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Tyme2k

Cro-Magnon Man
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If you've read my whole journal you'd know about this girl. This is the complete LR from open to close.

Saturday Feb 9th 2013:
My wing plays in a social league, they are throwing an event at Blue cue. The event is you wear a color t-shirt that represents your relationship status. I take 5 shots of vodka and start walking to Blue Cue, about 10 blocks from me.

Arrive. I open everything(place is fucking packed!) that has potential and I come to a two set. One girl a bit over weight and the target, Asian with full sleeves tatoo'd on her arms. Amazing body, features and ass, petite just really my ideal type and the hottest girl in the bar. I stop them kino open and say,"HI! Hows your night going?" (My goto opener now thanks to Alex) It goes incredible and I run this set like a baus! I talk about how my friend is wearing green and that means he's a pervert. They love it then I say to the hot asian she should be wearing green cause I can tell she's a perv. She is confused then I say I saw the green Exit sign and thought of her. This blew the entire set. She got very upset and analyzed what I said. She said in a very annoyed tone," I'm done talking to you" and walked away. I was completely non-reactive, stood my ground and kept talking to the other one staying completely solid.

I am always at my best after getting blown out hard like that. My state skyrockets and I continue to open to maintain momentum.

I see the hot Asian by herself looking lost. I approach with AMAZING eye contact. The eye contact I learned could potentially save a lost set. And OMG was I right. I open her staring dead in her eyes and a sexy smile,"Hi" we banter back and forth and eventually she is telling me she really likes me. She is glad we're talking again and she apologizes and explains herself. She also says how what I did was impressive, standing there unaffected with my eye contact. I find out she has two kids and is 36! I am completely in awe at how amazing this woman looks for her age. I tease that she looks 22 and she teases me saying she doesn't usually talk to guys as young as me. I end up number closing, and don't go for the pull since I planned to stay with my FB tonight.

Me 2/10 1:06A - Hey! 22 yr old.. ur a bit younger than I usually go for :p but lets hang out soon - Tyler
Me 2/11 4:51p - Asian Ink! Drinks this week? What's your schedule like?
Me 2/16 5:55p - Come out tonight, going to the park.

At this point I'm done, no chasing, abundance, no response I walk. I was really wondering why this happened though because the bubble we created in the middle of the packed bar was amazing. It's really rare I can vibe so quickly with someone as we did. However, this impacted her as well with I found out a few days later.

Her 2/20 7:24p - Hey you :)
Me 7:59p - What's up girlie?
Her 8:57p - Just finished a yoga class. You?
Me 9:50p - Workin on that 6pk, nice.. Bout to meet some friends for a bit, why what's up?
Her 9:59 - Nothing's up, just saying hi. Have a nice night out
Me 10:08p - Whats ur schedule like this weekend?
Her 10:49p - Not sure yet. Hoping to have a chill weekend cause I've been studying like mad this week. Maybe Friday?
Me 2/21 11:53a- I'll be free around 7 on friday a bit. Lets grab a coffee, keep it low key.
Her 1:51p - Sure sounds good. Do you have a place you like to go?
Me 4:37p - Yep Starbucks on (address)
Her 8:20p - Ok see you then :)

(previously posted in my day2 FR)Met at coffee shop, closed it down at 8p. Went straight to my place and sat on my bed. Talked for a while then made out. Pulled her to lay with me and made out, talked, escalated. Eventually I was on top of her kissing her stomach getting her BT through the roof. At times she was extremely turned on, but I would kind of let it die down. She told me I wasn't getting her pants off and I was lucky I got her sweater off. I just stayed nonreactive.

She kept asking,"what type of girl do you think I am?" I would say things like one who knows what she wants, and I know what you want. Funny thing She asked me what she wants and I censored myself and she called me on it! crazy, but I remained nonreactive still and then uncensored myself.

I got her pants unbuttoned and played with her panty line. We joked if she was naked there she still wouldn't be able to get my pants off. I probably really could have ripped her pants off idk. I finally said jokingly get out of my house, gave her a ride back to her car cause it's cold. Dropped her off she tells me to text her "something nice."

Me 2/23 4:52p - Hey u, something nice ;P I was thinking about dinner, I'll buy, but we're cooking it at my place. Thinking italian, deal?
Her 7:03p - That sounds perfect ;) I have to admit, it's pretty hot that you cook
Me 2/24 11:17a - So Friday? What time are u free? (notice I ignored the validation compliment, I'm trying to free myself from seeking validation and reactions)
Her 2/24 12:29p - Friday would work. Let me check a few things and let you know a specific time ;)
Me 7:06p - K :)
Her 7:10p - Hey u how was your day?
Me 9:03p - Pretty busy, will be nice to get breather. Hope urs is good too
Her 9:46p - (my trip) was amazing. It was so nice being near the water. So Friday, I'm free after 6pm
Me 2/25 6:26p - 6 is perfect :) (I got a bit nervous no text back for a while, thought it might have been cause I didn't text back like most chodes)
Me 2/27 5:25p - Hey Asian Ink! Just checking in, hope your week is going great :)
Her 6:09p - Hey ;) Been writing papers and studying for exams mostly. Gives me a good reason to spend times at my fave cafes and catch up with friends tho! What about you? (See how much investment I love it)
Me 8:15p - Sounds challenging and fun at the same time :D I'm so busy and lovin it, cant wait for our cook off tho :p Hey, good luck on your exams!
Her 9:13p - Thanks! Me too ;) I'll bring wine. My only request is something vegetarian or chicken. Hope that doesn't mess w your plan to much. Let me know if I can bring anything else(more investment should have had her bring salad)
Me 2/28 1:37p - Whaaat, that ruins everything.. Meat lovers extra pepperoni frozen pizza, greasy! I'm good tho I have everything, making chicken, I'm not too big on red meat.
Her 7:35p - Lol.. you're silly ;))
Her 3/1 3:27 - Hey can you text me your address? It was dark last time I was over ;)
Me 3:34p - Oh, almost forgot :) (Address) If you cant find it call me.

Asian Ink texts me that she will be late, I start to think she might flake. I'm not worried about the flake because I'm guest listed for the fashion show after party. I Start boiling the water so I can get an early start.

Asian Ink shows up wearing yoga pants, I know she really wants to fuck. I should have took her right away, but I was hungry. We talk for a while not even worried about food. She brought wine, but I don't have a cork screw. I go out try to use my social skills to woo a neighbor for one. All he has is a Swiss army knife, its too small cant open the wine. We take off to Safeway and I buy a cork screw. Mission accomplished. Get back drink some wine, finish dinner. Cooked chicken Parmesan with spaghetti and salad, came out flawless. She doesn't eat much and I can tell she really only came over for one thing. I start escalating even before we clear our plates. I take my time and move extremely slow. I just stay close to her and tease her body, she really enjoys this and makes a comment how most guys just rush in. I'm almost always like this because I actually enjoy moving slow, it makes the sex much more enjoyable by building anticipation. Girls love it also cause you don't seem needy, pushy or desperate.

Anyway we fuck for 2 hours straight, then relax for about an hour. We go for another hour, this time I go bareback, oops. I definitely shouldn't do this, but damn I hate condoms. Then we pass out. I don't finish.

She wakes up around 530 am wakes me up says she forgot her contact case at home, but wants to come back. I tell her just to go home and get what she needs to done. She gets upset and then gets dressed. She says bye before she leaves and I pull her in and take her clothes off. We fuck for another hour, I try to get her to finish me, but she isn't taking the hints. We end up having sex one more time and I finally finish by pulling out. I personally love blowjobs, I did tell her and she said next time we finish in the shower, understandable.

We met for coffee and spent about 5 hours just talking. I really think she is awesome, definitely one of the coolest chicks I've met. Obviously my goals are what they are, but we'll be having some amazing times together.
 

Mr. Wes

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Wow.. That is inspiring. Good job and I really like how you are unfazed by things. She sounds like a pretty amazing girl.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

newgameplus

Space Monkey
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excellent work tyme.

"(notice I ignored the validation compliment, I'm trying to free myself from seeking validation and reactions)" i like this mindset, but i don't think it's bad to acknolwedge validation, just don't bathe in it.

like some guys might go overboard and go like "YOU KNOW IT BABE" or etc. as a response to it being hot you can cook. i think playing humility+humor in this case is also acceptable or perhaps even better, something along the lines of, "i had to graduate from top ramen sooner or later right?" or "i'm alright ;)" (alright at cooking). an example i can bring to the table would be gf/bf attraction management through proper acknowledgement of validation.

my girlfriend sent me a text and said "i'll be thinking about you the whole time!" it was a response to her not being able to hang out since she needs to do errands which i was cool with, i said it's all good and that i haven't had the chance to hang out with some buddies lately so i'll go kick it with them.

that's a pretty validating statement if you ask me. this is where i feel like a lot of guys fuck up.
1. douchebags that hookup but hurt girls would totally disregard that statement which is pretty mean, because it's a very vulnerable thing to say (we haven't been together for that long, and she dropped that already)
2. betas that got lucky and got into a relationship all of a sudden and are just 10000% thinking of the girl they're with would respond like "AWW THANKS I'LL BE THINKING OF YOU ALL DAY TOO" which is fucking terrible. no. just no. that's literally bathing in the validation of her thinking of you, and sends a lot of power her way.

so i acknowledged her validation but i didn't bathe in it. it ended up being a verbal push pull which intensified her attraction to me by like a billion. it went down like this.

her: "i'll be thinking of you the whole time while i do my errands :p"
me: "you don't really have to go that far man, it's all good. if you do i'll be troubled a bit to be honest haha"
her: "ahaha what do you mean by that?" ( i can tell she's a bit nervous here because she seems like she thinks she's just hit a landmine and that i don't feel as strongly for her as she does me or something, which is why i don't want her to think of me all the time. )
me: "well if you think of me all the time it'll be dangerous while you drive, and shopping will take you hours because you wont focus on what you need!"
me: "but it's okay for you to think of me 110% of the time when we're hanging out :)"
her: "ohh, i see i see! you're so nice newgameplus! well i'll still think of you the entire time anyway!"

mission accomplished.

"I take my time and move extremely slow. I just stay close to her and tease her body, she really enjoys this and makes a comment how most guys just rush in. I'm almost always like this because I actually enjoy moving slow" yeah going slow in general seems to be the best route. foreplay is always good and it just primes them more and more. i've noticed that "bursts of passion" chase talks about works effectively, and then cooling down. it shows a lot of the things you stated. i like how you took your time and didn't go in for the kill when she gave you LMR and you drove her back home and jokingly said to her to get out of your house. you kept tension up and showed you really don't need to fuck and you're not desperate.

your persistence paid off big time man, keep it up. i've been enjoying good progress myself lately. it really is all thanks to the things i've learned from this website and reading everybody's experiences.

btw i like how you took the time to mention time gap between texts. that was gooid.
 

Tyme2k

Cro-Magnon Man
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Thanks Wes and Newgame.

A few things in response newgame, don't get me wrong in a gf/bf situation I will accept the validation warm and kindly. In the beginning cat and mouse bullshit I don't want it. It feeds my ego and hinders my ability to progress forward. What happens is, it feels good to get validated, so I start seeking it. I want all my interactions to go smooth and then I search for validation. If they don't go smooth and I don't get validated I feel shitty and in my head.. I guess it's just a personal thing I'm working out.

About the time gap, on our date after the sex she mentioned this, talked about how I'm so inconsistent with texts lol. She was kinda prying why. I thought it was pretty silly. I told her I'm usually pretty busy and don't want to rush my texts.

Hope it wasn't too long for you guys, I just like to be very detailed.
 

newgameplus

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"What happens is, it feels good to get validated, so I start seeking it. I want all my interactions to go smooth and then I search for validation. If they don't go smooth and I don't get validated I feel shitty and in my head.. I guess it's just a personal thing I'm working out."
ahh okay, i gotchu. yeah, we all definitely got our own problems we gotta deal with. i personally don't have this problem (unless i'm overly emotionally invested in a girl which never happens anymore, never again dude, never again) but when you put it that way i can understand how it's frustratingly hindering. because i do know what it's like.

"About the time gap, on our date after the sex she mentioned this, talked about how I'm so inconsistent with texts lol. She was kinda prying why. I thought it was pretty silly. I told her I'm usually pretty busy and don't want to rush my texts."
she was kinda prying why? lol she wants the D man. that's a good response though, that you're busy and you don't want to rush your texts. but what i meant by time gap was your literal time stamping of day and time of text, and how many days later until you got the next texts lol. that was very precise and cool.

i feel like saying something like "don't want to rush my texts" might imply you put too much investment into them though, like she might think "oh so he takes his time to respond to me?" do you get what i mean? but i like backing up your reasons for being inconsistent with texts with more than just "im busy" because that's a bit curt and distant. but "don't want to rush my texts" might be showing too much investment, however i like the feel of that line..

perhaps "i don't like to constantly check my phone since it's a distraction. i only check it if it rings for a phone call because then i know it's urgent" may be better.

btw i didn't mind the length at all, i'd prefer people to be this accurate with all reports, because true understanding comes through being able to read and see the details.
 

Tyme2k

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charming said:
Well done Tyme!

Thanks for allowing us to learn from your experience. Question: in hindsight do you think you could have closed on the first date? Either way, I'm impressed with your first date recovery! I've yet to get another shot after a failed seduction.

I'm not sure if it would have been possible to close on the first day 2. Asian Ink and I talked about this on our 5 hour date after sex. She had a feeling that something was off, which it was, I had sex the previous day with my FB and did not break it off until the Sunday after our date. She is very intune to energy and energy transfer, she also meditates and does yoga every day. She felt I was incongruent some how and was reluctant. I think with solid persistance and moving faster I may have been able to close, but I am very glad I didn't as the quality may have been lacking. My performance would not have been what it was and the connection wouldn't have been as powerful. Probably a one night stand..

I think the reason I was able to close after the failed seduction was I was unaffected by it. I conveyed that it wasn't a big deal we didn't sleep together. I also created a huge connection and portrayed myself as a sexual man. There was solid and smooth escalation, where both of us were never uncomfortable. I have failed seduction numerous times and lost the girl, so this taught me to remain unaffected and pull through. Also I had double booked and told her, I kept telling her as I was escalting that we should go, but continued to escalate. I put my friends on hold for a moment to do what I really wanted and what she wanted. Then after I did not chase and pushed for another meet.

The things I pulled off with this girl debunk a lot of common beliefs, I burnt the set to the ground, resurrected it, failed seduction and still closed.

The best thing is she is extremely intelligent and there's never a dull moment. She is also very sexual, so this makes me a happy man. We are meeting this wednesday which she said either she can come over without clothes on or we could get coffee lol. I responded with a comment that "got her wet".. I will stop posting our text conversations though as the "game" is over, but you get my point. It usually becomes this easy for me after I sleep with women, guess it comes down to making sure you take care of her. This is definitely one of my strngths that I take pride in and all of us here should make a point to give these women an amazing sexual experience. If only I could portray this better from the start I could probably pull 1000 times better..
 

NarrowJ

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Nice work, Tyme!

I've been very successful closing with women the very next date after getting LMR. If I get the LMR on the first date, and it's strong (she's saying absolutely "no way"), then at that point its all about keeping your composure as you did in this situation. Usually this is a girl's attempt at showing you she's not a slut/whore/etc because she likes you a lot. Hell, I can handle that. ;)
 

Mr. oblivious

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Nice LR

Just a tip or something to consider generally if you going to have a large meal or think your going to have a large meal with a girl try plan it early cause right after you have eaten is the worse time to try escalate. (lucky in this case she didn't eat much ) (she is 36 so from experience she probably knew not to eat if the act was going to take place)


Good job oldie but a goodie
 
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