Anyone of you have a huge social media presence? If so, how does it impact your pickups?

[jaythedon]

I've been working on a youtube channel lately and starting to get some subscribers and I'm sure as I expand to other social networks, I'll get bigger social media presence.

My question simply is, for those with a medium-big following on social media, how did it impact your seduction?

I've heard of people hiding their social media (if they get really big) due to 2 main reasons.
A. Girls play long term game with them to try and lock them down
B. They don't wanna be wanted just for their social media presence.

 

[Atlas IV]

I have a fairly big social media presence in Asia. It hasn't done much for me other than get a lot of weird messages/invitations from stalkerish middle-aged women.

It even screwed me over once by ruining the social frame with a girl I had almost secured the lay with from daygame. She found my TikTok and went into auto-rejection (most guys would assume it's a plus, but having a big social media presence also causes attainability issues)

I keep it separate now, and don't even mention it to the majority of girls I meet (until we've already slept together a few times)

@TomInHo probably has some thoughts on this too?

 

[jaythedon]

It even screwed me over once by ruining the social frame with a girl I had almost secured the lay with from daygame. She found my TikTok and went into auto-rejection (most guys would assume it's a plus, but having a big social media presence also causes attainability issues)

This is interesting. I heard this also.

@Atlas IV What type of social media contents do you put out?

 

[TomInHo]

I have close to half a million followers across my social media accounts (IG & YouTube) and from my experience having a strong social media presence has it's pros and cons

I'm in the fitness niche so have to use my body as a selling point. And sometimes when girls see my social media they can assume I am douchy and vain. But that is not that hard to fix when gaming them by toning down overly cocky attitude

Also my social media has allowed me to skip dates entirely sometimes. A girl may go and watch a bunch of my content, build a good amount of comfort and feel no need to go on a date and can be more open to cuming straight over

Do some girls try to boyfriend zone me because of it? I guess but once again that's very easy to fix with good sexual framing and letting her know I won't judge her on being a potential GF if we fuck fast

Another thing is if I add them on IG I also don't need to be super aggressive with follow ups if they are not available. Sometimes when you try to set up dates with girls they may not be able to meet immediately for whateva reason

But with IG, I can just put those girls on the back burner and focus on more hot leads and can resurrect old leads when they comment on my stories and posts

But to be honest because of the way I already look I don't really need to rely on the value boost I can get from social media. So I tend not to lead with it and will only give them my IG if the lead is warm (not hot) or if they for some reason will not give me their number

On most of my dates girls have no idea I have a big following until after a few bangs

Have also had some girls I didn't close that I decided to move on from, then later they find my social media and all of a sudden they're more interested and are down to bang lol

So yeah, grow your social media but honestly forget about it for women. It's nice for that but it will give you more income if you handle it properly which IMO is more valuable than pussy

PS: IG is also a great dating app and I have gotten some lays from it. And I would say you can get more attractive girls with IG than standard dating apps like Tinder

 

[JasonH]

I have close to half a million followers across my social media accounts (IG & YouTube) and from my experience having a strong social media presence has it's pros and cons

I'm in the fitness niche so have to use my body as a selling point. And sometimes when girls see my social media they can assume I am douchy and vain. But that is not that hard to fix when gaming them by toning down overly cocky attitude

Also my social media has allowed me to skip dates entirely sometimes. A girl may go and watch a bunch of my content, build a good amount of comfort and feel no need to go on a date and can be more open to cuming straight over

Do some girls try to boyfriend zone me because of it? I guess but once again that's very easy to fix with good sexual framing and letting her know I won't judge her on being a potential GF if we fuck fast

Another thing is if I add them on IG I also don't need to be super aggressive with follow ups if they are not available. Sometimes when you try to set up dates with girls they may not be able to meet immediately for whateva reason

But with IG, I can just put those girls on the back burner and focus on more hot leads and can resurrect old leads when they comment on my stories and posts

But to be honest because of the way I already look I don't really need to rely on the value boost I can get from social media. So I tend not to lead with it and will only give them my IG if the lead is warm (not hot) or if they for some reason will not give me their number

On most of my dates girls have no idea I have a big following until after a few bangs

Have also had some girls I didn't close that I decided to move on from, then later they find my social media and all of a sudden they're more interested and are down to bang lol

So yeah, grow your social media but honestly forget about it for women. It's nice for that but it will give you more income if you handle it properly which IMO is more valuable than pussy

PS: IG is also a great dating app and I have gotten some lays from it. And I would say you can get more attractive girls with IG than standard dating apps like Tinder

@TomInHo Any advise on Instagram styling/themes/post types that work well for you on IG or any links to public IG's that have good style, theme, content that are fitness themed? (I get you may not want to post your IG/youtube on this forum)

 

[Chase]

Interesting to see the perspectives here.

I know what it's been like running a somewhat major website. Girls very impressed when they hear about it / get nervous and act awkward, more aggressive chasing. Also clearly behaving a lot more self-conscious, mixture of sexier + slightly cautious, etc. -- there is a kind of power dynamic there where they are treating you almost as if you are both desirable and dangerous... like "This guy is way over me but still acting cool and humble with me, I'm not sure how to react."

I also know I prefer to keep it totally stealth, and not only because of the subject matter (I dislike the dynamic where women are trying extra, extra hard to impress me. A little bit hard like you get in a normal good seduction is good, but too much and it's off-putting. I want to evaluate the woman as she is, not the front she is putting on to be whatever she thinks is going to work best with me).

I have also seen how even with our relatively small YouTube channel (~30K subs) @Hector Papi Castillo still had chicks hitting him up here and there flying out to see him / sleep with him, even given it is a channel targeted exclusively at men. Not a huge amount; I think he had 3 different girls do this with him. But it's an interesting data point. At least one of them caught feelings hard (I guess it's a big investment, flying continents to come be with some guy you crushed on over watching a bunch of his YouTube videos, then crashing with him for weeks) and was being a real pain for him over messages after going home before she calmed down again.

Anyway, all that is different from an actual personal social media account, where you have your personal brand built up and women are discovering you, liking/commenting on your pics, and so on.

So, it is neat to hear the experiences of @Atlas IV and @TomInHo.

Chase

 

[TomInHo]

I also know I prefer to keep it totally stealth, and not only because of the subject matter (I dislike the dynamic where women are trying extra, extra hard to impress me. A little bit hard like you get in a normal good seduction is good, but too much and it's off-putting. I want to evaluate the woman as she is, not the front she is putting on to be whatever she thinks is going to work best with me).

Yeah I do the same, like to keep it more stealth if I can but they usually find out about it eventually

Also something really interesting I also noticed. When a girl is invested they will look at your social media a lot when you're not with them

And on my IG even though I do fitness, in my stories I sometimes talk about dating and relationship stuff with my audience to relate with them better

If in a story I say something like "Nothing turns me on more, than a woman that know how to cook X food" sure enough one of the girls I'm dating gets the idea to cook me X out of the blue lol

If I say something about loving a woman that loves to read, guess what? I will then have a few girls recommend me books or even buy me some

I even notice them using slang or sharing uncommon views that I have only shared with my audience. Yet some of those same girls will pretend they don't follow my social media closely

It's quite funny, but it's also one of the reasons why I now try to be more careful about what I share. Because like you said the girl might analyze your profile and then shape herself into a woman she thinks you want

And I think this happens a lot with other guys that are public figures which can making getting to know the real her difficult. They can keep that charade up for while

Because I have another friend that is in dating niche but he is more redpilled, and sure enough his girlfriend believes all the redpill talking points and that's one of the reasons he committed to her

But now after 3 years of dating all of a sudden some of her views on relationships are changing and I wonder why lol