Are my chances with this girl gone?

[Kuro]

I was doing well for a while. I texted her only to make plans to meet up, got her to invest, and I was even starting to touch her in subtle, yet noticeable, ways.

That all changed when her friend did something really stupid. I ended up texting the girl I'm interested like 10 times, because thanks to her friend I suddenly needed a ride. However, I didn't pick up that she couldn't give me one until after she sent this long apology... over texting. Then I was stupid enough to complain about her friend over texting.

Her friend's mistake was big enough that I doubt she blames me for being angry, but I did lose my cool and I feel like I came off as needy - maybe even clingy, since I texted her too much. And even though she knows her friend can be a pain in the you know what, I'm wondering how us not getting along affects her opinion of me.

Are my chances with this girl pretty much gone? It feels like a shame to lose a chance with her over something like this.

 

[Verisimilitude]

You texted a girl 10 times in a row without a response? That seems a little excessive.

 

[Doctor]

So this is social circle?

Many times I have been cock-blocked by a girls friends in social circle. Sometimes because they are jealous, sometimes because they got the wrong impression and just want to protect their friend. If one of her friends dislikes you, and she respects that friends opinion, well, I don't want to say you are 100% screwed but it just got a lot harder.

Is it worth taking on all the work of trying to repair the relationship with her friend, on-top of the normal effort of trying to seduce her as well, only to (best case scenario) end up in the boyfriend zone? Or are you better off focusing on other girls you don't have this problem with? Only you can answer that! Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[Kuro]

I got responses actually. She was telling me she couldn't give me a ride and I didn't pick up on it, until after she sent this long apology, telling me that her car was full.

Long story short, I've been 'friends' with her flaky friend for quite a while. Longer than I've known this girl, in fact. We had this trip planned and flaky girl - who was supposed to be my ride - flaked on me and this other girl. It ticked me off enough that I deleted flaky girls number and ended up complaining about her to the girl I'm interested in.

Anyway, to my surprise she still seems interested. In fact she even seems more interested, which has me puzzled. She seemed upset when I was texting her about a ride, so I don't know what to make of this.

 

[Doctor]

Only you can know for sure. You need to ask yourself these questions:

1) Did you actually piss her mate off (it's hard to gauge emotions over text)?
2) Is she likely to care if you did?
3) Is it worth all the time and effort to figure all this out when you could just go meet new girls?

Like I said only you will know the answers to these questions. Once you have established them in your head you should be able to move forward with some clarity.

Good luck my friend!

EDIT: If you think she is still interested, and she is responding to texts, then what is stopping you from asking her out, getting her alone, and finding out for sure?

 

[Kuro]

I'd say the main thing is inexperience. I don't know how to move things forward, though I have avoided the big mistakes I used to make with girls

Trying to get her alone does sound like a good idea, though. So I'll talk to her and try to make a plan.

 

[Doctor]

Lucky you have found this site then!

If you want to move things forward with her then getting her alone with you is your only option right now

My standard go to for arranging a get together with a social circle girl is get into decent conversation with her so she wants more then simply say "We should hang out more, do you fancy grabbing a drink sometime?". Yes, it really is that simple. Once she has agreed to a hangout then ask her when she is free, and schedule a time and place there in person. I find it's best to tell them exactly where you plan on going (first venue) or they can get nervous not knowing what you intend to do with them and this leads to flaking. Then just text her a couple hours before the date with something like "I will meet you at the main entrance, see you at 8" just so she knows you have remembered the date etc.

From there it is your job to lead her to intimacy.

Like I said, lucky you have this site now, lookup the articles on getting compliance etc and get her back to your place as soon as you can.

Hope this helps!