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I originally posted this on Francos site a while back and although Francos advice was sound I thought I'd throw it to the GC crew and see what the consensus was. It also gives me a bit of perspective on a few of the posts I've made giving other people advice as I don't want to come across as though I think I'm infalable, because I know I'm not 
So here goes... I posted this a month or so ago I'd haven't really seen her since but on the odd occasion I have she hasn't greeted or acknowledged me, though that is her being true to form...
Franco recently gave a bit of advice on a specific question I had on Chase's website without knowing 'The full story' when I asked for further advice he suggested that I may want to post the story here and let people comment on it. Parts of it are posted elsewhere so if it seems 'familiar' then it probably is.
I'll appologise now for its length, the occasions of one-itisness and my overall slow seduction 'technique'. I'm not at all new at this but there's a few things I trip up on (with certain girls at least) and I was mainly trying to push my way through a few roadblocks which I've more or less accomplished.
Anyway I met this girl.....
I started a while back when I was just messing around being my usual flirty self around work, nobody bothers about it and it's a fairly normal situation, so as usual I said somethinTg flirty to this girl on the way past, (something about not having to pay for being slapped about by girls) and I looked her dead in the eye, and she gave me a look as if she was going to rip off my shirt. My collegue (MrJ) mentioned that he used to goto school with her at that point.
Fast forward a few months and Me, MrJ and Her are walking down the corridor together as part of work, and she's walking pretty close to me and busting his balls a fair bit, with her hard and cocky voice. I'm laughing but not so much as to upset MrJ who (for once) is pretty speechless, (although we have a good laugh later about it). At this point I start to notice something, it's like she's showing off to me and when she talks to me she talks in a much softer tone, and she's walking with me. So I start to wonder if there's some attraction already though I'm not too bothered at that time because well its like the 3rd time I've seen her.
So anyway at the time I was working on my EC so I was eye fucking everything in sight including her, dogs, cats and old ladies. I see her about and she's always giving me solid EC and good body language, so I make it a point to be flirty pretty much all the time I see her, but mostly I give her a friendly hello (as I do most people). She replies politely and a little quietly/softly.
Now me and the lads from work have a night out, and who should be working behind the bar, but this girl. So... Not wanting to upset the gods of fate too much I decide to talk a little and maybe get her no. but I was too far smashed and TBH I thought against disturbing her while she was working (although technically I'm still doing that) so I just get a pint of water, said hello and she asked if I'd "been drinking water all night" which I thought was an amazingly weird question, but replied "nah,
Don't worry I've drunk plenty" and left her to go for a dance. Now I love dancing and I'm pretty good at it, and I'm very loud and noisy when I'm in this frame and dancing, but quite calm, cool and aloof when I'm not. So I look over to her and I'm sure she's watching me (although I was very drunk and my eyesight is not great) and she was wiggling to the music, she looked as if she'd rather be over here. Anyway the night ended and I failed to really do anything but I was enjoying myself anyway so it didn't really matter. A good night was had by all.
So back to work I go expecting to see her sometime during the week, and to be able to get a convo going about 'Saturday night' and hopefully lead it into something, get her no.. Etc etc. but I didn't see her till a few weeks later when I went into her dept. and she walked past a doorway and she must've noticed me out of the corner of her eye, she stepped back, looked at me then carried on going realising I'd 'busted her'. This is when I started to think a bit more about if there was some kind of 'spark' between us, because pretty much from day 1 I'd had a good vibe about this girl, and I dont usually get good vibes about people, just bad ones.
Fast forward again and over the next few weeks we see each other in passing on the corridor and say hello, but oddly we say it exactly the same time like we say it over each other, and whereas before it was a quite quiet, those time is definately getting a bit more enthusiastic, and she has a lively timbre (to put it musically). Now I work on a site with a lot of people and I'm friendly to everyone so I've got a lot of experience of people who are 'interested' (and I use the term loosely) or just being polite, and some
of the better ones, stop and chat, she never does, but never have I experienced someone who has such a brightness. I digress.....anyway a few weeks of this passing in the corridor and never getting an opportunity to actually have a proper chat is starting to frustrate and annoy me, plus I'm starting to get a bit of AA around her, and works stressing me which is really destroying my frame, especially when I'm around her, but I'm holding it together (or at least I think I am).
Oh I forgot for a few weeks now whenever I was in the dept she'd show up every time within a very short time, sometimes she bring a friend along too, and she'd say hello.
So this is where it starts to escalate...
I'm in her dept talking to one of the girls, about work and this is a really friendly type of girl, but also very direct, she appologised for being a bit 'moody' but she's having a bad day, so I'm chatting, and the other girl walks almost right into me (indeed she would've if I hadn't taken a step back) and looks upset/angry, now there's no reason I can see for this other than she was trying to make her presence felt. She could've easily walked behind me but she walked between me and this other girl. So again I'm thinking I was right there is something there..
Now it starts to get a bit off and on, sometimes she ignores me, sometimes she doesn't. Mostly it's around the dept she still shows up but she doesn't say hello, she turns her back on me, she's around to help out but doesn't engage and when I engage she's quiet and non responsive. Bear in mind my confidence is dropping like a lead balloon now, partially from frustration, confusion and bloody work getting on my tits. I needed a break so I book a week off, but before that Me and MrJ are on her dept and she shows up again turns her back on me, so I think 'fuck her' and my mate is hanging around and she engages my mate in convo right in front of me, nothing serious but I don't even look at her, and she walks off after a min or so. So my mate is saying how he'd like to 'tap that thing' and I agree and mention I don't think she's even speaking to me ATM. He asked me what I did, so I reply I've no idea.
Now at this point she either got the idea she'd pushed too far, or something else happened, but either way she was still quiet round where she works but out and about she was ok, she even started putting her phone away when she saw me, to greet me.
Anyway we finally end up walking in the same direction and we're walking together down the corridor and were talking properly I'm talking to her she's responding and enthusiastic. She's telling me how she's finally got a few days off and she asks what I'm upto, so I tell her I'm just waiting for my next job and I'm having a walk about, proper 50/50 convo. So it's all good, her BL is good, she's looking me in the eye when she's speaks, were walking in time with each other. We get to her dept and she leaves and I carry on walking, say goodbye etc.
So she's still acting weird when she's on the dept but out and about she's the same as she ever was. I'm starting to think she's doing it when certain people are around but I've yet to work out who, and it's not any of the guys, because there's been the odd occasion when I've been around the guys and her and not in the dept. and she's been ok, a few of the girls off there too, so it ain't that..... There was an incident the other day when I walked on the dept, walks right next to her, made a cup of tea behind her, and not a blink from her, but I can tell she's nervous then crash bang she drops a load of cutlery behind me. I finish my tea and walk off.
And now to convo no.2 were walking together off the dept and I'm getting a bit jumpy today, maybe because I know were going to be walking alone and anyway she's almost bumping into me as she walks, her comfort zone is 0, which I dont mind, but it's slightly unnerving and
she ask me straight out If I'm married, so I admit that I am,
So again straight out, "you got kids?"
so I says no.
so again she's like "how come?".
I just say "it's complicated",
Her: "but you want them right?"
Me: "that not the complicated part"
So anyway we get to where we're going, I say goodbye and leave for about 20mins and come back to pick her up. We just make a bit of small talk about work and were walking back when another collegue walks down the corridor, he's a bit dopey but a nice lad, so he blurts out "what are you two doing together?". I just laugh and he walks past and I make a joke about him starting rumour, and she said something like "that's not likely, I'm gay". Now I can't exactly say what face I made, but it wasn't exactly shock because I wasn't really that shocked (nothing really shocks me) but I think I just looked her in the eye and smiled. So at not receiving much of a reaction we just carried on until she saw her collegue and all 3 of us are walking back but she's walking right up against me almost bumping me up the corridor, and we get back to her dept. and nothing really changed.
So that's pretty much it, except to say we had a similar 'occasion' a few days after and everything was really relaxed, but again she was pressing right up against me
as she walked, so much so she tripped over me at one point.
And the strangest thing is, despite me not really spending any time, most I saw her was really 5-10mins at any time, other than when we talked. She's actually doing what I'd want, she's keeping things low key, she knows I'm married, so there's no need to break that bomb shell. Im no longer getting nervous at all.
Thoughts?
So here goes... I posted this a month or so ago I'd haven't really seen her since but on the odd occasion I have she hasn't greeted or acknowledged me, though that is her being true to form...
Franco recently gave a bit of advice on a specific question I had on Chase's website without knowing 'The full story' when I asked for further advice he suggested that I may want to post the story here and let people comment on it. Parts of it are posted elsewhere so if it seems 'familiar' then it probably is.
I'll appologise now for its length, the occasions of one-itisness and my overall slow seduction 'technique'. I'm not at all new at this but there's a few things I trip up on (with certain girls at least) and I was mainly trying to push my way through a few roadblocks which I've more or less accomplished.
Anyway I met this girl.....
I started a while back when I was just messing around being my usual flirty self around work, nobody bothers about it and it's a fairly normal situation, so as usual I said somethinTg flirty to this girl on the way past, (something about not having to pay for being slapped about by girls) and I looked her dead in the eye, and she gave me a look as if she was going to rip off my shirt. My collegue (MrJ) mentioned that he used to goto school with her at that point.
Fast forward a few months and Me, MrJ and Her are walking down the corridor together as part of work, and she's walking pretty close to me and busting his balls a fair bit, with her hard and cocky voice. I'm laughing but not so much as to upset MrJ who (for once) is pretty speechless, (although we have a good laugh later about it). At this point I start to notice something, it's like she's showing off to me and when she talks to me she talks in a much softer tone, and she's walking with me. So I start to wonder if there's some attraction already though I'm not too bothered at that time because well its like the 3rd time I've seen her.
So anyway at the time I was working on my EC so I was eye fucking everything in sight including her, dogs, cats and old ladies. I see her about and she's always giving me solid EC and good body language, so I make it a point to be flirty pretty much all the time I see her, but mostly I give her a friendly hello (as I do most people). She replies politely and a little quietly/softly.
Now me and the lads from work have a night out, and who should be working behind the bar, but this girl. So... Not wanting to upset the gods of fate too much I decide to talk a little and maybe get her no. but I was too far smashed and TBH I thought against disturbing her while she was working (although technically I'm still doing that) so I just get a pint of water, said hello and she asked if I'd "been drinking water all night" which I thought was an amazingly weird question, but replied "nah,
Don't worry I've drunk plenty" and left her to go for a dance. Now I love dancing and I'm pretty good at it, and I'm very loud and noisy when I'm in this frame and dancing, but quite calm, cool and aloof when I'm not. So I look over to her and I'm sure she's watching me (although I was very drunk and my eyesight is not great) and she was wiggling to the music, she looked as if she'd rather be over here. Anyway the night ended and I failed to really do anything but I was enjoying myself anyway so it didn't really matter. A good night was had by all.
So back to work I go expecting to see her sometime during the week, and to be able to get a convo going about 'Saturday night' and hopefully lead it into something, get her no.. Etc etc. but I didn't see her till a few weeks later when I went into her dept. and she walked past a doorway and she must've noticed me out of the corner of her eye, she stepped back, looked at me then carried on going realising I'd 'busted her'. This is when I started to think a bit more about if there was some kind of 'spark' between us, because pretty much from day 1 I'd had a good vibe about this girl, and I dont usually get good vibes about people, just bad ones.
Fast forward again and over the next few weeks we see each other in passing on the corridor and say hello, but oddly we say it exactly the same time like we say it over each other, and whereas before it was a quite quiet, those time is definately getting a bit more enthusiastic, and she has a lively timbre (to put it musically). Now I work on a site with a lot of people and I'm friendly to everyone so I've got a lot of experience of people who are 'interested' (and I use the term loosely) or just being polite, and some
of the better ones, stop and chat, she never does, but never have I experienced someone who has such a brightness. I digress.....anyway a few weeks of this passing in the corridor and never getting an opportunity to actually have a proper chat is starting to frustrate and annoy me, plus I'm starting to get a bit of AA around her, and works stressing me which is really destroying my frame, especially when I'm around her, but I'm holding it together (or at least I think I am).
Oh I forgot for a few weeks now whenever I was in the dept she'd show up every time within a very short time, sometimes she bring a friend along too, and she'd say hello.
So this is where it starts to escalate...
I'm in her dept talking to one of the girls, about work and this is a really friendly type of girl, but also very direct, she appologised for being a bit 'moody' but she's having a bad day, so I'm chatting, and the other girl walks almost right into me (indeed she would've if I hadn't taken a step back) and looks upset/angry, now there's no reason I can see for this other than she was trying to make her presence felt. She could've easily walked behind me but she walked between me and this other girl. So again I'm thinking I was right there is something there..
Now it starts to get a bit off and on, sometimes she ignores me, sometimes she doesn't. Mostly it's around the dept she still shows up but she doesn't say hello, she turns her back on me, she's around to help out but doesn't engage and when I engage she's quiet and non responsive. Bear in mind my confidence is dropping like a lead balloon now, partially from frustration, confusion and bloody work getting on my tits. I needed a break so I book a week off, but before that Me and MrJ are on her dept and she shows up again turns her back on me, so I think 'fuck her' and my mate is hanging around and she engages my mate in convo right in front of me, nothing serious but I don't even look at her, and she walks off after a min or so. So my mate is saying how he'd like to 'tap that thing' and I agree and mention I don't think she's even speaking to me ATM. He asked me what I did, so I reply I've no idea.
Now at this point she either got the idea she'd pushed too far, or something else happened, but either way she was still quiet round where she works but out and about she was ok, she even started putting her phone away when she saw me, to greet me.
Anyway we finally end up walking in the same direction and we're walking together down the corridor and were talking properly I'm talking to her she's responding and enthusiastic. She's telling me how she's finally got a few days off and she asks what I'm upto, so I tell her I'm just waiting for my next job and I'm having a walk about, proper 50/50 convo. So it's all good, her BL is good, she's looking me in the eye when she's speaks, were walking in time with each other. We get to her dept and she leaves and I carry on walking, say goodbye etc.
So she's still acting weird when she's on the dept but out and about she's the same as she ever was. I'm starting to think she's doing it when certain people are around but I've yet to work out who, and it's not any of the guys, because there's been the odd occasion when I've been around the guys and her and not in the dept. and she's been ok, a few of the girls off there too, so it ain't that..... There was an incident the other day when I walked on the dept, walks right next to her, made a cup of tea behind her, and not a blink from her, but I can tell she's nervous then crash bang she drops a load of cutlery behind me. I finish my tea and walk off.
And now to convo no.2 were walking together off the dept and I'm getting a bit jumpy today, maybe because I know were going to be walking alone and anyway she's almost bumping into me as she walks, her comfort zone is 0, which I dont mind, but it's slightly unnerving and
she ask me straight out If I'm married, so I admit that I am,
So again straight out, "you got kids?"
so I says no.
so again she's like "how come?".
I just say "it's complicated",
Her: "but you want them right?"
Me: "that not the complicated part"
So anyway we get to where we're going, I say goodbye and leave for about 20mins and come back to pick her up. We just make a bit of small talk about work and were walking back when another collegue walks down the corridor, he's a bit dopey but a nice lad, so he blurts out "what are you two doing together?". I just laugh and he walks past and I make a joke about him starting rumour, and she said something like "that's not likely, I'm gay". Now I can't exactly say what face I made, but it wasn't exactly shock because I wasn't really that shocked (nothing really shocks me) but I think I just looked her in the eye and smiled. So at not receiving much of a reaction we just carried on until she saw her collegue and all 3 of us are walking back but she's walking right up against me almost bumping me up the corridor, and we get back to her dept. and nothing really changed.
So that's pretty much it, except to say we had a similar 'occasion' a few days after and everything was really relaxed, but again she was pressing right up against me
as she walked, so much so she tripped over me at one point.
And the strangest thing is, despite me not really spending any time, most I saw her was really 5-10mins at any time, other than when we talked. She's actually doing what I'd want, she's keeping things low key, she knows I'm married, so there's no need to break that bomb shell. Im no longer getting nervous at all.
Thoughts?
