winner in this current "meta" of sex and relationships because there are a LOT more horny, unsatisfied women out there and there are a LOT less guys becoming available to them. So these women end up sleeping with lots of players and bad boys because all of the "good" guys are at home yanking their hams to PornHub's newest content.

I actually talked about this phenomenon in a post about 3 years ago on the forums; I referred to it as a "pyramid" hierarchy among men and women. Check out my old post here to see what I am talking about:

• Pyramid Hierachy

TL;DR: Men reside in the highest and lowest echelons of the pyramid while women always remain in the middle. The base of the pyramid contains the most men (i.e. guys not getting laid and masturbating to porn, OR sleeping with unattractive women) while the top of the pyramid contains the fewest men (i.e. guys who improve themselves constantly and seek out sex with women; a.k.a. players/bad boys). Women are always in the middle because they do not desire the guys below them, so they all end up chasing (and sleeping with) the guys in the highest tier of the pyramid. So women are actually still having plenty of sex, but only with a handful of high-value men.

- Franco