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Tayo and Ray, the answer between the debate between direct and indirect is that you guys are BOTH right.
Of all the girls I've laid from cold approach, I don't think I would have lost any of them had I opened differently. Sure, if there are lots of people listening in on your approach, it's better to fly under the radar (indirect) to preserve her reputation, but other than that, it doesn't matter.
Whether or not you get intimate with a girl is dependent on her sexual availability and her physical attraction to you. Sexual availability is basically how open she is to having sex with a new guy. There can be a million reasons for her being sexually unavailable and none of them have anything to do with you. This is why even the best looking guys with great social skills still get LOTS of rejection from cold approach. Most women you'll encounter when approaching randomly on the street are NOT looking for a new dick in their life, no matter how attractive, so don't beat yourself up over rejection.
After her sexual availability, the next prerequisite is her physical attraction to you. Does she find you attractive? If yes on both accounts, you have a girl who will meet up with you. As long as you don't do say anything dumb and know how to escalate properly, you should be able to close.
In conclusion, the words you use matter very little. Sure, there's a lot you can say that can blow your chances, but there's very little you can say to improve your chances.
Finally, phone numbers should not be the barometer for success. The goal is to get dates, lays, relationships, etc, not phone numbers. If a girl doesn't meet up, it's a rejection. Safe and friendly conversations will get you lots of flakey numbers with a few that agree to meet up. More direct and aggressive conversations will get you fewer numbers with a few that agree to meet up. In the end, the results are the same - the girls that want to meet up, do so, regardless of the words you used.
Of all the girls I've laid from cold approach, I don't think I would have lost any of them had I opened differently. Sure, if there are lots of people listening in on your approach, it's better to fly under the radar (indirect) to preserve her reputation, but other than that, it doesn't matter.
Whether or not you get intimate with a girl is dependent on her sexual availability and her physical attraction to you. Sexual availability is basically how open she is to having sex with a new guy. There can be a million reasons for her being sexually unavailable and none of them have anything to do with you. This is why even the best looking guys with great social skills still get LOTS of rejection from cold approach. Most women you'll encounter when approaching randomly on the street are NOT looking for a new dick in their life, no matter how attractive, so don't beat yourself up over rejection.
After her sexual availability, the next prerequisite is her physical attraction to you. Does she find you attractive? If yes on both accounts, you have a girl who will meet up with you. As long as you don't do say anything dumb and know how to escalate properly, you should be able to close.
In conclusion, the words you use matter very little. Sure, there's a lot you can say that can blow your chances, but there's very little you can say to improve your chances.
Finally, phone numbers should not be the barometer for success. The goal is to get dates, lays, relationships, etc, not phone numbers. If a girl doesn't meet up, it's a rejection. Safe and friendly conversations will get you lots of flakey numbers with a few that agree to meet up. More direct and aggressive conversations will get you fewer numbers with a few that agree to meet up. In the end, the results are the same - the girls that want to meet up, do so, regardless of the words you used.
