Another Wasted Night

[lordvenger]

Hey Guys,

New Member here.

So I decided to go out tonight with the goal of at least talking to some woman
and anything else past that would have been a Bonus but Nothing happened.

I wound up at a bar called Coyote Ugly's and while there were woman there
nothing ever happened and I didn't talk to Anybody the whole night.

I must say up front that I am kind of picky about woman and I have always had this rule
that if I cant get up with them I wont take them to bed which means I don't hit up on heifer's,
Obese girls, or ugly girls. I'm not Joe Stud But I am not Joe Ugly either. I have known guys that
will hit up on Anything just to get laid but that just isn't me.

Anyway there were girls there and there was one or two I would have liked to hit up on and talk
to but I just never say any type of opening with them. The few I liked were sitting at a booth with
their friends and there was no real dance floor or dancing going on so I really wasn't sure how to proceed.

I just didn't know what to say to them and walking over to a group of girls sitting at a booth and trying to
talk to or hit up on one of them just seemed so out place and would seem Sooo Obvious I didn't do anything
but down a couple of beers and come home. Ya it was a wasted knight for sure.

The One Thing that really stood out to me was the hottest girl in the whole place was with her boyfriend.
So cute in her tight little mini dress and moving to the sound of the music playing and you know what?

He Ignored her All Night. I Never saw him really talk to her but yet he had time to talk to his buddies.
She seemed fine with it and he wasn't that great looking. I have Always been Stumped by shit like this
and have Never Understood it.

If she was mine I would not have been all over her but I would have at least
Acknowledge her presents and probably had my arms around her holding her tight and showing everybody
that she was Mine. Not this guy. Man I have Never figured that shit out. It Boggles my mind why a woman
That Hot would be with a guy like that.

So anyway I blew about 20 bucks and had absolutely Nothing to show for it but a beer buzz.
I hate things like this and one of the reasons I don't go to bars that often.

Because all I can think about is how that 20 bucks could have bought me a new pair of jeans
or maybe a shirt or Something, Anything to show I had invested it for something and not just blown it.

So I sit here eating breakfast and thinking about what a wasted night it was and how much I love my dog.
She is such a Good Dog and I know at least she loves me.

I live in Tampa, FL and if anybody on this site lives here to I would love to get together with you and watch
you Operate and maybe learn a few tricks because I could sure use the help.

Good night people

LV

 

[ray_zorse]

Hey brother it's good to put yourself out there, no matter what. Certainly I've had nights where I talked to nobody and went home. All the same...

(1) I approached a sitting group the other night, it's not something I'd try to do a lot of, but it can be done -- the way to do it is to check them out discreetly and observe the dynamics of the conversation -- if two of them appear to be talking amongst themselves and the third one is not contributing as much to the conversation, go over to her and say "hey it looks like you're a bit left out here, so I came over to say hi, I'm LordVenger...", shake hands, etc... obviously, this will distract the other group members and shake things up a bit, but hey it gives an opening

(2) As to the guy who ignored the girl all night, this is a perfect example of dominant body language/behaviour... he's communicating that having a hot girlfriend is not that important to him, he takes her for granted cos there a plenty of hot girls around and he can get another if she don't like it. You also need to do the same and be more confident / secure, less needy. No doubt they'll talk to each other if there is actually something to say. Having said that, some guys really do neglect the women to the point it pisses them off. That's your cue to come in, exactly as in point (1) above. Of course you could get a fist to the face, but this is pretty unlikely and I would take the risk, as there's nothing wrong with being social.

(3) Boggles your mind why a woman that hot would be with a guy like that... well the take-home here, is you can be that guy if you get your body language and subcommunication handled, that's all it is really... you don't need to be buff, tall, handsome, whatnot, though it helps. Nor do you have to treat women like princesses, in fact it's important that you do not. You just need to be a dominant, secure, confident motherfucker.

(4) If you're concerned about spending $20 on some beers don't get into pickup, it's a fuckin expensive game mate. I mean maybe once you get things handled you'll head to another city with no dosh in your wallet and a return ticket one week hence, and get your homeless pickup on... but in the meantime if you want to level up fast you're gonna have to buy lots of good threads, cologne, jewellery, boots, etc, etc and many waters.

-Ray

Edit: BTW this thread really should be in FR's section with topic "OR: Another Wasted Night", perhaps a mod might consider moving it.

 

[Man-O]

Solo n-game. It's tough in the beginning. You gotta read on some of it to ease the learning curve. I find a lot of ppl here doing d-game and using mediums but there are some decent articles here about n-game.

How to pick girls in bars and clubs
Going stag
meeting women alone

I've had a lot of such days too but when you start getting just a little bit experienced you can cut down on the alcohol and finally quit it totally if you rly want to save your money.

My tips for solo n-game:

1. Good venue: Find which venue is best for you. Even add it with having a warmup venue like a dance club where you shotgun approach for an hour or two and then go to a tad easier venue like a calm bar. Find out where it's nice and make sure the last one has good logistics.

2. Momentum: Get momentum/state/vibe up way high. Because when you enter some place alone that vibe will diminish by a lot. If you pump yourself up as an eagle you'll enter like a mosquito but if you pump yourself up like a dragon you will become an eagle in the bar, which is doable. How? Sing aloud, read some pua articles etc., take a nice shower, meditate. In general do something you find fun

3. Action: Make sure you're in motion to keep your momentum. If you sit by the bar make sure you talk with the bartender at a place where the girls frequent so you can always talk over the shoulder and make a very decent approach with very little effort. Move around, you can also talk with guy-sets when you feel you can take bigger risks.

4. Alcohol: Alcohol dulls the senses. Can be decent to rely on in the beginning so you actually dare approaching but you should be cutting down on it slowly as you progress in experience.

What I find easy is to open with small tricks. Like old school pua stuff (style's coin trick or 5 wrong questions game etc.)
You can also ask a random girl to open a girl for you and tell her to act as your sister or something because you don't dare go over to that girl alone.
By the bar it's usually a bit easier and you can make simple openers because the vibe is more nonchalant when you're sitting.
If you can manage solo-game and be consistent you should be getting a learning curve much greater than most gamers out there.