FR Another night out for Altair.

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

So on a Friday night as it was at around 9 or so, I decided to say fuck it and hit the bar scene of my town before classes start back up for real. So I just head on out and hit the bar I usually hit, my pre-game bar for the most part. Decide to have a couple of drinks so I can loosen up and then I head on out to another close by bar.

The other bar I head on out to has a couple of guys I know but they weren't there, they are usually there but they weren't this time around. Decide to get a drink from there and then bail, bar hopping to the max.

Then I head out to this one bar which is one of the biggest bars in town but there is literally no one there, so I bail lol! Decide to explore a bit and check out a few new bars until I head to this one bar with a very friendly crowd. I ordered my drink and then talked to the door guys for a little bit, the drink was a good size and a great price too. One of the door guys I talk to is in a big fraternity on campus, shares his story, I share mines as I try to finish the drink. After finishing the large drink I head to another bar.

The bar I go to I decide to take a risk. I walk up to a girl standing by herself, a brunette 7, and ask her a question.

Me: Hi so I wanna know what's the strongest drink I can get at this bar
Her: HUH? I can't buy you a drink, I would if I had money (music was loud!)
Me: You would buy me a drink if you had the money!? NICE! (laughing as I look at her)
Her: But I don't (looking at me and smiling)
Me: I was actually asking what the strongest drink I can get here is, just wanna get wasted
Her: (names a drink)

A guy who apparently came with her as it seems would step in so I left and got the drink, it was powerful!

I walk up to a group of 3 guys, chat with them, get to know them, and one of the three guys decides he wants to wingman me. The guy goes up to a couple of girls as I am with him and he starts chatting with them. I am a little less proactive about it but I decide to join in. Guy whispers something in one of the girls' ears and I think that maybe I should try to joke around. One of the girls is a blonde 7 and the other a brunette 6, I look at the brunette 6 and say my line.

Me: He didn't tell you I have a small dick did he? That's not true!
Brunette: *looks at me weird* NO

It was uncalled for and I just bailed for the most part. Chat with the 3 guys a bit more before heading out to another bar.

I head out to a neighboring bar where I meet a few friends from class, chat with them, and then head to another bar.

I do the same thing where I ask this brunette 7 what drink I should get, she is with two blondes but I chat her up for a little bit. No kino or anything there but I finally got to the point where I am actually chatting with girls. The brunette eventually gets out of there and says she has to hit another bar with her friends, I did not even touch her or anything like that because the bar I was at is one loaded with college freshmen students.

Eventually I head out of there and go to the biggest bar in town.

I am walking around this bar and keep on doing so but most of the girls are chatting with other guys. As I walk around I see this one Middle Eastern girl and this one Asian girl sitting at a table by themselves. Look back and then turn back. I think to myself that even if I get rejected, it's not a big deal since I really only want to get with white girls and it would make for good conversation practice. I go up to the Middle Eastern girl and try to chat with her:

Me: So lemme guess, Spain? France? Argentina? Brazil? Colombia?
Her: No, try Lebanon!
Me: Oh I was so close!
Her: NO!! *laughing*
Me: They're on the same planet!

The girl is wasted and so is her Asian friend, both of these girls are good looking and as we are chatting, I think I make the mistake of doing some creepy KINO. I put my hand on the Arab girl's thighs and tried to find excuses to touch her but she was okay with it which is good. Decide that maybe it was not a bad decision. It's like I have a strategy here, the biggest bar in town is usually attracting townfolks and older people which means I can run some more aggressive style game there and maybe not worry about taking a hit to my college status.

I keep chatting with the girl, tell her she is attractive which is why I thought she was a Latina but then tell her Middle Eastern girls are hot too. So I keep at it and both of the girls are smiling and stuff but I am running into a brick wall. Maybe I did not escalate like I was supposed to but after like 30 minutes or so, the girl tells me she has to leave so I venture off to other parts of the bar.

Approach this one redhead and tell her that I got told I look like Wilmer Valderrama, she says that's not really true, and we chat before a guy she came to the bar with enters the convo. Tell the guy he looks like Bradley Cooper and the redhead looks like Cristina Hendricks, they laugh and have a good time. Then a blonde that is nearby and with them joins our convo, I tell her she looks like Heather Graham to which she smiles and is happy about it. The blonde tells me I look like Russell Peters.... OUCH! After a nice little convo I head out of there.

Decide to go to another college oriented bar where I chat with a couple of guys, warming myself up to being more social, and then just lurk around in the bar for a bit. Approached this green eyed brunette and told her she looks like Amber Heard (pronounced it Hoord intentionally), she jokes and laughs and says it is "heard" xD. I bail out after a short conversation and then walk around the bar a bit more until I see her. I saw this tall and gorgeous blonde I have always had my eyes on in the past year, she is just HOT. I've had fantasies about this girl!

The girl walks in with this chubby redhead guy and she is at the bar with him, the guy is shorter than her. So I decide to back off and wonder to another part of the bar where I chat with a few more guys but I occasionally look at the guy and the tall blonde to see whats up. The next time I do it, blonde is gone and the guy is all alone. I decide to go up to the guy and tell him he looks like Christian Bale to which the guy laughs. Get to know him and find out that he plays linebacker on the football team, no wonder the blonde was with him!

Eventually I head out of the bar and then walked around a bit more, going to one other bar where I would chat with some people before finally heading back home. I don't remember much else and I probably excluded some shit from the report but I decided to just head back home and relax for a bit.

I guess I have gotten better, my goal is by the end of the year, I wanna get my first kiss and lose my v card.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Re: FR/FU: Another night out for Altair.

Me: He didn't tell you I have a small dick did he? That's not true!
Brunette: *looks at me weird* NO

Haha, yes!!! I love what you tried to do here. It's hard to pull this line off, since it wasn't completely self-deprecatory. With your line, the one needs to be a mix of "fake fear" and "class clown," if that makes sense. You gotta be obviously joking.

Instead, you can try

Altair: he told you about my small dick, didn't he? (cheeky smile)

Her: (her response is pretty irrelevant here)

Altair: oh well, now you know what you're getting yourself into! I'm Altair

Self-deprecation is pure awesome. Use it whenever you can. Also, girls getting weirded out by sexual comments means either

1. She's not attracted to you (and he reacting weirdly saves you minutes of your precious time; the quicker the rejection, the better)
2. You're not a sexual guy

In this case, it's both. BUT, you can become a sexual guy, by doing exactly what you're doing; keep going out!

I am walking around this bar and keep on doing so but most of the girls are chatting with other guys. As I walk around I see this one Middle Eastern girl and this one Asian girl sitting at a table by themselves. Look back and then turn back. I think to myself that even if I get rejected, it's not a big deal since I really only want to get with white girls and it would make for good conversation practice. I go up to the Middle Eastern girl and try to chat with her:

As I read the "even if I get rejected, it's not a big deal" line, I was thinking "HEY, ALTAIR, MY MAN!" and then you said you only want to get with white girls. Homie, having desires and goals is good, but if you limit yourself to a niche when you're at your level, you'll have a tough time. I'm being serious when I say that you should take what you can get. Also, by saying you'll only get white girls, you're putting them on a pedestal, which is going to make it even harder.

I keep chatting with the girl, tell her she is attractive which is why I thought she was a Latina but then tell her Middle Eastern girls are hot too. So I keep at it and both of the girls are smiling and stuff but I am running into a brick wall. Maybe I did not escalate like I was supposed to but after like 30 minutes or so, the girl tells me she has to leave so I venture off to other parts of the bar.

Yeah, at some point you gotta move one or both of them. You could have asked them to come dance with you and built up some preselection. Or you could have stolen the more interested friend, saying to other girl, "hey, mind if I steal your friend for a minute?" You assume that your girl is going to say yes, so the only barrier is her friend, and so long as your girl is somewhat interested in you, the friend will usually comply. And if she was letting you touch her leg, she probably would have gone with you.

Overall, good shit man. You're approaching!!! But you're bailing WAY too early. Until you get really good social instincts, where you just know a girl is a lost cause and dipping will save you face/time, you gotta push all interactions to their limits. Just ask them to move to a different part of the bar/club. Start reading more articles on building compliance and escalating; I probably read one or two approaches in this report where you could have kissed the girl.

- Anatman

EDIT: I think it would really help if you start doing some physical activities. Start lifting, doing martial arts, or playing any sport you can - the reason why athletes do so well with women, besides having good fundamentals (muscles, dress well, etc) and social status, is that they're aggressive. You need more testosterone.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: FR/FU: Another night out for Altair.

Well my town has a lot of white girls in it, ideally, I want to try and hook up with a cute blonde and lose my v card to one, so many of them in my area too. I have been getting somewhat better responses from them as of late which is encouraging for me but I try my luck with basically all girls except for Black and Asians since I am really not that attracted to them. I did talk to that Arab girl because I am attracted to Arab girls too.

I lift and stuff but you have a point, trying to raise my test as of late.

 

[ray_zorse]

Re: FR/FU: Another night out for Altair.

I guess I have gotten better, my goal is by the end of the year, I wanna get my first kiss and lose my v card.

So good to see positive thinking, I had the same thought myself -- you know when you don't see someone for a year or two and then you do and they look really jacked or whatever... its like that, its hard to notice your own self-improvement b/c its quite gradual but skipping ahead a few months, the difference is remarkable. Nice work bud.

I had a night out the other night, for the first time in a while, and it was pretty similar to your last few reports... talked to a lot of ppl, didn't feel that comfortable, ejected a few times when I probably should have tried to move her etc... so failed to generate any leads... I came home thinking "yeah, meh kind of a night", however writing the FR (in my journal) forced me to assess it critically, and I realized I did actually have some good conversations in each venue, it just didn't seem like it at the time. It is very good to write reports every time!

Ray