Are Certain Kinds of "Rape" Enjoyable By Women?

[Cacc]

Opening up a can of worms here but I'm pretty interested in this topic. I hope others will give their thoughts on the matter.

We know women enjoy domination during sex. Studies show 40-50% of women have rape fantasies and that doesn't include the women who lie about it. Studies also show that around 4-5% of women orgasm when they're raped and that number may be higher.

I'll put "rape" in quotation marks because different people have different definitions of the word.

Say you want to have sex but your girlfriend aint that into it at the moment. You put your penis inside her and she wants you off. You start thrusting and she stops resisting after a few minutes and gets into it.

Would you consider that "rape"? We know most people in western culture would say yes. But most people are sheep and dont understand women. I'm curious as to what you pimps think ?

Another scenario. You meet a girl in the street and after an hour you invite her home and she complies. You physically escalate and start fingering her and she resists but is too overwhelmed by pleasure to keep going, you undress her and put your dick inside her. She's still hesitant and not super comfortable and tells you to stop but you keep going, soon after she starts letting go and enjoying herself and you both go off to have amazing sex.

Is that "rape"?


From this, I ask 2 important questions:

Do women like when men they find attractive force themselves on her sexually and dislike when men they dont find attractive force themselves on her sexually?

If a woman enjoyed it and is glad it happened once it's over even if she didnt want to/wanst sure initially. Would you consider that to be rape?

 

[Lover]

Hey Cacc, I have no clue whatsoever. But I got curious about another thing.

Studies also show that around 4-5% of women orgasm when they're raped and that number may be higher.

Care to show me these studies?

 

[Richard]

So,

I've always been pretty open about my background and upbringing and how my neighborhood is surrounded by areas low on the S.E.S scale and have high levels of poverty. Places like this become commonplace for all kinds of violence; gang activity, drive-bys, and... rape.

I know a few women were victims of rape or other kinds of sexual assault; 1 was repeatedly raped by her father while he was high on meth and she ended up killing herself SPECIFICALLY because she experienced sensation and orgasms so she felt ashamed of herself. Other dots on the page type events happened at parties and what not and a handful of girls said they experienced orgasms. So, needless to say, I know that women CAN have orgasms during rape.

If I remember correctly; vaginal arousal is possible without mental arousal although the psychological tension of being raped CAN (rarely, I'd think) induce enough strong emotion to create a mental arousal of sorts but the mere act of playing with a girls pussy creates some biological arousal at the sub-cortical level. So, while women may not want it to feel good, it probably will to some degree and that further creates more tension/anxiety/shame/guilt for victims.

That being said - if there is ever a shadow of a doubt in your mind about whether a woman WANTS your dick inside her or not then I'm going to say leave it alone. If you're thrusting while a girl is saying no then stop. I've seen enough friends and guys on these Boards go through rape-situation bullshit over much much less and it's not worth the hassle PLUS there are other ways to turn a girl on when she's resisting than to force yourself inside her.

It's my opinion that rape is weak and very beta.

-Richard

 

[Richard]

Care to show me these studies?

Quick Google search and I'm pretty confident saying it's this study;

Levin, R. J., & Berlo, W. V. (2004). Sexual arousal and orgasm in subjects who experience forced or non consensual sexual stimulation- a review. Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine, 11(2), 82-88. doi:10.1016/j.jcfm.2003.10.008

 

[Cacc]

Richard,

I was more specifically talking about women who do like you who agree to go home with you and you choose to plow through her token resistance with force.

Because I have heard of many cases of the above happening because the man's reptile brain took over, only to have those women act fine after the sex was over; even going on to have casual and even long term relationships with these women.

 

[Richard]

Cacc,

If we're talking about bypassing LMR then there are better ways than pure force, as I said. Why take an option that is inherently worse when there are better ones on the table?

-Richard

 

[trashKENNUT]

Cacc,

I was more specifically talking about women who do like you who agree to go home with you and you choose to plow through her token resistance with force.

Depends on how you screen her and who she is.

Only advanced guys are able to pull off "rapey" kind of things that women enjoy. Which actually means just more proactive, cancelling her out objections just enough. I don't recommend doing it for newer guys but i will appease that liking by suggesting this.

During the initial period of sex, after you already enter her, all bets are off. Some women are just gonna be "annoying". So fuck that annoyance.

Zac

 

[Lover]

Care to show me these studies?

Quick Google search and I'm pretty confident saying it's this study;

Levin, R. J., & Berlo, W. V. (2004). Sexual arousal and orgasm in subjects who experience forced or non consensual sexual stimulation- a review. Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine, 11(2), 82-88. doi:10.1016/j.jcfm.2003.10.008

Thanks, Richard!