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Aspiring Ace: Why some guys have ambitious goals with women and social life

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I recently came across Chase's post about social life and he mentioned "The Ace", something that describes the kind of person I want to aspire to be almost perfectly. For those of you who have not checked it out, here is the article.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/gett ... -hard-work

A lot of guys who are just happy with a hot girlfriend or happy with a handful of cool friends might ask why some guys would want to spend so much time, energy and pretty much their life worth to be "The Ace". Why some guys want to get with multiple hot girls, be at the top of the social ladder, have the cool friends, be a part of the coolest social circles and live the high life. I always wondered this because I've had a ton of success with dating since I first came on Girlchase. When I first came on here, I could hardly get any women but now I can get multiple dates a week from just dating apps alone. Not to brag too much but I know that the vast majority of men will happily trade places with me when it comes to women and dating given how much the average guy out there struggles.

Then I wonder why despite all this, I am not fulfilled or happy with the game, I want the social life to go from decent where it is at now to getting even better which I don't even know what it looks like. I want to spend the night out with some hot girls and my cool guy crew of friends that are like my bros to me. It is always in my desire to have the social status, rich powerful friends, belong to the top of the social ladder and also get hot girls as well.

But why? What led to this? What leads men in general to actively pursuing that?

The answer, I have to admit, is simple. A lack of success in youth and feelings of insignificance during times when this stuff meant a lot.

I mean feelings of insignificance during high school when this stuff was starting to matter and as I found out, surprisingly, during college when this stuff was life or death.

The Aspiring Ace was never a part of the cool kids in those years and even if he had some social success, it was nothing to brag about. An Aspiring Ace was never the guy who was called to sorority formals, partying with hot girls on Halloween, Tacky Christmas with the sororities or getting thrashed on Spring Break with his college love. I'll say that the Aspiring Ace was probably the kid who didn't even have any of those going on in college, he was always the misfit and always the guy who had nothing to really look back on in those days. If he had somewhat of a college experience, it paled in comparison to that of a guy in the top tier fraternity or some football player.

Because most of the top tier guys from youth tend to settle, the naturals rarely chase this life.

The drive, the ambition, the hunger and that desperate need to live this sort of a life we aren't even sure exists is what keeps you going. It makes you take the best pics, have the sweetest social media account, work hard to make a lot of money, move to the prime spots in the world instead of staying in bumpkin country where everyone is married by 25 (no offense) and hustling hard. I feel like lack is what really drives a lot of men to greatness in the end, that chip on your shoulder and that push, that moment in your life where you get attacked by reality and told how utterly insignificant you are.

It happens to the best of athletes.

Michael Jordan could not make the varsity team in high school.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round.

Some of the best MMA fighters like George St Pierre were bullied growing up.

By that logic, wouldn't most guys who were incel growing up turn out to have that drive and some success at least?

That would be the most sane question to ask. At any point in life, very few guys are slaying or doing well with the opposite sex or even social life. By this logic then the guys with incel youth should have something to look forward to then correct?

Not exactly, I have a theory and it centers around CIRCUMSTANCE.

Take your average "Chad" or natural, in most cases growing up they had things like a somewhat stable upbringing in a decent environment. A lot of them did not grow up in places with utter poverty or those where the average girl you see is right off of a hood fight video. Most of them likely had the ball roll in their direction a few times and had a lot of decent chances to make life workout. In many ways they lived the typical life, not dealing with things like being home schooled or going to a school in a really sketch area full of some dangerous characters.

If your Aspiring Ace would have had those circumstances, he would have likely done okay and not even bothered to live the high life.

So an Aspiring Ace in many ways is a natural that fell into some bad circumstances in life. He might have had a lot of ambition, drive and thirst but due to a bad environment, toxic family and a host of other things during a time of his life when he was not even old enough to drive, he ended up missing out. Maybe he grew up in an environment where there were not many decent looking women available.

The majority of cases, a guy that was meant to be incel will probably always be an incel or have just a decent level of success he will be happy with.

The guy who was meant to be a natural, under normal circumstances, will be a natural and then retire from the game a couple years after college.

The Aspiring Ace?

He could very well be a potential natural with a chip on his shoulder who needs to keep on playing the game and climbing to the highest heights.

Yet the "highest heights" in high school and university differ immensely from those in the real world, immensely....
 

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Then I wonder why despite all this, I am not fulfilled or happy with the game, I want the social life to go from decent where it is at now to getting even better which I don't even know what it looks like. I want to spend the night out with some hot girls and my cool guy crew of friends that are like my bros to me. It is always in my desire to have the social status, rich powerful friends, belong to the top of the social ladder and also get hot girls as well.

To me it seems like you are seeking validation and acceptance to this life you have in your head with hot girls and a certain type of social circle. You should appreciate all the small victories that you have had since coming to these boards more (dating and socially) and stop beating yourself up over these more shallow goals that you have a pattern of continuously posting about.

Stop trying to compensate for your bad high school and college years man. Have you ever gone to see a therapist? It might help you, seriously.

Michael Jordan could not make the varsity team in high school.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round.

Some of the best MMA fighters like George St Pierre were bullied growing up.

These are bad examples. Each one of these had success as a by-product of hard work to achieve a goal, mainly centered around sports, not some superficial goal like have "hot girls" as friends or be at the top of a social ladder.

It all comes back to value. What value do you provide that will make hot girls want to be around you? To be at the top of a social ladder? Then if you get there what happens next? I'm sure it's not what you are thinking it will be in your head. Which leads me to... live life according to your values and continue to meet like-minded people... those are the people you will want to surround yourself with. Not chasing superficial goals.
 

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So you got all 64 lays off apps?

Mind showing the process? How long it take? How did you make time for all of them with a career?




Oh Pry said:
I recently came across Chase's post about social life and he mentioned "The Ace", something that describes the kind of person I want to aspire to be almost perfectly. For those of you who have not checked it out, here is the article.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/gett ... -hard-work

A lot of guys who are just happy with a hot girlfriend or happy with a handful of cool friends might ask why some guys would want to spend so much time, energy and pretty much their life worth to be "The Ace". Why some guys want to get with multiple hot girls, be at the top of the social ladder, have the cool friends, be a part of the coolest social circles and live the high life. I always wondered this because I've had a ton of success with dating since I first came on Girlchase. When I first came on here, I could hardly get any women but now I can get multiple dates a week from just dating apps alone. Not to brag too much but I know that the vast majority of men will happily trade places with me when it comes to women and dating given how much the average guy out there struggles.

Then I wonder why despite all this, I am not fulfilled or happy with the game, I want the social life to go from decent where it is at now to getting even better which I don't even know what it looks like. I want to spend the night out with some hot girls and my cool guy crew of friends that are like my bros to me. It is always in my desire to have the social status, rich powerful friends, belong to the top of the social ladder and also get hot girls as well.

But why? What led to this? What leads men in general to actively pursuing that?

The answer, I have to admit, is simple. A lack of success in youth and feelings of insignificance during times when this stuff meant a lot.

I mean feelings of insignificance during high school when this stuff was starting to matter and as I found out, surprisingly, during college when this stuff was life or death.

The Aspiring Ace was never a part of the cool kids in those years and even if he had some social success, it was nothing to brag about. An Aspiring Ace was never the guy who was called to sorority formals, partying with hot girls on Halloween, Tacky Christmas with the sororities or getting thrashed on Spring Break with his college love. I'll say that the Aspiring Ace was probably the kid who didn't even have any of those going on in college, he was always the misfit and always the guy who had nothing to really look back on in those days. If he had somewhat of a college experience, it paled in comparison to that of a guy in the top tier fraternity or some football player.

Because most of the top tier guys from youth tend to settle, the naturals rarely chase this life.

The drive, the ambition, the hunger and that desperate need to live this sort of a life we aren't even sure exists is what keeps you going. It makes you take the best pics, have the sweetest social media account, work hard to make a lot of money, move to the prime spots in the world instead of staying in bumpkin country where everyone is married by 25 (no offense) and hustling hard. I feel like lack is what really drives a lot of men to greatness in the end, that chip on your shoulder and that push, that moment in your life where you get attacked by reality and told how utterly insignificant you are.

It happens to the best of athletes.

Michael Jordan could not make the varsity team in high school.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round.

Some of the best MMA fighters like George St Pierre were bullied growing up.

By that logic, wouldn't most guys who were incel growing up turn out to have that drive and some success at least?

That would be the most sane question to ask. At any point in life, very few guys are slaying or doing well with the opposite sex or even social life. By this logic then the guys with incel youth should have something to look forward to then correct?

Not exactly, I have a theory and it centers around CIRCUMSTANCE.

Take your average "Chad" or natural, in most cases growing up they had things like a somewhat stable upbringing in a decent environment. A lot of them did not grow up in places with utter poverty or those where the average girl you see is right off of a hood fight video. Most of them likely had the ball roll in their direction a few times and had a lot of decent chances to make life workout. In many ways they lived the typical life, not dealing with things like being home schooled or going to a school in a really sketch area full of some dangerous characters.

If your Aspiring Ace would have had those circumstances, he would have likely done okay and not even bothered to live the high life.

So an Aspiring Ace in many ways is a natural that fell into some bad circumstances in life. He might have had a lot of ambition, drive and thirst but due to a bad environment, toxic family and a host of other things during a time of his life when he was not even old enough to drive, he ended up missing out. Maybe he grew up in an environment where there were not many decent looking women available.

The majority of cases, a guy that was meant to be incel will probably always be an incel or have just a decent level of success he will be happy with.

The guy who was meant to be a natural, under normal circumstances, will be a natural and then retire from the game a couple years after college.

The Aspiring Ace?

He could very well be a potential natural with a chip on his shoulder who needs to keep on playing the game and climbing to the highest heights.

Yet the "highest heights" in high school and university differ immensely from those in the real world, immensely....
 

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LOL I am killing it, a therapist is the last thing I need. Some people just want to knock others off their chase and call their goals toxic when in fact, this stuff matters. Why should men be attacked for wanting to build social value?
 

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To me it seems like you are seeking validation and acceptance to this life you have in your head with hot girls and a certain type of social circle. You should appreciate all the small victories that you have had since coming to these boards more (dating and socially) and stop beating yourself up over these more shallow goals that you have a pattern of continuously posting about.

Stop trying to compensate for your bad high school and college years man. Have you ever gone to see a therapist? It might help you, seriously.


These are bad examples. Each one of these had success as a by-product of hard work to achieve a goal, mainly centered around sports, not some superficial goal like have "hot girls" as friends or be at the top of a social ladder.

It all comes back to value. What value do you provide that will make hot girls want to be around you? To be at the top of a social ladder? Then if you get there what happens next? I'm sure it's not what you are thinking it will be in your head. Which leads me to... live life according to your values and continue to meet like-minded people... those are the people you will want to surround yourself with. Not chasing superficial goals.

Mindful has a good point. Meeting more and better quality women has been more of a byproduct of a life well lived than anything.
 

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This guy never responds when I ask him a question lmao
 

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Sub-Zero said:
This guy never responds when I ask him a question lmao

Well because you seem to keep asking and digging instead of really doing as I found on your college thread. Now as for the response to your question on this thread....

I got a lot of lays early on through cold approach as you could see through my lay reports, I did not succeed with dating apps early on.

Second of all, as for me having that success, I have literally written threads about it which you can find searching through my history.

Case in point:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17897
 

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It simple question that was either a yes or no.

I wasn't going to look through all of your threads.




Oh Pry said:
Sub-Zero said:
This guy never responds when I ask him a question lmao

Well because you seem to keep asking and digging instead of really doing as I found on your college thread. Now as for the response to your question on this thread....

I got a lot of lays early on through cold approach as you could see through my lay reports, I did not succeed with dating apps early on.

Second of all, as for me having that success, I have literally written threads about it which you can find searching through my history.

Case in point:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17897
 

Sub-Zero

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Yeah I was asking that in case you got all 64 off apps. If not, then ok.



Oh Pry said:
Mind showing the process? How long it take? How did you make time for all of them with a career?

I don't recall that at all.
 

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I see a lot of ad hominem attacks on OP, makes me sad :/

I agree with a lot of this, because the most important skill people can ever learn is the ability to learn. The ability to set goals, modify one's own behavior, ingest and analyze knowledge from a variety of sources, filter out the crap and integrate the meaningful and effective information into one's life -- that's the first step and what makes the difference between really successful people and ordinary ones. There are people that acquire this ability without having to suffer any great poverty, be it physical, mental, emotional, material, what have you. but these people are relatively rare. As they say, necessity is the mother of invention. When life forces you to learn and adapt in order to survive, one of two things happens. Either you die, in which case you're not here talk about it, or you learn how to learn. It's called the School of hard knocks.
 

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Saw a quote today that reminded me of this. I think it summarizes it well:

"Adversity has the effect of eliciting talents which in prosperous circumstance would have lain dormant." -Horace
 
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