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Paulie Walnuts

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Title get your attention? Thought it might haha, so yes I really was accused of "rape" by a pack of screaming, crazy women; but I'll tell you the story and you'll back me just like 95% of the party did.

I also need to state at the beginning here that the AGE OF CONSENT IN MY STATE IS 16 NO IFS, BUTS ABOUT IT! Obviously I try to avoid high school girls as much as possible (for the drama they cause) but IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW WHATSOEVER!!! Many guys in my age group (22) DO HOOKUP WITH YOUNGER GIRLS INCLUDING HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS!!! Also I have to say I look much older than I am, 27-28 if I don't shave and 24-25 if I do.

So I decided to go to a party in my hometown (which is like the Beverly Hills of WA state) FIRST MISTAKE!!! It's a very cliquey city to say the least, full of rich kids with not much else to do but cause random drama. A very good friend of mine had just moved into a house with four roommates, all of whom are extremely good friends of mine save one. I brought one of my older friends, which was probably a mistake too as he looks a bit older and this party was mostly high school kids/early college. Originally the party was only supposed to be college kids (from my understanding) but someone invited the younger crowd. I get there and I get the usual approach anxiety when I first start my night game, but after getting some social momentum together I start talking to girls.

Pull one and lead her outside for a bit, smoke a cig with her, deep dive a bit and number close. She didn't seem SUPER interested and I figure it's not worth pursuing.

Now things GET INTERESTING, I start talking to this INCREDIBLY ATTRACTIVE blonde (who looks like she's 20ish and is one of those blonde bombshell types) and she's super into me, I put my arm around her and we take some snapchats, she shows me her instagram and tells me how the girl who's with her in the photos has started modeling for playboy or some shit like that. I find out she's a photographer and is super into it. I tell her she should be my new years kiss and another guy (who's a shit wingman, but is trying to help) starts saying something about her "fat booty" which I agree with. Shitty Wingman tells me I should "def fuck her tonight, because she's super down" (pretty much verbatim) I tell her to come hit my vape with me outside (don't grab her hand though, kind of a mistake as some girl starts talking to her while I head outside, sit there for a minute then go back in and pull her out with me). We sit down on the couch and she IMMEDIATELY sits super close (like cuddling) with her legs on my lap. We talk for a bit and I still have some anxiety but I hide it well and deep dive a bit more (she seems tipsy but still VERY FUNCTIONING). As we're talking she grabs the blanket on the couch and pulls it over us, I take this as a good sign and look deep into her eyes and when she moves a bit closer I start making out with her hard, IN FRONT OF EVERYONE! I stop kissing her and we start kind of chatting again, I slowly start moving my hand up her leg (under the blanket) and start feeling her ass. She seems pretty into it, pulls me close and starts kissing me again. I start rubbing my hands on the outside of her panties (underwear or whatever couldn't really tell what she had on under there), she starts lightly moaning and is still kissing me, so I figure I should go for it and slide my hand under her panties and start fingering her (WHEN THE BLANKET KIND OF SLIPS SHE EVEN TELLS ME "I'M BEING OBVIOUS" WHILE GIGGLING AND PULLING THE BLANKET BACK ON!!!). Keep in mind there's like 15 people outside who see everything (they can't see me fingering her but they see us making out and her kind of moaning, the way a girl does when you make her horny). While I'm fingering her I tell her she should come back to my place, she tells me she can't because her friends are here, I say "they won't mind we'll be gone for 20 minutes ;)". She pulls me close and starts kissing me again (pay attention to this she's pulled me close and kissed me TWICE NOW), then... AND HERE'S THE KICKER, SHE FUCKING SUGGEST GOING UPSTAIRS, NOT ME!!!! I say "sure haha", she tells me she will go first and I should follow her up there (I think this is important too, I think she was trying to avoid being labeled a slut and being found out by her friends). So I wait about a minute (all with random people telling me I should fuck her and the girl next to me (who will become a bigger part of the story later) making thrusting motions saying "GO FOR IT!").

I head upstairs and she's waiting on the staircase, I tell her "let's go" and we walk upstairs and I direct her into the bathroom and she says "Noooo let's use a bedroom" but I of course want to be respectful of the houseowners, luckily the friend who invited me (who's party it is) sees me and says I can USE A ROOM, he (we'll call him C) let's me into the door on the right. I tell him he is my new best friend, (KEEP IN MIND THE GIRL IS TOTALLY DOWN FOR THIS AND IS STANDING IN THERE SMILING!!!). I close the door and start making out with her, pull her onto the bed and start sucking on her breasts. I start fingering her and taking off her skirt like garment, I do this for a few minutes (AND SHE IS GETTING SUPER INTO IT AND KEEPS PULLING ME CLOSE AND MAKING OUT WITH ME!!!). I pull off my pants, my dick isn't hard whatsoever (because I'm anxious) and as I start fingering her again, TWO FUCKING CHICKS BARGE IN AND START TELLING ME OFF!!! Saying things like "She's super drunk!" (she wasn't at all lol I saw her walking and talking just fine), "I know my friend she didn't want to fuck you" (bullshit again :), her idea to go upstairs), and finally when I'm telling them "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?" I get the "SHE'S UNDERAGE!!!", I get worried that she was 15 or something, I find out that she's 17 lol. I tell the girls the Age of Consent in WA state is 16, regardless of the other person's age. They continue chewing me out and another house owner runs in (we'll call him J). He tells me I need to leave the room as it's actually his and his girlfriend's (we'll call her O), so C had led me into the wrong room. I leave said room and see the two girls who barged in bring the girl I was hooking up with (and apparently raping WTF??) to the bathroom.

I'm a little shell shocked at this point and my hearts beating a little fast, I go out into the party and tell pretty much everyone my side of the story. From here when the girls leave they start telling EVERYONE THAT I TRIED TO RAPE THE GIRL I WAS HOOKING UP WITH. NOT ONLY THAT THE GIRL I WAS HOOKING UP WITH (probably to avoid slut shaming) STARTS SAYING THE SAME THING (from what I hear from other people anyway I didn't speak to her again until the end of the night).

LITERALLY EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME, LITERALLY EVERYONE I TOLD AGREES THAT IT WASN'T RAPE AND THEY SAW THIS GIRL BASICALLY LEAD ME UPSTAIRS. I think people would have been a bit angrier if I was truly raping this girl? Her friends included don't say shit, if someone tried to rape one of my friends (if I DID the platonic girlfriends thing) I'd fucking kill them. Lol like wtf? Apart from a few sarcastic words about how the girl was 17 her friends don't really say anything other than try to tell EVERYONE ELSE that I raped the girl -_-.

So anyway I'm kind of pissed off right now, remember the girl next to me when I was pulling? The one who made the thrusting motions and said go for it? So now she (we'll call her M) accosts me upstairs and starts telling me because I'm older people are uncomfortable or something. I tell her they can come talk to me but if it's truly an issue I'll leave, she pulls me downstairs and we smoke a cigarette and she starts telling me I should only go for 18 year olds. I say obviously but what I did wasn't against the law whatsoever (nor distasteful really, why is this even an issue?) One of the friends who barged in on me comes outside and sits down, I speak directly to her (even though M keeps trying to interrupt) and say "Did that look like rape to you? Are you fucking kidding me?" She says verbatim "Nobody is accusing you of rape". She tells me we are on good terms and leaves (I don't think a friend would say "yes we're on good terms" if I had truly done something wrong, dunno I'm def not down with being cool with a rapist).

I go back upstairs preparing to leave, I tell the house owners (including my drunk friend D) that I'm leaving because M is saying people are uncomfortable. The house owners and D say "WTF who is trying to kick you out??" I tell them it's M, they go have a talk with her and she comes back and says she'll leave it alone and it's sorted. I now kind of get to enjoy the party a bit though obviously my game is now off (I think being accused of rape would do that to anyone), EVERYONE IS TOTALLY FUCKING COOL WITH ME, they all say the same thing, the girls have been trying to tell them that I raped the 17 year old but nobody believes it and just calls them "being bitchy girls". I say I don't think this is ok whatsoever and shows how skewed our culture is, but I'm glad they believe me as this could have been MUCH WORSE, which is fucked up because I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG! I find a couple cute girls and start chatting with them, my wingman who I've brought out before just happens to be there (though his game hasn't improved whatsoever), and is trying to chat up the girls. He is failing miserably, I pop one of their numbers and somehow still am able to come off suave as fuck (she even said I was "suave as fuck" VERBATIM). After I get that girls number they start talking about how 12 AM is approaching and that they should be each other's kiss, I tell the girl who's number I popped's friend that she is gorgeous and she should be my New Years Kiss. She gives me some resistance but then comes and starts kissing me, I tell her that it's the practice one because it's now 11:59, the countdown starts and as it hits one I end the year in a beautiful makeout with the girl (a very attractive brunette). We continue to kiss after but then she pulls away, I don't follow (my game is still completely off because of the earlier situation), her other SUPER HOT brunette Italian friend comes up and starts talking about how good a kisser she is. I tell her "Prove it" and she comes and starts making out with me, I tell her she is a great kisser and I want to grab coffee with her, pull her number in front of the one I just made out with and the one who's number I pulled. I invite her home with me but she says she has to be home.

Now I see those 2 girls who barged in earlier glaring daggers at me, it occurs to me that I should stop running game for the night as this may be making me look worse. M comes up AGAIN and tells me that I need to leave, this time I have a conversation with the one houseowner I don't know (who is apparently the one who wants me to leave), about what happened in the situation. She tells me just to keep it over 18 at her party and to not fuck anyone here, I agree with this. Random other things happen throughout the night, I speak with the other girl who barged in, I ask her if she really thought it was rape. She tells me she's not mad anymore, doesn't like me but just to let the situation die. I say fine, but it wasn't rape and anyone who says it was is a fucking liar. (I think I kept bringing it up because I was so ridiculously shocked this would even happen, blows my fucking mind).

Anyways around 1:30ish things start to die off, lots of people leave. I've made many friends tonight and lots of them come to say goodbye to me. I decide to pee before I leave, the bathroom is closed. A couple of my drunk friends wander over and start to talk to me, we hear voices in the room where I was hooking up with the girl; one of them decides to open the door and walk in. When the door opens I hear "I fucking hate that guy" and "God I want to fucking kill him", somehow I knew they were talking about me so I walk in and confront them, on my feet and as a man as I always do. I walk in the room and see the blonde (the girl I apparently "raped" hide her face when I walk in, STILL WITH A FUCKING SMILE ON HER FACE). The two girls who barged in are in bed with her, there is another girl I've chatted with before in the night in there along with a guy who was making out with one of the girls who barged in (the one from when M was talking with me outside). It was a tense situation and I'm not sure exactly what I said but I can give you the gist of the convo (my adrenaline was pumping with the "I want to kill him" statement): I believe I questioned the "rape" again and said something about her leading ME UPSTAIRS. I make direct eye contact with the one's that are saying shit about me, I'm not afraid of them, I've done nothing wrong; if I had done something wrong I know I'd have looked away or something like that. I have a very strong sense of justice and if I believe something is wrong I won't do it. I also said "Who are you going to kill" in a sardonic tone, since I knew none of them would touch me and I was unafraid of them doing so even if they did. It's strange, everytime I was around they wouldn't confront me (cowards), they just wanted to say shit behind my back. Finally while we're glaring at each other, the girl that wasn't in the bed says "Hey we're sorry, they're just trying to pass out in here, it's for the girls; and people are just nervous because you're older" (I WASN'T EVEN THE OLDEST ONE THERE, THERE WERE 2 27-28 YEAR OLDS, PLUS C'S PARENTS IN THEIR 40'S, PLUS A COUPLE GUYS MY AGE!!!). J (one of the house owners) who's come in while we were glaring at eachother says, "Hey bro just leave it, they're just stupid bitchy girls" or something like that). I concur with his assessment and leave the room, saying "Fuck you bitches" as I leave.

I've finally had enough, I tell all my mates that I'm leaving. EVERYONE THERE GIVES ME HUGS AND TELLS ME THEY'RE SORRY I HAVE TO GO (do people normally act that way to rapists, nuh uh I don't think so). I'm mad as hell and my adrenaline is still pumping but I hide it well, I head to my car and call my backup girl for the night (a new girl I'd popped today on OKcupid, not the same one from the earlier LR). Unfortunately she is drunk and spending the night at wherever she is, I ask her if she wants to hookup before she leaves for school in a couple days (her interest was falling anyway and at this point I didn't really care so I was just super direct, I also said no worries if she didn't). She says she can't and is sorry, I don't bother texting back, now I'm home and typing up this massive fucking report.

So... anyone have any advice or tips on this one? I thought I handled it pretty well, didn't freak out and punch anyone; though I REALLY wanted too (getting accused of rape will do that to ya). I kept my emotions in check, made sure everyone had my side of the story; and stood up for myself as I always have. I KNOW I didn't do anything wrong, other than maybe being a bit disrespectful by using someone's room who wasn't down with it. I really want to text the blonde tomorrow (got her number as I told her I'd take her for coffee before the "incident") and ask her "What the fuck??" Like I was totally going to ask her to coffee (and tell her that her friends are nutjobs), before I found out that SHE HERSELF WAS NOW TELLING PEOPLE I RAPED HER!!! This is a pretty fucked up situation to be honest, obviously I would rather her not report it (dealing with cops and courts takes a lot of time, and though everyone at that party backed me up, things can AND do change in court, even though I've done NOTHING wrong). Kind of why I'm writing this tbh, making sure I've got the truth straight and written down, in case something happens. I'm really fucking pissed right now, I won't let this make me bitter but jesus, what a FUCK OF A SITUATION!
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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Write down every detail of the interaction down on paper and save it in multiple formats, just like you did here, but more extensively.

I've had friends deal with FRAs, but they were all processed through the university system. Firstly, those horrible cunts knew the police wouldn't believe them, especially considering they didn't come forward until 7+ months after the "rape." Also, the university will protect women pretty much no matter what considering recent pressure from the White House and the creation of the sexual assault task-force. Schools are being threatened with funding cuts if they don't give the government the balls of men involved in sexual assault claims, whether they're truly guilty or not. Plus schools use the "preponderance of evidence" standard, which means the investigators only need to be 51% sure of fault to kick you out of school, rather than the 95% of criminal courts, "beyond a reasonable doubt." Much easier for the school to show the federal government progress with easier cases. Also the people who investigate this shit don't have law degrees. They're random professors and administrators who like to think they know legalese.

That being said, this ISN'T at a school, which is great. She would have to actually file a police report, which is hard enough for ACTUAL rape victims, let alone a liar. Then the county's prosecuting attorney would have to consider it a winnable case. From what you've written, there's a very little chance they'll file a report, let alone would a prosecuting attorney accept the case.

You're likely very, very okay. It's great that you smashed any and all misunderstandings at the party and got people on your side. Now people will do the work for you and protect your reputation. Obviously, don't contact this girl or her friends, UNLESS you hear that she's on a mission to destroy your reputation. Then it would be appropriate to write a thorough text to her explaining that you will file a defamation suit against her if she doesn't stop. Usually the guilty just run away and hide; the innocent either remain quiet but still (think how a monk might deal with this) or they rage against their enemy with a righteous fury.

- Hector
 

Paulie Walnuts

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@Anatman, Thanks for the advice! The first thing I did when I came home was write this report (and save it onto a word document as well).

I smashed as many misunderstandings as I could before I left, I REALLY, REALLY wanted to leave immediately after what happened (because I was REALLY uncomfortable), but 1. That's what guilty men do (or people who are afraid to stand up for themselves), they run. 2. I wasn't going to let this pack of silly girls ruin my night. I'm very lucky this was a GOOD friend's party (as well as knowing and being pretty cool with most people there), I feel the situation could have turned out completely differently if I didn't know the people there PLUS, I'm known as a real stand up guy; who is also narcissistic to a fault and egomaniacal as hell (And I've stated many times around this crew I would NEVER do shit with a girl who wasn't interested in me). It's just a little scary as this has never happened to me before, I've hooked up with many, MANY women and nothing even comes close to this situation.

Crazy how people were telling me to go for it, she lead me upstairs, WAS SUPER INTO EVERYTHING I WAS DOING, and this can still happen? I'm still shell shocked honestly.

You're right about the no contact part, I wanted to text her asking what the fuck her issue was but that would probably just make the situation worse. I'm also a little worried because my town and it's inhabitants are extremely wealthy and tend to get lots of people involved to create drama over stupid shit, but as you said I spoke with almost everyone there. The only people on her side were the three girls in the room with her before I left and random guy trying to hookup with her friend. Random guy didn't say shit to me, and I spoke directly with both her friends (at different times through the night) and told them what was what. Everyone else (including the few who wanted me to leave) backed me, I'm just at a loss as to why they didn't throw these stupid bitches out! Really shows how fucked society is that it's slightly ok with the public to make false rape accusations and it'll be said "girls are just being girls".

I also like the advice about the slander/defamation suit, I was thinking about pursuing that already, but it's probably best to let the issue die right now. If it does become an issue later (she tries to destroy my rep, files charges, etc.) I will most def sue the fucking shit out of her, I'm not taking a plea deal or anything like that either, I'd rather be locked in a cell for the rest of my life than plead guilty to something I didn't do (especially something like this).
 

Rage

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I think you handled it really well; and you didn't deck the girls or fucking shit on them any other way too that sounded tempting but you kept your cool.

I was reading along and was like "i would do this here" and then you went and did that dude haha; so I think you're all good.

Cheers

Rage
 

tvktvk

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Dude, that shit pisses me off. I would have not handled those kind of accusations as well as you did, I have quite the temper.
However, I would've been much more discreet with the girl and I think you could have avoided some of that shit if you hadn't started escalating in front of everyone.
Sure it's a lotta fun not giving a fuck, but since people are lame there may sometimes be repercussions. I'm pretty sure you've got nothing to worry about,
but I would def do what Hector reccomended.

tvktvk
 
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Paulie Walnuts

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Trust me guys I wanted to start screaming and punching everyone in sight, I'm known as an extremely diplomatic person that handles tense situations very well; but I have a temper too. I really don't know how I managed to keep my cool, I'm just glad I did.

@tvktvk, you're damn right about the discretion thing haha, I'm pretty sure the ENTIRE thing could have been avoided if I'd isolated first and then escalated. I'm still rather new at this so my thinking was I didn't want to miss the opportunity, plus I assumed I wouldn't get haters and I'd instead get social cred. plus preselection. It... kind of worked as far as making me more attractive to a few girls there, but with all the haters and the chicks telling people I'd "raped" her worked much more negatively on that than positively. I actually came out of the bathroom to M WARNING TWO GIRLS THAT HAD JUST ARRIVED ABOUT ME SPECIFICALLY. I couldn't fucking believe what her issue was (she tried lying and saying she was warning them about "older people"), she tried cornering me later on too and demanding that I consider her a "friend" or a "homie" which I told her I don't do with women period.

I learned my lesson though, don't deal with immature girls with even more immature friends (not necessarily a high school girl issue, I've met girls 17-18 who are more than capable of being chill). Also isolate before ya escalate, avoid rooms at parties since in my experience this hasn't worked well. I live with my parents so I can't pull to my place (they're Muslim and rather conservative), but that doesn't mean I can't pull to hers ;), or worse come to worse my car!
 
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