FR A lot of short skirts, and one wants to back it up on ME?

[MWall]

Went to bombshell sports bar 2 nights in a row to watch NFL (Patrick Mahomes is back), so this is Sunday.

The uniform is extra short skirt with a jersey so it’s basically porn when you walk in there.

And the girls are there to make $$ so I know they are paid to be nice

but also some have boyfriends and some get pulled by guys who are customers.

Sunday last night I am sitting near the drink area where they pick up all their drinks( I talked to like 8 girls who work there) some acted like they were getting into, not sure of thst

I can see all the way up the middle of the bar so I’m checking out the bartenders and talking to them.

Sunday night the bartender Liz got close to me on a real level in my mind when we were dancing at the same time making eye contact while she was working and I was watching the game.

We talked like 8 times.(seemed like more than buisness, like I got past her just working shell to the try to get with me she)

So Iinvited her to dance at this club called barbarella that she says she goes to all the time to dance with me and she screams she is totally down.(the insinuation was that we were going to grind dance together)

i did not get ther contact because I felt that would flake automatically because she probably gets hit on a lot at work. Is there a good way to do this?

and I’m hoping I can visit a few more times and get a solid contact.

also these guys I met were HOOKING me up with free drinks and food.

And one dude offered me a deal to ghosts write the story of his life as a book though he backed out the next day over text.

Happens a lot that people promise things out at night then back out the next day?

THANKS FOR READING,ANY ADVICE OR OBSERVATIONS WELCOME

 

[JacobPalmer]

Totally confused here. You seem to be hitting things off with this girl, but you don't exchange contact information? WHY? Don't assume she's going to flake if things are going well. Just say (after the whole "we should go dancing at xyz place), "Cool do you have a pen and paper?" I'll give you my #. Just be discrete about it.

You gotta man up here.

 

[Hue]

What's the alternative to not getting her contact information? Hoping she just shows up?

Your best chance was to set the date and get her number then. Now you can try again, after reengaging her in conversation, getting the vibe going, and saying "hey we still haven't done barbarella like you wanted.. what are you doing next week?", set hard plans with logistics, get her number and text her about it.


And while I like Jacob's reply overall, you should get her number, not the other way around. Girls are usually bad at starting conversation.

But yes, people do back out on things. You can lower your expectations if you want, but you should act and behave in a way that's going to get you better results, and that means believing they'll come through. If the other person knows you believe this, they'll be less inclined to flake (especially girls on dates).


Hue

 

[JacobPalmer]

What's the alternative to not getting her contact information? Hoping she just shows up?

Your best chance was to set the date and get her number then. Now you can try again, after reengaging her in conversation, getting the vibe going, and saying "hey we still haven't done barbarella like you wanted.. what are you doing next week?", set hard plans with logistics, get her number and text her about it.


And while I like Jacob's reply overall, you should get her number, not the other way around. Girls are usually bad at starting conversation.

But yes, people do back out on things. You can lower your expectations if you want, but you should act and behave in a way that's going to get you better results, and that means believing they'll come through. If the other person knows you believe this, they'll be less inclined to flake (especially girls on dates).


Hue

Yup, agree with Hue here. One thing I want to clarify, usually you want to grab her number, however sometimes I find if she's a hired gun it's just easier giving her yours, as there will be a lot of people watching (other staff, customers etc) and she has a reputation to uphold. In either case, at a minimum, contact info should be exchanged.

 

[MWall]

REALLY LOVE THE value share in your responses Jacob and Elder Hue (and will work on coherence in my posts), this community is supportive and my favorite form of learning social skills.


I am going to start posting loads of field reports: DO YOU GUYS POST IN OTHER FORUMS TO GET MORE RESPONSES? Seems like if i do reports every day they will get ignored?


I am confident with opens and getting good at searching for AI's so at this point I am getting pretty solid with who to open and who to skip . And now almost daily find myself in conversations where the other person is sticking around to see what i am going to talk with them about next.


But not sure where to take it from there so i am just reading more articles.


BUT THAT GIRL IS SO HOT, I just didn't feel I had much chance. So I kind of just take it so far then back off


These days I feel like im accidentally getting girls to a situation where they want to sleep with me in that moment, non verbals a really solid open 2-3 times a week. but if I don't capitalize on it right then it will die out(is what im thinking) && SO i want to get the next steps of solid hooking and leading conversations then to the instant date and that's where I want to rest for awhile getting a lot of friend chills/dates to build social circle and build some status in the city which will help with event promotion.


That is my big plan guys.

 

[JacobPalmer]

"DO YOU GUYS POST IN OTHER FORUMS TO GET MORE RESPONSES?"

I post in 1 other forum. The things I post on GC is my LRs, and on the other forum I post my LRs and text game issues I have for feedback. Generally been getting way better at texting lately though, the results are pretty dramatic.

 

[MWall]

Dude that’s awesome, where do you post for texts? And who have you been learning from?

 

[JacobPalmer]

I post texting issues on the Playing with Fire Forum. They're a bit more underground. Getting to the point where I'm posting a lot less, and helping more. And my posts are generally "here's what I said, what can I say next, can I get some feedback on what's going on so far."

Actually now that I think about, maybe I should make a text thread of examples here in GC.

So just as an example, I redownloaded the dating apps last thursday, and I currently have about 15 leads from online, where we've taken things to text/plans to hangout. Whereas before I'd get the odd date here and there, but most girls would ghost me/stop responding on tinder etc.

 

[MWall]

That is huge tinder progress, can you link me to the forum? I need to lose 40lbs is that why I get ignored on tinder?

 

[JacobPalmer]

That is huge tinder progress, can you link me to the forum? I need to lose 40lbs is that why I get ignored on tinder?

Playing With Fire

Join the #1 Pickup (PUA) forums. Get all of your dating questions answered for free by guys who actually get laid.

forums.playingfire.com

Yup you need spot on pictures unfortunately, but you can lose 40 lbs no problem with a bit of hard work.