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Are 90% of women out there nymphomaniacs?

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Like almost everything on this site, this goes totally against the grain on what i used to think how girls were.

It still doesn't make sense that women prefer being treated as a sexual object, as opposed to a human being to share your romantic desires, I'm sure you've often heard how they wished men would appreciate them for who they were, and not just treat them like 'a piece of meat'. But yet, they're far more receptive to the sexual vibe, and acting like a sexual lover, than anything else.

From what i can infer from Chase's articles, it seems to me that 90% of all women out there are repressed nymphomaniacs, even if they look so cute and adorable on the outside.

Does a woman really think about sex a lot? Does she really crave it and get it at any excuse she can get? I know that's pretty much what the articles say, but I just can't believe it. I can't believe the vast majority of women out there would be like how Chase describes them, and crave sex so badly each day that they'll be excited to have hot sex with a stranger at any time of day, provided the situation was acceptable.
I would think i'm a sex addict if i thought like that. (If i reincarnated into a woman, a man had better wine and dine me. He damn well couldn't just jump into bed with me straight away!).
 
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Howdy Ryan,

Ryan said:
I'm sure you've often heard how they wished men would appreciate them for who they were, and not just treat them like 'a piece of meat'.

As most "bitter" things you'll hear from women, it's often angry feelings about the guy they were trying to reel in a relationship and ended up only with sex. They wanted romance and couldn't get it - and now they're complaining about it. Now, if a woman has the expectation of sex and not romance, then she gets offended that "guys are just too nice". It's all about acting congruent to her expectations (and being a lover candidate rather than a boyfriend candidate).

Ryan said:
Does a woman really think about sex a lot? Does she really crave it and get it at any excuse she can get?

I think it's one of those "you have to see it to believe it" things. This genuinely surprised me at first, too. Think about this, though - girls talk and gossip about sex regularly, they put makeup on everyday (and wear clothes that sexualize their bodies), the shows they watch are up to the brim with sexual tension...guys don't do that stuff. Indeed, girls think about sex a lot - they're lives are surrounded by it. And since women have access to dick wherever they go, they're used to having someone else please them after building that tension. Furthermore, since women have reinforced natural sex compared to the rewired neural circuits of men fixated to porn, they FEEL intensely sexual around sexy men (since that's what the brain is supposed to do) whereas many men have morphed their malleable brains to be unaffected by real women.

We can say that men and women start off with the same sex drives - but the use of modern technology has tipped the scales toward more sexuality from the woman.

Ryan said:
and crave sex so badly each day that they'll be excited to have hot sex with a stranger at any time of day, provided the situation was acceptable.

You'll get a kick out of this: http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/F/Fr/Fri ... garden.pdf

~Nick
 

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How much do you think about sex Ryan? Not only sex with a girl, but also porn too. Girls are human too, they probably think about sex just as much or more (I think women think about sex more than guys do). Plus girls are sexually repressed by society so it makes them want it even more.

If you spend repressing something, you'll want it more. Think about how hard it was to avoid fatty or sugary foods when you went on a diet, or not jacking off when you wanted to. Girls have that with sex everyday. So of course they want it. Girls want sex more than guys because they have the same natural desires but have to repress them.
 

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Yes hard to get one's head round, especially when women themselves complain that "men only want one thing!" etc.

But then I think of the example of myself. I have in the past fallen firmly into the "nice guy" category. That's how friends and colleagues see me, that's how women see me and that's how I see myself. And that genuinely is one side to my personality. I like reading, I like painting, I like helping people. I hold fantasies of meeting a soulmate, talking for hours, taking her to all my favourite spots in the countryside and looking after her.

But at other times, I really just want to pull a mini-skirted, dyed blonde, perma-tanned young floozy out of a shit club and bang her up against the wheelie bins. Those friends, colleagues and women I mention above would be utterly shocked if they knew that, and I wouldn't dream of revealing that side of myself to them, but of course I have the same biological impulses as other men. If a "slutty" young woman bursting with sexual energy came up to me in a club and whispered in my ear to do her right now in a toilet cubicle I totally would. Why on earth wouldn't I? Then next day back at work I would be nice, sweet, helpful Nuncle again and that wouldn't be an act.

And having read about the "secret society", within which women are happy to reveal their true sexuality, that totally rings a bell. I have sometimes watched a natural at work out in the field, sometimes with women I have known previously, and it is like watching a completely different woman who just looks the same as the one I knew before.
 

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xcrunner said:
How much do you think about sex Ryan? Not only sex with a girl, but also porn too. Girls are human too, they probably think about sex just as much or more (I think women think about sex more than guys do). Plus girls are sexually repressed by society so it makes them want it even more.

If you spend repressing something, you'll want it more. Think about how hard it was to avoid fatty or sugary foods when you went on a diet, or not jacking off when you wanted to. Girls have that with sex everyday. So of course they want it. Girls want sex more than guys because they have the same natural desires but have to repress them.

I thought i'm like every other guy and i assumed women. Think about 'romanticism' (like kissing and touching her) only when i see a pretty girl, and sex only when i'm really horny (like an hour every 1 or 2 evenings). I stopped watching porn last year, but maybe there's still some more improving to my libido to go.

Sure, when you see a woman with a lot of make-up and showing skin, you may assume they to be thinking of sex. But the normal, doe-eyed, cute, young women all dressed up with 4 layers against the winter weather? I would have thought sex was the last thing on their minds. I just don't know how i can come to believe this.
 

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But the normal, doe-eyed, cute, young women all dressed up with 4 layers against the winter weather? I would have thought sex was the last thing on their minds. I just don't know how i can come to believe this.

Here's something that might change your mind. These are 5 scenes from romantic movie and tv shows, and I could easily find more. Shows and movies that most women watch or have seen. Notice a trend? None of these girls are showing a ton of skin. They're actually pretty conservative. They're everyday girls. And they WANT the guy. They go crazy over him. These are so popular because girls want to be swept off their feet. Even the ones wearing 4 layers want the right guy to tear them off ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE_xYglu2c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4_obOCNYls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKHwI7xo2X4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W261uHRCFQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xLmxgd-AYs

All regular women. Yes, they're actresses and probably prettier than most girls, but they aren't the hot girls or the crazy club queens. They're plain girls. And I can analyze each clip, but I think its pretty easy to see that the girl wants him (in the last one, she's a little cold, but she comes back to him)


Shit, I can even find one in a "manly" movie. Have you seen Thor? His love interest is basically the girl you described. And she wants it bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeE-uUEDt_M
 

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xcrunner said:
But the normal, doe-eyed, cute, young women all dressed up with 4 layers against the winter weather? I would have thought sex was the last thing on their minds. I just don't know how i can come to believe this.

Here's something that might change your mind. These are 5 scenes from romantic movie and tv shows, and I could easily find more. Shows and movies that most women watch or have seen. Notice a trend? None of these girls are showing a ton of skin. They're actually pretty conservative. They're everyday girls. And they WANT the guy. They go crazy over him. These are so popular because girls want to be swept off their feet. Even the ones wearing 4 layers want the right guy to tear them off ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE_xYglu2c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4_obOCNYls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKHwI7xo2X4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W261uHRCFQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xLmxgd-AYs

All regular women. Yes, they're actresses and probably prettier than most girls, but they aren't the hot girls or the crazy club queens. They're plain girls. And I can analyze each clip, but I think its pretty easy to see that the girl wants him (in the last one, she's a little cold, but she comes back to him)


Shit, I can even find one in a "manly" movie. Have you seen Thor? His love interest is basically the girl you described. And she wants it bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeE-uUEDt_M

I hate to be so negative, because i appreciate you finding those youtube videos to illustrate your point. But those are actresses. That's not how they really feel.
 

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Ryan said:
I thought i'm like every other guy and i assumed women. Think about 'romanticism' (like kissing and touching her) only when i see a pretty girl, and sex only when i'm really horny (like an hour every 1 or 2 evenings).

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Sure, but if you had lots of really hot, confident, seductive women who knew what they were doing coming on to you, then your more primal side would come out more. Or if there were women watching you who knew how to tell when that hour was and how to take advantage of it.

That is exactly what its like for a woman being seduced by a man who knows what he is doing.
 

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when in doubt, Yahoo Answer it:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 614AARyPZ7

That's crazy. My perception of women have really changed. I mean, hearing it from Chase or another guy is one thing, but hearing this from women?

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But then I think of the example of myself. I have in the past fallen firmly into the "nice guy" category. That's how friends and colleagues see me, that's how women see me and that's how I see myself. And that genuinely is one side to my personality. I like reading, I like painting, I like helping people. I hold fantasies of meeting a soulmate, talking for hours, taking her to all my favourite spots in the countryside and looking after her.

If that's what you think a 'nice guy' is, then I shall always remain a 'nice guy'. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
 

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ZacAdam said:

I read it before, thanks anyway. But no matter if he showed scientific reports or his own anecdotes (which is what the majority of his articles are anyway), he's not a woman. So i find him difficult to believe in that area.

But if a woman says herself that she masturbates 3-4 times a week (wow!), or feels horny everyday, etc see here I'm quite amazed.
 

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To address the movie/actress issue: aren't characters in movies designed as tropes to represent society at large?

And if it helps you to get with women to believe that a girl you meet is most likely a nymphomaniac, I say it's a interesting method to try. Similar to "All girls are silly and cute" but adapted a bit. Good idea.

Jake.
 

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Jake D. said:
To address the movie/actress issue: aren't characters in movies designed as tropes to represent society at large?

I didn't think that was the case. I thought they represented characters from the audience's imagination.
 

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To address the movie/actress issue: aren't characters in movies designed as tropes to represent society at large?

Even more importantly, girls envision themselves in those character's roles. And even if the audience realizes that they are purely imaginary and has not feeling about them at all (really hard to do) the the base for that imagination has to come from somewhere
 

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Even more importantly, girls envision themselves in those character's roles. And even if the audience realizes that they are purely imaginary and has not feeling about them at all (really hard to do) the the base for that imagination has to come from somewhere

As far as movies go, this is exactly correct. Girls fantasize about being in those roles as the average woman being swiftly bedded my the masculine hero. That's why they love those movies so much -- think Twilight and Edward Cullen/Jacob Black.

- Franco
 

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well my experiences show that girls want only sex from us. if they needed to choose between a man with $$$ or the one who gives her great sex, they choose the lover - maybe because it is harder to come by? i do think that girls are the men of the 21st century. it just takes a lot of time for most of us to be able to consistently score with the quality we need as we need a complete mindset overhaul and skill to acquire.
 

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Ryan said:
If that's what you think a 'nice guy' is, then I shall always remain a 'nice guy'. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

You missed my point (admittedly it wasn't very clear).

I wasn't saying being a nice guy was good or bad. I was just using myself as an example of someone who comes across as nice and sweet (so I'm told) but who at the same time is really into the idea of hot, loveless casual sex.

My point was that "sweet" women are the same, only they are less easily impressed than I am.
 

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I see, thank you. I just can't imagine girls being into casual sex, like PrettyDecent said, got to see it to believe it.
 

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Hi Ryan–

The way I've learned to think about this issue as a former "holy man" turned rookie player in the last two months is this: all women really do want sex. Coming to this belief is what started turning my results around… but the question is: do they want it with you? In other words, if a woman isn't warning up to me the way I would like during a seduction, I always take the outcome–based view that either my sexiness needs improvement or my screening needs improvement.

You have to get into the mindset of believing this before you can maximize your efforts toward self–improvement.

All the best to you,

-MP
 

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MachinePlayer said:
The way I've learned to think about this issue as a former "holy man" turned rookie player in the last two months is this: all women really do want sex. Coming to this belief is what started turning my results around… but the question is: do they want it with you? In other words, if a woman isn't warning up to me the way I would like during a seduction, I always take the outcome–based view that either my sexiness needs improvement or my screening needs improvement.

You have to get into the mindset of believing this before you can maximize your efforts toward self–improvement.

Very good point!
 
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