"Attraction is there or it isn't" seems wrong

[Dragonetti]

It seems wrong and also contradicts other axioms here. Game itself is a process of creating attraction through vibe and behavior

• Being scarce creates attraction
• Not being needy creates attraction
• Social proof creates attraction
• Style and swagger creates attraction

Or am I missing something?

 

[raiden]

I'm below beginner level but I've read lots of GC. As I understand it, we can think of attraction as "that which gets you approach invitations". So being scarce or non needy is good game but doesn't create attraction. Since you get an approach invitation or you don't and you can only do so much to bait one, attraction is there or it isn't. A guy is attractive if he gets a good number of AIs. A guy is more attractive than he thinks if he gets lots of AIs that he doesn't notice, and so on.

Ever met a girl, made her laugh and enjoy the interaction but have a feeling that you will not get anywhere with her, and have the feeling confirmed when you ask her to, say, move with you? Attraction wasn't there and you tried to out game the lack of attraction. N.b. I believe that there are a few articles here about trying to date women who aren't attracted to you.

 

[James D]

Raw, instinctual attraction is either there or not.

Game allows you to excite and sleep with women who might not have felt that initial raw, primal attraction for you.

Game also allows you to sleep with women who might feel that raw attraction for you but nevertheless for some reason are hesitant to sleep with you.

(Just because she felt primal attraction for you does not guarantee she will jump in bed with you)

There are no contradictions.

The attraction that's either there or isn't is the raw, primal attraction determined within seconds.

The attraction generated via game is excitement, the same way a girl you might not be particularly into gives you boners by the way she acts sensual and sexy, exciting you.

All in all, the seduction is easier and has more room for mistakes the stronger her raw attraction for you is, which is why you should hone your fundamentals.

However, raw attraction is often not enough, even if it's there but especially when it's not.

That's when game gets into the picture.

 

[Will_V]

It seems wrong and also contradicts other axioms here. Game itself is a process of creating attraction through vibe and behavior

• Being scarce creates attraction
• Not being needy creates attraction
• Social proof creates attraction
• Style and swagger creates attraction

Or am I missing something?

Game doesn't create attraction, it capitalizes on it and magnifies it. Baseline attraction is not particularly rare. If you are a fairly attractive guy with good fundamentals girls are already attracted to some degree, but it won't be acted upon or turned into anything unless you have the game to develop it into a sexually charged interaction with a clear path (led by you) toward the bedroom.

Some of the things you mention do not create attraction but magnify it. Scarcity in itself means nothing - if it's something you don't want, so much the better! But if something is already attractive, and is also scarce, that creates curiosity and amplifies its perceived value. Not being needy doesn't really create attraction, but amplifies it, and the opposite destroys it.

Social proof, style and swagger may somewhat create attraction, but I've found that, at least in everyday situations, girls usually respond most to personality, chemistry, and the more subtle aspects of body language that tell her what kind of man you really are.