FR Almost….Married athletic girl

[BarryS1]

This is the closest I’ve ever been to dating an athletic married girl. I layed a married girl when I first started approaching, but have not had any experiences since. This girl caused me to blank out a couple times b/c she was hot and nice to talk to. When a girl has the both combined, I start to loose it. Like I swear this is the 3rd time this summer

I worked from home today and went to a department store to run some errands at 12pm. I was wearing fashionable tight jeans, a green express shirt with artwork, white rubber watch, yellow armstrong band, and van shoes. Also, I returned from LA on Sunday so I am SUPER, SUPER tan.

This was my first opener of the day, so it was really rocky….There were soo may attractive older girls I had trouble picking one. I would set my sights on one and get distracted and go for another one. I changed my mind 8 times before choosing a white girl in her 30s with black hair, wide/tonned ass, and a peach workout top. She had not fat, but was thick from genetics and a HUGE ass. I pre-opened by touching the elbow in the middle of the aisle while she was texting on her phone. Her response was not immediate, but when she looked around, I did not look at her. There were tons of people around and I am sure 5+ people were within 10ft. earshot of my opener, but who cares The entire conversation, I tried talking in a low voice b/c there were so many people around.

Me: Oh, hello.

Girl: (Looks at me unsurprised) Um, hi.

Me: I saw you walking by earlier (pause) (her mouth starts to open) and I couldn’t help but notice your attractive workout outfit.

Girl: Oh, thanks! (Modest demeanor and big smile)

Me: (I spaced out for a good 1.5 sec) I’m Barry by the way (extends hand)

Girl: Hiiiiii, I’m X. (Bubbly voice and warm expression)

Me: I should of brought a cart like you, I can barely hold on to these re-usable water bottles.

Girl: They do help! I need to stock up for my kids.

Me: People like us in the suburbs need to stock up on food for our big houses.

Girl: Yeah! We are in the suburbs!

Me: (I spaced out for 1 sec. again) Wow, we are blocking the aisle, lets move over here.

(We both move over to another place 5 ft. away)

Girl: Thank you for the compliment on my outfit (Trying to excuse herself)

Me: Did you just come back running from the gym?

Girl: (She explains that she did, but usually runs on the street)

Me: (I blank out again b/c I’m so turned on) Are you single by the way?

Girl: I’m married unfortunately. No, I don’t mean unfortunately but I am married with kids. (She stumbled and hushed her voice and got embarrassed by putting her hand to her face)

Me: How old are the kids? (Trying to get a picture of how strained her life is - maybe I can leverage this)

Girl: 4 years and the other is 15 m.o.’s

Me: Well, that’s great you still go to the gym. (Trying to lighten the mood) You seem athletic, but I’m into girls who can run like….5 miles at a time on the treadmill.

Girl: (She starts to explain how she likes running, but her passion is powerlifting - not the olympic type but the clean/jerk clean/raise stuff. She talks for a couple minutes about the difference between the two and how she misses it.)

Me: Wow, we keep blocking up the aisle. Lets go over hear.

Girl: Do you wanna walk with me? I’m going over there.

Me: Sure lets go! Hold on, (pregnant pause) what am I your errand-slave? (We start to move)

Girl: That’s would be nice, I need the help! (We are still walking)

Me: Oh, thank you. Damn, I left my slave loincloth at home though! This outfit won’t work.

Girl: (Laughs, so I decide to change the subject to working out and she talks about protein and her favorite types)

(We arrive at the diaper aisle)

Me: Are you Italian by the way? You are really tan!

Girl: I’m half Italian and half Spanish. Yeah, I am really tan (sheepish expression and starts looking at her arms and shoulders)

Me: Then you are JUST latina enough for me then! (Pinching her arm softly) (Thanks Zphix for this qualifier!!!!!!)

Girl: (Laughs and looks at me softly with eyes that say, "take me you f#$%-ing hot piece of meat. I wanna throw you on the ground and give your face a lap dance").

Me: I’m kinda tan too, but that’s because I just came from LA. (Holds my arm out) You are naturally tan though, your skin doesn’t change color when I do this (pokes her arm and she giggles).

Girl: Yeah, it never does that!

Me: Try me (Hold my arm out and she pokes it - making the arm change color).

Girl: You did get a sunburn!!

Me: You know, we should grab a protein shake at X sometime. (X is a famous juice bar in my area)

Girl: (Explains how she can’t b/c she’s on a strict calorie diet and can’t change anything. She can’t get a smoothie from the juice bar b/c it isn’t healthy enough.)

Me: What do you like then?

Girl: (Stars explaining the healthy grocery stores she likes

Me: How about we go to Whole Foods and grab a shake? They have tons of healthy stuff.

Girl: Unfortunately, I can’t. No, I mean, not unfortunately (stumbles with her words again). Ok, two reasons. I am married and I have kids. (Tries to put her foot down)

Me: How long have you been married?

Girl: 8 years (repeats the age of her kids again)

Me: That’s a long time….Wouldn’t it be nice to have a breath of fresh air?

Girl: This IS my breath of fresh air (starts to get mean and ignores me by looking at the diapers)

Me: (I am silent for 3 sec.)

Girl: I can’t, I’m sorry (Leans on her cart and looks at me with the soft eyes again)

Me: Sure.

Girl: (Explains how she has to hurry up and get going. She changed to a mean tone of voice again that made me uncomfortable.)

(We exchange pleasantries saying goodbye. I even ask for a hug goodbye, but she says no)




Overview:

I am tightening up the nuts and bolts for hitting on girls with boyfriends and husbands. This is almost the EXACT same conversation that I had with the filipina from this FR, except that I went direct and pre-opened. Here’s the link: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6817

I took all of Chase’s advice and applied them here. I got further than last time. I SHOULDN’T have asked about the marriage again at the end!!! I was hoping to use leverage with my “breath of fresh air” comment, but I gave her a logical objection. Next time, I should only deep-dive on her relationship ONCE in the BEGINNING of the conversation and ignore her logical objections at the end.

 

[Rage]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

This was solid as fuck!!... and sounds like one of those approaches you have where after your interaction ends and after, you can’t stop thinking “arghhh she wanted me so bad/it was so close/she was so hot!!!!”; she was really into you it seemed.

Something that I’ve done a few times that I think you could have done with this one was to frame it as “we’ll be friends”

That interaction would go like:

Milf: I’m married :/ I can’t

Barry: oh ok, well let’s be friends (said with sexy smile); what you’re not allowed to have friends? (and with a little playful tug maybe) come on lets go get that shake, you were just getting to be so interesting.. come on one friendly chat couldn’t hurt

Milf: well all right

…

And hopefully that would continue on with you going on the insta-date with the lady and deep diving her well and her opening up to you about all her worries and forgotten ambitions and dreams and stuff… she’d open up a lot more and maybe open up down there too (a little ways down the road).

If you’ve seen wolf of wall street, it was the scene before this scene (where they fuck for 11 seconds Lol) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iXaknSqANY

where:

Naomi: I was surprised you asked Rebecca for my number

Jordan: why

Naomi: Well you’re married aren’t you?

Jordan: Yeah… so … married people can’t have friends? (said with sexy smile)

Naomi: You wanna be friends?

Jordan: Yeah, what you don’t wanna be my friend?

Naomi: … we’re not gonna be friends (said suggestively)

It’s a line I’ve used to become friends with older milfs at my gym (but never made progress with that; the problem being that they just get added to my social circle and just periodically flirt with me then which achieves nothing results-wise).

-Gem

p.s. There’s a milf at night, that I’m “friends” with too and she has the sort of ass you describe dude (and they really are genetically gifted, I probably should aim to end up with a girl with good genes like that so my son gets a better chance at getting good lifting genes) you just wanna take a measuring tape to it and measure dat ass!! Could be 50 inches even it almost looks like; I asked my “friend” and she says in her country you gotta have an ass like that and they sort of compete to have the best one (supposedly)… Lol

 

[BarryS1]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

This was solid as fuck!!... and sounds like one of those approaches you have where after your interaction ends and after, you can’t stop thinking “arghhh she wanted me so bad/it was so close/she was so hot!!!!”; she was really into you it seemed.

Thanks man! It was like reeling in a big fish but broke the line when taking it out of the water!

Something that I’ve done a few times that I think you could have done with this one was to frame it as “we’ll be friends”

That interaction would go like:

Milf: I’m married :/ I can’t

Barry: oh ok, well let’s be friends (said with sexy smile); what you’re not allowed to have friends? (and with a little playful tug maybe) come on lets go get that shake, you were just getting to be so interesting.. come on one friendly chat couldn’t hurt

Milf: well all right

The interaction with the only married girl I slept with had a similar hard push at the end. I said "we should grab something to eat, it will only take 5 min." I know Chase has an article on hard-push at the end, maybe I can incorporate that somewhere here. Also, on his boyfriend article, he didn't have to persist as much as I did.

It’s a line I’ve used to become friends with older milfs at my gym (but never made progress with that; the problem being that they just get added to my social circle and just periodically flirt with me then which achieves nothing results-wise).

Are you getting contact information? That's all I need bro!!

p.s. There’s a milf at night, that I’m “friends” with too and she has the sort of ass you describe dude (and they really are genetically gifted, I probably should aim to end up with a girl with good genes like that so my son gets a better chance at getting good lifting genes) you just wanna take a measuring tape to it and measure dat ass!! Could be 50 inches even it almost looks like; I asked my “friend” and she says in her country you gotta have an ass like that and they sort of compete to have the best one (supposedly)… Lol

I've been meeting a lot of girls this summer with out-of-this world asses. If I have kids, I wanna marry a girl like that to pass on good genes. I'm an ectomorph, but the girl will probably turn the kid into a mesomorph!!

 

[Rage]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

Are you getting contact information? That's all I need bro!!

Nah it sucks man; I gotta tweak/try new things

I’ll meet a milf and she’ll hook fine (some of these ladies are drooling too because we’re sweaty and I’m pumped up and oozing out testosterone) and it’ll come to getting food sometime and “I don’t think I can, I’m married”.

And then I suggest as friends (but that works better it would seem in a cold approach than in a social circle) and we maybe become friends and I see her as a regular (and a lot to learn from these women being a sexy friend who banters a tiny bit with them now and then; but again, doesn’t get your dick wet) or she ends up coming different times than me and I don’t see her much after that.

My gym game with the older ladies needs work dude; also though, I wonder if wanting to fuck an older 30+ woman is just like a milestone/fetish thing (like tucker max wanting to fuck a midget for example haha) that like when I finally do fuck my unicorn milf, I find suddenly that “wow she’s loose as fuck, and wow this was so much hotter in my head”.

But we’ll see… I was rereading Chase’s gym article 2 days ago… and something that I caught that I hadn’t before was that it’s important to get a girl to reengage after breaking the ice…something I’m trying to implement a bit more into my milfish interactions right now.

 

[BarryS1]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

Are you getting contact information? That's all I need bro!!

Nah it sucks man; I gotta tweak/try new things

I’ll meet a milf and she’ll hook fine (some of these ladies are drooling too because we’re sweaty and I’m pumped up and oozing out testosterone) and it’ll come to getting food sometime and “I don’t think I can, I’m married”.

And then I suggest as friends (but that works better it would seem in a cold approach than in a social circle) and we maybe become friends and I see her as a regular (and a lot to learn from these women being a sexy friend who banters a tiny bit with them now and then; but again, doesn’t get your dick wet) or she ends up coming different times than me and I don’t see her much after that.

My gym game with the older ladies needs work dude; also though, I wonder if wanting to fuck an older 30+ woman is just like a milestone/fetish thing (like tucker max wanting to fuck a midget for example haha) that like when I finally do fuck my unicorn milf, I find suddenly that “wow she’s loose as fuck, and wow this was so much hotter in my head”.

But we’ll see… I was rereading Chase’s gym article 2 days ago… and something that I caught that I hadn’t before was that it’s important to get a girl to reengage after breaking the ice…something I’m trying to implement a bit more into my milfish interactions right now.

I am hitting on these married/older girls because I see them more often than girls my own age. If I do not see anyone around my age, I go for married/older girls to practice on. I don't know about you, but a little loose is a good thing for me. I get off by going hard and fast, something that's hard to do with petite/tight girls. Hey, those older girls can keep our sex drives under control until the next one comes around

I think we need another way of addressing their objections. I'm gonna read Chase's articles on objections and the hard-push and see what I can come up with. We are clearly not replacing their husbands/boyfriends, but there's something extra we need to do.

Addressing objections: https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-addressing-womens-objections
Hard push: https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-dont-let-her-go

 

[Rage]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

I see them more often too bro; and yeah my “maybe it wouldn’t be so awesome” statement is just conjecture… the truth is I lust over these older women and am attracted to them way more at times (it seems) than some of the younger girls.

I think part of it is you want what you haven’t yet gotten, and they’re harder to get than the chicks my age… but part of it is also that like at the gym they are just so damn good looking, and their bodies are so perfectly shaped and that plus them being experienced and having really high sex drives all together makes me wanna go for them before anything else (and when I do get one of these girls I’m gonna bring my A game and dominate the fucking shit out of her!!)

I am hitting on these married/older girls because I see them more often than girls my own age. If I do not see anyone around my age, I go for married/older girls to practice on. I don't know about you, but a little loose is a good thing for me. I get off by going hard and fast, something that's hard to do with petite/tight girls. Hey, those older girls can keep our sex drives under control until the next one comes around

Yeah I just read both articles thanks for the share! After a couple of weeks off, I went out approaching 3 times this week dude, and am gonna go Friday and Saturday and Sunday too (though nothing significant enough to warrant a report yet).

I’ve been working on my gym game a little alongside cold approaching. Some things I’ve been doing:

• Trying to ping the regulars I like a bit and ping a couple of new ones who don’t know me (but trying to keep this number only to certain women and not many women)
• Trying to establish pre-selection using my female friends as they flirt and banter and perhaps attempt tomake progress with me (this has been good too; I see the other women notice but it’s calibrated and subtle enough that they don’t look like they’re looking and I look like a player instead of an orbiter).

I was brainstorming the other day and realized a couple of things:

• One of the limiting factors is plausible deniability. And we have to be subtle not just with these women but with regard to other women in her social circle noticing her (which if it’s not subtle or smooth/proper throws things off; she has a social circle reputation to maintain).
• The women I should be trying to lay are the ones giving me the IOIs (indicators of interest) i.e. the women that I naturally gauge as smitten and heavily into me and most naturally attracted to me.

I think that there’s a fine line between the ones that check you out and only find you hot vs. the ones that get shy and nervous and really fucking want you… and for the ones that really want you and in combination with that are horny and maybe a little promiscuous and altogether would be up for it: those are the golden ticket girls and the ones I should be going for, and just need the proper approach from you and need the plausible deniability/have it be subtle for others in the social circle observing.

Some scattered ideas but I feel like I’m getting closer …

Bring on the milfs! Ha

-Gem

 

[Mr.Rob]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

This was pretty badass FR Barry!

I'm definitely not that aggressive with girls that are married. Well I don't aim to pickup married women and usually move on if I find out they are married but I know there's a lot more social pressure in those situations than when a girl is single/has boyfriend (that may or may not be real).

Me: I should of brought a cart like you, I can barely hold on to these re-usable water bottles.
Girl: They do help! I need to stock up for my kids.
Me: People like us in the suburbs need to stock up on food for our big houses.
Girl: Yeah! We are in the suburbs!
Me: (I spaced out for 1 sec. again) Wow, we are blocking the aisle, lets move over here.

Haha Idk if it's just the way I see things but this too me is another example of how conversation doesn't really matter it's more in sub communications.
Like her response that I bolded was so retarded.

When you talk to these girls are you thinking "omg this conversation is so lame I can't believe she's listening to this bullshit"?

Girl: Thank you for the compliment on my outfit (Trying to excuse herself)
Me: Did you just come back running from the gym?

Good save here you assumed she wanted to continue the interaction and didn't bow to the social pressure.

Girl: Do you wanna walk with me? I’m going over there.
Me: Sure lets go! Hold on, (pregnant pause) what am I your errand-slave? (We start to move)
Girl: That’s would be nice, I need the help! (We are still walking)
Me: Oh, thank you. Damn, I left my slave loincloth at home though! This outfit won’t work.

Haha this was funny, I'm going to swagger jack you on this one as it's just my style.

Girl: (Laughs and looks at me softly with eyes that say, "take me you f#$%-ing hot piece of meat. I wanna throw you on the ground and give your face a lap dance").

Lol women and sexuality. I think Julien from RSD says to just assume women are thinking about sex and penis 24/7 (even if it's not actuality). haha. Girl is about to pick out diapers "Damn these diapers are expensive. If only I had a fat veiny dick in my ass right now!"

Sucks to exchange such great sexual energy and not fully be able to express it huh? For all you know she's going to go home and fuck her husband and pretend it's you.

All and all this shit is tight. You'll be an icy pimp in no time keeping at it like this!

Keep posting I like learning from your style and conversation.

-Rob

 

[BarryS1]

Re: FR:Almost….Married athletic girl

Yeah I just read both articles thanks for the share! After a couple of weeks off, I went out approaching 3 times this week dude, and am gonna go Friday and Saturday and Sunday too (though nothing significant enough to warrant a report yet).

I’ve been working on my gym game a little alongside cold approaching. Some things I’ve been doing:

• Trying to ping the regulars I like a bit and ping a couple of new ones who don’t know me (but trying to keep this number only to certain women and not many women)
• Trying to establish pre-selection using my female friends as they flirt and banter and perhaps attempt tomake progress with me (this has been good too; I see the other women notice but it’s calibrated and subtle enough that they don’t look like they’re looking and I look like a player instead of an orbiter).

I was brainstorming the other day and realized a couple of things:

• One of the limiting factors is plausible deniability. And we have to be subtle not just with these women but with regard to other women in her social circle noticing her (which if it’s not subtle or smooth/proper throws things off; she has a social circle reputation to maintain).

I think the type of objections we are facing differ b/c we are in different environments - you in social circle, me in cold-approach daygame. You have greater risk, but better reward b/c of the sheer number of athletic girls at your gym. What we have in common though is that the objections are the same "Sorry, I am married." I'm gonna re-read the articles and try to come up with some lines to use.

I think answering objections will be good for other groups, such as girls our age with boyfriends. I am focusing on meeting more girls my age, but most of them are in relationships. I am open to taking a girl from a bad relationship and Chase's methods might apply there. TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE!!

• The women I should be trying to lay are the ones giving me the IOIs (indicators of interest) i.e. the women that I naturally gauge as smitten and heavily into me and most naturally attracted to me.

I think that there’s a fine line between the ones that check you out and only find you hot vs. the ones that get shy and nervous and really fucking want you… and for the ones that really want you and in combination with that are horny and maybe a little promiscuous and altogether would be up for it: those are the golden ticket girls and the ones I should be going for, and just need the proper approach from you and need the plausible deniability/have it be subtle for others in the social circle observing.

Some scattered ideas but I feel like I’m getting closer …

Bring on the milfs! Ha

-Gem

I have not paid attention to any IOI's since I started approaching....That may increase my success in this area. Again our environments are different, so the IOI's could show in different ways. When I cold approach during daygame, the girls usually never see me first until I pre-open them by touching on the arm. I have read Chase's article about girls who are looking for men, but that's during nightgame.

This was pretty badass FR Barry!

I'm definitely not that aggressive with girls that are married. Well I don't aim to pickup married women and usually move on if I find out they are married but I know there's a lot more social pressure in those situations than when a girl is single/has boyfriend (that may or may not be real).

Thanks Mr. Rob, my goal is to approach the hottest girls I see at any given time. Even if I do see someone between 18-25 y.o. (not that often though), I still will hit on the hotter, older girl for practice.

When you talk to these girls are you thinking "omg this conversation is so lame I can't believe she's listening to this bullshit"?

Yeah, like really stupid small-talk. Reminds me of older people 40+ meeting friends at the grocery store and talking about the weather....just mind-numbing.

Lol women and sexuality. I think Julien from RSD says to just assume women are thinking about sex and penis 24/7 (even if it's not actuality). haha. Girl is about to pick out diapers "Damn these diapers are expensive. If only I had a fat veiny dick in my ass right now!"

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Totally, kind of like assuming attraction, but a step above that. HOLLAH

Sucks to exchange such great sexual energy and not fully be able to express it huh? For all you know she's going to go home and fuck her husband and pretend it's you.

All and all this shit is tight. You'll be an icy pimp in no time keeping at it like this!

Keep posting I like learning from your style and conversation.

-Rob

This has been happening to me all summer, meeting an extremely sexual girl, but having it go nowhere - either married, leaving the country work, going off to college, ect. Argh!