A Different Way of Meeting Women

[Bboy100]

Ok, so I don't know if this has been suggested in the pickup community before, but I've been listening to this podcast as of late. Its by a guy named Tucker Max. Most his material in terms of dating is ok, but I feel like its just plain wrong in a lot of ways, and his entire paradigm is different (i.e. he thinks "pickup" and "cold approach" is a bad idea). GC is far more insightful and accurate. Hands down. Having said that, he did have one video which peaked my interest. Its about where/how to meet women.

The basic concept is that you involve yourself in a bunch of different social circles which naturally rotate new women in very frequently

Ex.
Crossfit or other fitness classes
Intermural/Underdog sports
Academic classes
Volunteer work
Conferences
Your actual social circle (assuming it has the kind of women you want to meet)
Non academic classes (ex. cooking, wine tasting, art, etc.)
Improv Comedy
Groups dedicated to a cause that interests you
Church Organized events
...and so on


The basic concept is that whatever it is you like to do with your time, you do it in places/groups where there are women. As you can see, most of those are not set social circles. In other words, new people will sign up every week/month/whenever. Including new women. So relative to actual social circle game, there's quite an abundance of women available. And a lot of them will be pretty high quality. This basically reaps the benefits of Social Circle whilst minimizing its major downfall (having a very small number of women).

Obviously, in terms of sheer number, cold approach wins any day. But in terms of number of receptive women I think this strategy might win over. Additionally, much like Day Game, these are all things that you would do anyways. He's not saying sign up for a bunch of shit just to meet women. Its just, whatever it is you do in your free time, do it with women. Thoughts?

Here's a link to the podcast if you're interested. http://thematinggrounds.com/where-to-me ... real-life/

 

[ray_zorse]

Tucker Max is awesome, I wouldn't necessarily have thought of him as a dating coach but in terms of "how to be a complete asshole and have women fall at your feet" he is fucking golden. He has pretty good game honed through years of nightgame, casinos and suchlike, also social circle game... he likes hitting on cocktail waitresses at strip clubs too, says they're easier to fuck than strippers (must try this). I assume you've read his autobiographical material?... he does get extremely plastered which I wouldn't advise, but his general DGAF vibe is commendable, very conducive to abundance. Maybe he got sick of nightgame and switched to this semi-social-circle game to net a higher quality? I cannot really see him having the patience to make daygame work... anyway, I suggest to get good at insulting the fuck out of people the way he does, very useful for dealing with cockblocks. Calling a woman fat in a creative way is highly effective and will create mayhem whereever you go. LOVE IT.
Ray

 

[Bboy100]

Yeah, his autobiographical material is gold. Pretty sure its the only series of books that's made me continuously laugh. And I agree, his podcast is mostly horseshit. Like, he's literally said "Yeah, I managed to pickup girls via cold approach, but I'm innately different from you so you shouldn't do that. It'll just fuck your Psychology up and bring you no success". And he also said that being an asshole didn't work for him at all. Which is again, completely incongruent with what he wrote in his books.

Although I have to say, being an asshole for almost no reason like what he did has been one of the most difficult parts of pickup for me. Like...its easy for me if the situation calls for it. But trying to be an asshole in any other situation always makes me feel like an insecure douchebag.

Anyways, I just thought this idea was cool. And also the one on mating markets (same thing as what Chase calls "sexual marketplace") is pretty interesting. I've actually seen that in action. I had a friend who was literally the socially awkward kid with like, 2 friends in HS. And he moved to NYC. I met with him one summer (after like 5 years) and it appears he's honed his game without even reading any pickup material to an at least intermediate if not advanced level (he's better than me in any case). Granted, he also made friends with a bunch of naturals. But he even said that this was the first summer he managed to consistently have sex with girls in the area I live in. Whereas, when he was in NYC, he was pretty much getting laid all throughout. Tucker Max's mating market podcast does a really good job of explaining why and how works.

As for Social Circle: I feel like the 20/80 rule is only applicable to a social circle which is stable and continuous (ex. HS or Frats/Sororities in college). But for things with a bunch of one-time events such as charities or fitness classes (where groups change up once every few weeks or sooner), that might not be the case. Since there might not really be enough time to establish who's an Alpha Male and who's not.
Having said that, you're probably a better authority than me on Social Circle. So maybe I'm wrong?

 

[Big Daddy]

Just gotta add here that his podcast is total bullshit. You know all the awesome pickup he did in his books? Well he basically says "oh don't do any of that. That's only for really crazy charismatic guys!" And then he goes on and says "oh I never really met many women this way, but uh, meet women like this!!" He's a total bullshitter now. Fuck his podcast.

And I agree, his podcast is mostly horseshit. Like, he's literally said "Yeah, I managed to pickup girls via cold approach, but I'm innately different from you so you shouldn't do that. It'll just fuck your Psychology up and bring you no success". And he also said that being an asshole didn't work for him at all. Which is again, completely incongruent with what he wrote in his books.

This provide lots of insight regarding what you guys just said: Tucker Max Gives Up the Game: What Happens When a Bestselling Player Stops Playing?

Being a complete asshole only gets you halfway through, but we knew that already. I can't relate with the guy -- it could be that I'm an insecure douche-bag as Bboy puts it -- I can be an asshole to an extent because it's fun and charming and amusing, but being an complete asshole doesn't ring with me. It could also be that I try to mirror some mindsets of a couple of self-made millionaire friends (or at least in business and doing very well financially) I have and this kind of shitty attitude would quickly fuck them and their businesses so I absorbed that as well.

And I know for a fact that Tucker was a great inspiration to Anatman who is a great inspiration to a lot of us. That said, I think Tucker inflated a lot of his stories, specially after his first best-selling book. It's great to see that kind of attitude caricatured in his books because it opens your mind to new ideas (plus it's entertaining as fuck). But that's it. We got better role models around, and Hector even wrote a 10-part series on how to be an asshole.

@Thread

I like the idea of passively meeting new woman. I think I wouldn't sign up for cooking classes just to meet women -- but I think that was not your intention either, to begin with. Given that I have free time and would like to know how to cook, maybe considering a cooking class that has a higher ratio of women might be interesting, yeah. I like this idea