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Virgin101

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Is anyone here petty? Be honest. Do you like to get your own back on people over small things to prove a point? Do you like giving someone a taste of their own medicine?And do you prefer to do it such a way that the other person will be wondering whether it was you, or whether it was deliberate? Do you like to bring up something someone said in the past at the right moment in order to point out how they're full of shit? In any case, I think people are a lot more petty and passive aggressive people out there than what we are led to believe. So it's important to recognise such behaviour.

Take myself for example - if someone bangs their car door into mine when parked next to me (pet hate), or parks terribly at my expense, I may leave a nasty note on the car! Here's a few stories of my own pettiness. Tell me if if you think it's mean, or if it's fair game. And if you do not think such behaviour is mean, then tell if you think it's immature?

Tale one

I work as a security guard and the staff where I work are supposed to have their bags checked by me or a manager before they go home. Anyway one day as this staff member walked past me, he said to two other members of staff "I'm just gonna have Eoin (manager) check it because it's just so awkward doing it with him". I'm not saying he did this deliberately to annoy me, but he could've at least realised that I was going to hear it.

A few minutes later I could see that he hadn't found a manager, and that he was coming back to look for me to do the bag check. So I walked away. I went towards the back corner of the ground floor, and went up the fire exit stairs to the other section of the store. I knew that the girls in customer service (who he just made the remark to) would tell him which way I went. By the time he realised that I wasn't downstairs he went back towards the front of the store in order to use the escalator to go upstairs... the only other place he thought I could be. But I'd gone into the camera room! From there I watched him looking for me for about 3 minutes before he gave up and left without doing any bag check!

He definitely realised what I was up to by the time he left. But he couldn't have been sure. I could easily have deniability if he confronted me. Just as he would have deniability if I had confronted him about what he had said.

Tale two

On another occasion I was directing traffic for a drive-thru McDonalds that had just re-opened after the covid lockdown. So as you can expect, the line of cars (queue) was so big that it began from well outside the entrance to the property itself. Outside of the property there was a road that joined into the road (T-junction) that the queued cars were in. At this T-junction some cars would come along and chance their luck and try and nip in this way to safe themselves an extra 15 minutes of queuing time. My standing spot was at the property entrance, about 30 yards away from this T-junction (with me?). So to prevent people from skipping ahead I would make eye contact with the person trying to skip in (from my standing spot) and wave them on. Mostly they'd just drive on, but sometimes they'd play dumb or ignore me, so I'd walk over, and in which case they'd either try persuade me to lmake an exception, or try getting me to jump through their hoops having me explaining things to them... all in the hopes of skipping ahead.

So what I did eventually with the likes of such people (after I was sure they were being difficult), is I would walk over and let them think that I was going over to deal with their dumb explanation, but instead I would stop on the footpath right at the T-junction (opposite their car). Instead of making any eye contact with them, I would make eye contact with the car in the other lane (the one they're trying to skip in in front of) just to make sure they'd be awake. Then I would not do anything until the space began to open up, and only then, would I quickly signal that car forward to fill up the space. As the space was being filled I would quickly turn my back and walk back to my standing spot. Often both cars would move for the gap at the same time, only for person trying to skip to be blocked off... the car trying to skip would never be able to get in from the angle it was coming from.

That is how you give a response instead of a reaction. It would take some of them so long to figure out what I was actually doing! Lets just say some of the reactions I got were well worth a watch. They weren't annoyed that I wasted their time, but because I didn't entertain their argument and thus made them feel small. On one occasion, as the car that had to move on later passed by, the person shouted some nasty stuff out the window. But such abuse didn't bother me as it was only an acceptance of defeat.

Tale three

I know this one might sound a bit troll like, but when my sister and I used to share the main toilet in our house, she used to leave her skid marks on the porcelain. I used to always tidy my own marks after myself while they were fresh. But as regards her marks, I used to take the view of "why should I have to tidy her shit stains?". But by not doing so I just became more annoyed. One night she had been away for a few days and my father happened to go into the main bathroom. He gave out to me for not keeping it tidy after seeing the shit stains she'd left from a few days before! The only reason I didn't give out to her about it in the first place was because I didn't want to embarrass her! From then on I'd no sympathy for her, and she kept it clean after that for fear of embarrassment.

Tale four

After I'd been working in a filling station for about a month, there was a girl who had just been hired, who one day was given the task of emptying out the grounds contents from the two coffee machines. When I was busy serving customers I saw her bring one of these containers up from the shop floor and dump it into the bin behind the till. It should've seemed strange to her to dump this into a bin that contained only receipts.

Later on when I was tidying down around the coffee area I saw that one of the customer bins contained the coffee grounds contents dumped into it. She dumped these from the container through the small circular hole in the counter! She didn't think to open door from underneath. She presumably did this with the first one before bringing the other up to the till area. Anyway half of these ground contents had fallen down outside of the lining of the bin! I sorted it out of course. But when you tidy up someone else's mess you might want some recognition for it. I knew that the manager didn't care too much, and that if I mentioned it to him, that I'd look like a squealer or a whingebag. But I knew it had to have been her, as it wasn't me, and it couldn't have been the manager.

Anyway later on we were both in the stock area doing separate tasks. I went over to her to ask her (nicely) about it. She denied it though! Stupid ah! I still kindly told her where to dump it in future instead of doing so behind the tills. Just after I did this, she asked me the time! Asking me the time was kind of like a way of saying that she wasn't even listening to what I just said. Like a fool I took out my phone and answered. We weren't supposed to have phones on use while working! A few seconds later the manager walked out of the office and asked me to do some other job. I wondered if he'd seen me on the camera over talking to her and thought that I was't working. It annoyed me as it must have looked very different to what it was! Sometimes in a situation like this you just have to let it go. I only made things worse by asking her.
 
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Is anyone here petty? Be honest. Do you like to get your own back on people over small things to prove a point? Do you like giving someone a taste of their own medicine?

Quick macro view here.

When i was growing up, i don't know why a particular teacher hates me. My uncle used to dislike me too. My junior grade schoolmates always associate me with lower tier girls. and kinda despise me when i go up, and girls who are cute, likes me for me.

So yea, i am petty. I also didn't know that i like to win.

and this has reflected passively in my Girlschase posts where DK and some of the guys kinda sense that painbody. Added, The idea of many of my Girlschase post is that i am trying to put in too many ideas into one post. This has not make it "linear" for readers. It also kinda pisses Girlschase readers off.

I am still petty in a sense when i am around humans. I won't start the racket, but when it starts, i will start. It is just how humans are where we are in a tribe.. Though i will be more strategic, vengeful and forceful that it makes the tribes around very uncomfortable if the person is someone i dislike very very terribly.

Pettiness stems from a lot of issues. It's a lot of bad states, stacked throughout many years. Don't be too hard on yourself. It's a worldwide mental health issue. Everyone has it.

z@c+
 

ulrich

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I think pettiness is a somewhat common attitude in competitive men.
After all is about winning. Defeating the competition.

I used to be a little petty when I was younger but I have found that as I grow and earn more money, know more people, date more girls... I need those small wins less and less.
15 years ago I would have gotten into fights to not tip a bad waiter. Nowadays I just don’t care.
I rather let others have those small wins. I’m focused on more important things.

So this is a warning.
Pettiness is competitiveness, it is liking to win. That is cool.
But don’t get trapped into winning small things. Aim for important things, bigger projects, bigger wins.
 

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Yeah, like letting DarkKnight click 'like' to Zac Adam's post (which we all know he didn't read), and not mine! Ha!

I did read it and it was a genuine like.

You're post however was a bit too long to read if you really want to know.
 

Virgin101

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I did read it and it was a genuine like.
Then what did you learn from it apart from the fact he made reference to you?

Why is some of it randomly in bold? Is it the more nebulous stuff that he puts in bold? You do realise he's high as a kite?
You're post however was a bit too long to read if you really want to know.
That's why I divided it up into four different tales... so the reader can read how ever many they want. At least I've actually got something real to say, unlike this:

Zac Adam - "Pettiness stems from a lot of issues. It's a lot of bad states, stacked throughout many years. Don't be too hard on yourself."

What?? He never says anything that I can either agree or disagree with. It's all hazy with random words.
 
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I'm not about to explain myself for someone who is clearly trying to antagonize. Like you are. Have fun with being petty.
 

Mr.Rob

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Being petty hurts the user as much as the person they're trying to "get back". It's an ego thing. And imo kinda weak.

Hard to imagine a John Wayne or Clint Eastwood character worrying too much about some trifle to concoct scheme's to get one over.

If you've got an issue best just to address it and handle the problem.

Reading your tales 1+3 wouldn't have even crossed my mind to do.

Id just be like whatever, or if it bothered me I'd ask them to do things differently and solve it then n there.

Idk I know some ppl make a sport out of it but I'm always trying to find win-win solutions rather than win-lose.

Collaborative vs competitive frame in day to day life.
 
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trashKENNUT

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He never says anything that I can either agree or disagree with. It's all hazy with random words.

It was a quick macro view, a quick screenshot of why i think that pettiness exist.
I think that you might have missed that sentence where i indicate it.


Now, if you consider this.
I know that you might not be into self help, but this is a real help for anyone.

This willl repair your mental states. And mind everyone. I am not a Christian. :)


z@c+
 

Virgin101

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Flame War: this post has been rated a "Flame War post" by forum members
It was a quick macro view, a quick screenshot of why i think that pettiness exist.
I think that you might have missed that sentence where i indicate it.


Now, if you consider this.
I know that you might not be into self help, but this is a real help for anyone.

This willl repair your mental states. And mind everyone. I am not a Christian. :)


z@c+
Would you read a book if I recommended one to you? Because you obviously didn't read anything in my original post. It would be one thing if you were able to read one the stories and then tell me how you would've handled a situation instead.

Why would I read your book when you know that I think you're deluded? It is extremely arrogant to claim that you know enough about a person to know what book they need to read.

If I have any more threads can I ask you to please not post in those ones??
 
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I know you are pissed but you antagonizing other members was really unnecessary.

It really was unnecessary.
Your small win here just earned you a flag from me.

The Flame War Flag!

YEAY. Congratulations. *Clap Clap Clap Clap*

z@c+
 

Virgin101

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Reading your tales 1+3 wouldn't have even crossed my mind to do.

Id just be like whatever, or if it bothered me I'd ask them to do things differently and solve it then n there.
I appreciate you reading that much as there was a good deal of text.

I'd like if you elaborated on asking "them to do things differently"?
 

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Anyway one day as this staff member walked past me, he said to two other members of staff "I'm just gonna have Eoin (manager) check it because it's just so awkward doing it with him". I'm not saying he did this deliberately to annoy me, but he could've at least realised that I was going to hear it.

I'm not sure I would've even interpretted this as an attack, but just thought you wouldn't hear it.

Anyway if it were me and it bothered me I probably would've just smiled at him and said "hey man I'll try not to make this bag check too awkward for ya" (hold eye contact till he gets noticeably uncomfortable) "ah I'm just fucking with ya man, how'd your day go man?"

And then that would've been it. He'd probably be cool and would think before he speaks (and probably have a bit more respect for you as well since he got caught and you called him out in a socially calibrated way).

As for tale 2 I don't totally understand it but doesn't sound too bad, I guess you found a solution to help make it fair for everyone.

From then on I'd no sympathy for her, and she kept it clean after that for fear of embarrassment.

Not totally sure what you mean here. Your dad gave out to you about it and you ratted her out or you took the blame and then gave her shit for it when she got back?

Anyway I would've just let her save face and take the blame from your dad and then when she gets back just say "hey kinda embarrassing to talk about but Dad keeps walking into the bathroom and giving me blame for not cleaning the skid marks after dropping Mrs. Brown's kids off at the pool, so just want to give you a heads up since neither of us wants to get embarrassed to brush the bowl after each use... Cuz I love ya sis but I aint taking the heat for you if you forget ;P"

Or if its really a pet peeve for you then do something similar but just say it bugs you and it's a dumb pet peeve and that you'd appreciate it. She'd prob be embarrassed and not do it again.

Regarding situation 4 rather than asking her I'd just say "hey I think you might've dumped the coffee grounds through the wrong hole. no worries this time I cleaned it up and had your back so the manager didn't see but next time the best way to do it is [explain how to do it]"

Then she'll just be like "oh cool got it" or if she's immature and does the phone thing still just be like "yeah lost track myself.. I'm sure it'll be over before too long"

Anyway in all man when you do petty things to intentionally hurt people you're just putting more negativity into the world and when you inflict negativity it doesn't just hurt them but it hurts you to. Just like when you judge others you instill negativity into yourself.

If you wan to be a powerful man who is a leader you may want to reconsider these petty things and taking the high road to be someone who fosters win-win situations and shows your a standup person.

Not gonna lie the scenario #1 you point out struck me as very immature and somewhat cowardly. If someone did that to me I'd just kind of laugh that they went that far out of their way to do that and feel sorry for them that it affected them that much.

I mean I'm not trying to point fingers at you or anything, but you may want to reconsider these behaviors and whether or not the man you aspire to thinks and handles things passive aggressively vs head on and solves the problem.

So food for thought, Interesting discussion though, it's good to be aware of the petty things we sometimes get our ego's wrapped up about.

I'm not saying I'm immune, we certainly all get bent out of shape by petty problems that really have no meaning in the grand scheme of things and are a waste of time.

Always good to be on the look out for what these are and work to respond better to them.
 

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@Virgin101 has received a 2-week temporary ban to chill out.

This was not his first warning from moderators, and in fact the bad behavior came days after he'd promised to knock off this sort of behavior.
 
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