Barry's Older Women Journal

[BarryS1]

Been approaching for three months now, but have not posted much besides my newbie assignment. I wanted a journal for showing past approaches with older women and a place for posting new ones. There's nothing quite like being a 22 y.o. surprising an attractive older woman with an approach!

Attractive older women within the 30-45 y.o. range represent the most frequent demographic of day game the last three months. I have not seen a lot of information on the site and boards for older women, so I wanted to put some experiences down. Despite being in the last semester of college, I have found no time for socializing on campus. I have an internship and a full course-load so the only times available for meeting girls involves shopping for errands 2-4 times per week. I have some weekends available for night game, but running into attractive older women remains rare. I have a unique opportunity for approaching older women because of the demographics and geography of the neighborhood. Might as well go for it

My Motivation:
I want to take a chance at a large demographic of girls with little competition from other guys like myself (22 y.o.). I do approach younger girls, but not many reside in the neighborhood.

Journal Format:
Most of the entries will involve day game approaches in my neighborhood, but I’ll include night game approaches as well.

Neighborhood Geography (w/in 5 mile radius):
- Sprawling suburban neighborhood with homes having spacious front/back yards.
- 2 high schools, 5 middle schools.
- 5 full-size athletic clubs.
-10+ yoga studios.
- Miles of biking and walking trails in forested areas.
- 4 shopping centers with over 10 stores and 1 mall.

Neighborhood Demographics:
- Scarce amount of people w/in the 18-25 y.o. range.
- Nearest University (where I attend) is 25 miles away and Community college is 30. Most high school kids in my neighborhood aspire going away to college.
- Large population of athletic stay-at-home moms.
- Ethnicities in order of frequency: White, Asian, Indian, Middle-Eastern, Latina

 

[BarryS1]

Took an hour after my internship today to approach in a shopping center within my suburban neighborhood. Apparel consists of professional button-down long sleeve shirt, black bomber jacket, black khakis, sperry shoes, and a black ring. Approached a buxom Latina who looked in her early 30’s at Ross Department Store at 3pm. After spotting her, I grabbed a pair of socks as a “stage prop” and approached from the side. She appeared alone and in the middle of an aisle.

Me: Hi! (2 alligator pause).

Girl: Hi! (Loud voice and held eye contact).

Me: Are you single?

Girl: Oh! That’s really nice, thank you! Yes I am! (Super loud voice, I bet shopper four aisles over could hear her).

Me: Great, I thought you were attractive so I had to say hello. (I move closer).

Girl: Thanks, your really good looking too. (Still smiling).

Me: Cool. I’m just picking up a few things, just running a few errands day. How about you?

Girl: Oh, I’m hear with my Mom shopping.

Me: Well I hope I don’t have to get her permission to talk to you.

Girl: (Laughs) No, you don’t need anyone’s permission.

Me: That’s good. You know, I’m in a really big rush.

Girl: (Interrupts). Oh I didn’t want to hold you up.

Me: That’s okay. Would you like to see me again? Maybe we can grab a bite to eat sometime.

Girl: Sure that’d be great, I’m in the area. Let me give you my phone number, its 40.. (Extremely loud and enthusiastic mood).

Me: Whoa, wait hold up!

Girl: Huh?

Me: Don’t say it out loud, I do not want anyone else to get your number.

Girl: (Laughs loudly) Okay!

Me: (Hands her phone).

Girl: Here it is. My name is Denise by the way.

Me: I’m Barry. I don’t want to hold you up. Enjoy the rest of your day!

Girl: See ya!


Exiting the aisle, I noticed three girl hired guns looking at me in silence.

Texted her two hours later

Me: Denise, nice running into you today! Save my number – Barry =)

Denise: This isnt Denise..

Me: I apologize, did I say the wrong name? I’m the guy from Ross

Denise: (No response)


Today was a flop, but I had an opportunity of practicing banter. This was a MUCH better banter conversation than usual.

 

[BarryS1]

Earlier I posted about an interaction THAT day. I decided going backwards and recounting adventures from September after the Newbie Assignment in August. I will start posting significant dates and approaches starting in September.

September

Goal: Mass approach older women (not many young ones around here).

Reality: Found different niches among older women and discovered my preferred - Girl early 30s with a priority on career.

Dates: Two dates from two different women.

Thoughts: Approaching got so fun, I did not feel the need for socializing with friends. I went to college, internship, gym, and department stores. I was PERFECTLY content with that lifestyle.

So happy I asked a girl out and actually got a date in college. I thought the date a girl asked me out 1 1/2 yrs ago was going to be my last in college.

October

Goal: Continue the mass approach.

Reality: Entered into a casual relationship with a foreign girl. Our dates once/twice a week took a HUGE toll on my approach schedule. Barely cranked out 10 approaches for the month

Dates: Date every Friday and maybe one weekday with the same girl and ANOTHER from my neighborhood.

Thoughts: Started hanging out with friends for the first time in five months! Could not believe the amount of fun I had with a normal conversation. Along with friends, the casual relationship girl provided great support in a very busy time. Happiest month of my ENTIRE life by far!

Lost my virginity! BOOM

 

[BarryS1]

September – Categorizing Older Women

Chase’s article outlines three types of women encountered during daygame: surprised, accommodating, and immediate rejection. Here's the article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-pick-girls-shopping-gifts-or-groceries

I encountered the same reaction types during daygame, but writing in detail about the surprised category. I noticed the trend after approaching in September and still encounter the same two months later. Approaching older women with the surprised reaction results in laughing or walking away slowly. The strong girls stand their ground after the approach and laugh at my opening. The shy girls do not keep the conversation going and mutter inaudible words before walking away. Accommodating girls stand their ground and continue the conversation until I break it off.


Here’s the interactions for the following three types.

Shy Girl

Location: Lucky’s Super Market

Time 200pm 9/18

Did work for my internship at home and decided to browse a couple shopping centers before school. Went to Lucky’s and one look at the parking lot told me there was not many people in the store. I did not have time to wait around for other people to enter the store or stall approaching. Walked around the edge of the store until seeing a tall girl in gym clothes (HB-8, early 30s, white-brunette) in the dairy-cheese refrigerated aisle. She was not with anyone and alone in the aisle, so I walked up to her without hesitation and approached from the side. I usually keep my eyes fixed on the shelves and almost walk diagonal (crab-walk) until 10 ft. away from the girl.

Me: Hi!

Girl: (Looks towards me with no emotion on her face)

Me: Are you single?

Girl: Oh! um… Yessss. (Face gets red fast)

Me: I thought you were attractive and wanted to say hello.

Girl: Thanks, okay then. How old are you?

Me: Why don’t you take a guess? (Smiled and cocked head to side)

Girl: I don’t know, 23?

Me: Close, 24! (I’m actually 22)

Girl: Well, I thinks that is still a bit young (starts wheeling her cart away from me)

Me: How’s that a problem?

Girl: (Says nothing as moves around me)

Me: Okay, have a good one!

Girl: (Turns around, her face is BRIGHT red) Thanks you too

Takeaways:

Should of tried pushing for more conversation when she started wheeling her cart away. For ex, “Oh, can’t we get a little conversation going?” and touching her hand on the cart.

Strong Girl

Location: Kohl’s Department Store

Time: 215pm 9/18

Went to Kohl’s for the intention of approaching older women. Walked around the outskirts of the store until reaching the shoe section. Saw an athletic older girl (HB-9, 40s, blonde) in gym clothes looking at shoes. She was not tall enough for seeing over the shoe stands, so I could wait for other customers to leave the aisle. After other customers dispersed, I walked up to her from the side and opened. Being in the women’s section, I did not pretend looking for shoes.

Me: Hi!

Girl: (Looks over)

Me: Are you single?

Girl: (Loud bursting laugh for two seconds) Oh my gosh, no! Oh wow!

Me: Oh, I thought you were attractive and wanted to say hello.

Girl: Thanks for the compliment (Loud voice and turns her eyes to the shoes)

Me: I’m looking for some athletic cloths for the fall. What brings you here?

Girl: Um, shoes (Lets out a big sigh).

Me: (Awkward pause) Ok, I had to say hello. Enjoy the rest of your day!

Girl: (Soft voice) Okay you too.

Takeaways:

Did not know whether to keep pushing because the girl had a powerful exterior, but let up at the end. Looking back two months later, I should have picked out of a pair of shoes, commented on her cloths, and touched her arm. For ex, “Look at these white shoes, they would go great with your top” (touch her shoulder).


Accommodating girl

Location: Target

Time: 9/19 545pm

Went to the closest department store near the university in hopes of approaching girls my age, but ran into an older girl. I spotted the girl (HB-7, late 20s, white-brunette) in a crowded aisle. I circled around and stared at items on another shelf until she walked away from the crowd. I chased her unnoticed halfway around the store until settled in a deserted aisle. I noticed girls in large department stores dart from aisle-to-aisle and back again randomly. I prefer staying in the general area and peeking out of an aisle to gage her position every 20 sec or so. I walked slowly down the aisle while looking at the shelves until 15ft. from her (I opened far away so she would not run off).

Me: Hi!

Girl: Hi! (Not surprised at all I approached her)

Me: Are you single?

Girl: Yes I am actually!

Me: Great! I thought you were attractive and I wanted to say hello.

Girl: Wow! How nice, thank you!

Me: (smiled and paused)

Girl: So what do you do? Are you a student, do you work? What are you doing?

Me: What do I do? This is starting to sound like a contest! I actually do both.

Girl: (Laughs)

Me: I’m a programming major at X college and I work as well.

Girl: Interesting, never would of pinned you down as that. I am a law student at X. Do you know where that is?

Me: (Stunned that she’s a law student there, VERY prestigious school). Oh yeah! I can throw a rock from my school and reach yours.

Girl: (Smiles)

Me: Actually, I am in a huge rush, would you like to see me sometime, maybe we can grab something to eat.

Girl: Sure we can go for coffee. Let me give you my number, my name is Kristin by the way. (extends hand)

Me: Nice to meet you, I’m Barry.

Girl: (Still standing and smiling while putting in her number)

Me: I’m gonna go ring this stuff up now because I got class in 45 min. What are you up to later today?

Girl: Oh you know, just friend stuff.

Me: Busy then? Gotcha, nice meeting you and enjoy your friend stuff tonight.

Girl: Thanks have fun in class!


Phone conversation:

Me: Kristen, nice meeting you! Save my number – Barry =)

Girl: (No response).

Takeaways:

Should of taken Chase’s advice about asking for one thing. I asked to meet up later, but questioned about her plans for later that day. This was the first girl I encountered during daygame at a store who was single and kept talking to me. Writing this two months later, I still have not had the courage of asking a girl out the same day.

 

[BarryS1]

FR++ Professional Latina

Had the date in September, but did not have enough time to write until finishing college this week! Putting up my first date (I set up myself) as a reference point to critique myself in the future. The date has a theme as well, YOU SHOULD BE HAVING SEX. The date represents a time where I had high standards starting off in approach girls. I met the girl as part of the newbie assignment phone during the phone number day at a lounge. Won’t be posting every sentence of dialogue, just pieces including compliance and my responses.

Her mood: Exasperated and exhausted (aka horny).

Series of events:

-Texted 1 hr. after and got invalid phone #.
-Realized wrong area code and got a response after editing the number.
-Set up lunch date next day.
-Met as planned, but I shared my food because she didn’t order anything.
-Horrible transitions through 8 questions.
-Said I was handsome and confused why I asked her out.
-Walked around block with held hands/hand on her hip.
-Set up a dinner date for the weekend in her neighborhood.
-Took a drive in my car and speed on the highway blasting trance music.
-Walked to her car and started making out in the back seat.

Major pieces:

1) Texting
2) Lunch topics
3) Getting her in my car
4) Getting into her car

1) Texting

Had a strange texting situation, she gave the wrong #, but I figured out she had the wrong area code. Had high delays while texting, so I persisted.

Sat Aug 31 12:42AM

Me: Hey Cinthia! Nice meeting you tonight. Keep my number – Barry ☺

(1:08AM) Cinthia: Nice t meet u too!

Sat Aug 31 3:35PM

Me: Cinthia, hey! Let’s figure out a time to grab a bite to eat. What’s your schedule like next week?

(7:00PM) Cinthia: Hi! Sounds good. I work in (X city) maybe lunch Tue or Wed. R afternoons better for u?

(8:15PM) Me: Great Im in (X city), how about you? Wednesday for lunch works, say around 12?

Mon, Sep 2, 8:02PM

Me: Hey Cinthia! Hope your weekend was good =) Just finished bbqing all day. How’s your week looking?

(9:35PM) Cinthia: Hi Barry! Sounds like u had a great weekend ☺ Wednesday 12 is good I work on (X street) by the airport.

(10:03PM) Me: Thanks! Why don’t we go to (X sandwich spot) on (X street)? It’s a couple streets away from the lunch hotspot near the airport. Cool?

Tue, Sep 3 9:48PM

Cinthia: Hello Barry! See u tomorrow at 12 for lunch. Have a good nite☺

Wed, Sep 4 10:10AM

Me: Cinthia, morning! Awesome see you then: ☺


2) Lunch

The date lasted from 12-140pm. The girl looked different than in the lounge, ugly face and older around mid-30s, but a slender/athletic body. She dressed in business-professional clothing and carried her messenger bag into the sandwich shop. Standing in line, she decided against buying a sandwich, so I split mine in half.


Here’s a partial list of Chase’s 8 Q’s plus a few of my own:

1) What do you do? Is that what you want to do forever?

She’s established in her career as a CFP financial advisor with many certifications. She does not see herself doing anything else.

I responded with a short story about my internship, last semester in college, and plans for getting certifications. Tried matching her drive so I could relate to her argument that education/hard work does not end in college.

2) Have you traveled much?

Said she’s from Peru and started talking about large family ties, childhood, ect.

I come from a conservative, small family, anglo heritage so I could not relate to her on family. I talked about traveling with my family in Europe once and my desire for exploring the world.

3) What do you do in your free time?

Stressed the point how busy she was and the amount of hours desired for work. She said she goes dancing at lounges during times of stress.

I could tell at this point she was horny.

4) Do you ever go on crazy adventures?

She uttered an exasperated “pshhhh” sound and told about driving in fast cars with the windows down.

Almost 40min past so I decided to take her exasperated mood as a sign to move things forward.


5) What do you think of me so far?

Emitted another exasperated “pshhhh” and told me her confusion why I asked her out. Said I was young, handsome, and could get any college girl I wanted.

I used Chase’s explanation of desiring a more “worldy” girl and that college girls had nothing interesting to talk about. Sure, they are at their peaks physically, but all college girls talk about is T.V. and exams.

6) By the way, how old are you?

She said much older than me and wanted us to take a walk around the neighborhood. Could tell she was sensitive about the subject because she wanted to start moving.

3) My car

After walking her around the block, I asked her for the weekend schedule. She suggested we go to dinner in her town at a recommended restaurant. She offered not resistance getting into the car nor asked where we were going or how long we would take. After a 10 min spin on the highway, I pulled up to her car in a bank parking lot .

4) Her car

After walking her to the car, I stood in front of her, walked closer and held our bodies together until she planted a kiss on my lips. I asked for a tour of her car and opened up the back seat (new Acura TL-S WOW!). She went into the back seat w/o any complaints and took a move on me instantly. After about 10 min. or so of making out, I decided to go back to school


10 min later, I get a text:

Thanks for lunch and good company. Saturdays dinner is on me. Till then..Muah (lips emojicon)



MY MISTAKE:

After hearing multiple times I was out of her league, I canceled Saturday’s dinner and never set up another date. I was a virgin at the time and suffered from the high-standards problem Chase talked about.


Takeaway:

-Recognized exasperated behavior as desiring intimacy

 

[BarryS1]

Missed Writing Opportunities

Decided to skip my interactions from October to December because they would not provide value to the boards. I'll just say staying out of the provider category represents the #1 thing to remember with older women around 30. I made a huge mistake by telling two older women dates my priorities, aspirations, and job prospects for the future. Here's the common things I received:

Good:
-Mature for your age
-Lot of opportunity
-Cute, handsome, ect

Bad:
-I am too young
-Looking for the things that come with age
-Great that I have my life together, but want a guy who's been doing that over time

I really did not believe avoiding the provider zone was a good thing until dating older women!

Present Day

Ended another casual relationship last weekend through text because I was tired of her objections about seeing me once/week. I learned all I could from her, so it's time to move on! I did maybe one to 2 day game approaches per week since the beginning of the year w/ only 1 phone #... I am not having the success like I used to at large department stores because most older women in suburban areas are shopping for ppl other than themselves (boyfriends they live with, husbands, family, ect.) AKA not single!

My old plan for suburban game: (CUTTING THIS OUT)
-Department stores
-Grocery stores
-Jogging trails
-Lounges

My new plan for suburban game:
-Malls
-Professional workshops
-Meetup's professional social events
-Professional networking events/presentations
-Kickboxing class

 

[BarryS1]

Really trying to get into the sexual frame of mind. I have an experienced understanding of banter, deep-diving, push-pull, and chase frames, but am still failing to create stronger sexual attraction.

I decided to put together a few sexual frames together before going out to day game. Since I live in a heavy suburban area, most of the girls I run into live with their boyfriend or are married. Here's one:

Standard: "I look young? Don't be ashamed to be attracted to someone younger, that's just nature."

I'll think of a few in the morning, but need something to use during the approach.

 

[BarryS1]

2/22

After hitting a sticking point in my last FU report, I made new goals:

-Getting girls to move during nightgame.
-Approach groups of girls.

Drove 2.5 hrs with my friend to a Mardi Gras music festival at an indoor fairgrounds. My wingman is a strange combination a BAFC with women, but with multiple huge circles of friends. I could not rely on him for backing me up, but wanted the company for the music festival.

The event was for 21+, but I did not see anyone near my age except for a few of the strippers.

Girl #1

12:00am

My friend and I were walking to a stage when I noticed a group of 7 girls (Hispanic and black, late 20s, HB 7-8s) standing around a support beam. All of them were texting on their phones or looking around the building with bored expressions. A split second after noticing, a group of large guys (black, 40s, ripped) approached them, so I wanted to circle back around. I told my friend to follow me as I walked around the support beam, noticed the girl at the last minute, and approached.

The girl was black, around 5’3’’ and dressed conservatively compared to most Mardi Gras apparel I saw. She had a smooth vibe to her and really played along with the conversation. If my

Me: Oh, hellooo.

Girl: Hiii (lazy, smooth expression)

Me: How’s your night going?

Girl: Gooood. How’s yours?

Me: It’s been cool so far, just saw the first performance. I noticed your bright beads and had to say hello.

Girl: Oh, well thank you.

Me: My name is Barry by the way. (Extends hand)

Girl: Elisha. Hey, which group did you see?

Me: Group X. They were a lot of fun and threw champagne all over. Say, do you want to go grab a drink? It’s getting a little crowded around here.

Girl: Yeah let’s go.

(Nudges her nearest friend and shouts to the others talking to the older guys. I walk and talk with the same girl, while another girl approached my chump friend lol. ).

Me: Did you travel for the event?

Girl: No, not really, I live in city X. Where are you from?

Me: I live soooooo far away in city X. (I said a funny version of my city’s name too).

Girl: Huh, what was that city?

Me: I meant to say city X. (Pinching her arm)

Girl: Ohhhhhhhh, ok! Haha

(We arrive at the bar and I order water, while she gets her own. My friend taps me on the shoulder and says we gotta leave to the outside of the building for an afterparty. I should have ditched him b/c the performers and the bus did not show up LOL).


Girl #2

1:00 a.m.

I decided to ditch my friend at the event and told him to text me when the afterparty bus would arrive (never did, he was waiting like 1.5 hrs). I bounce from stage to stage, looking for more girls to approach. This was my first 21+ concert and I’ve never seen more couples in my life. Took an hour of walking around to find a group of girls (black, late 20s, HB-7-8s) in the back of the audience area dancing. The audience was defenning, so I kept the talking simple..

The moment after spotted the girl I wanted (black, late 20s, HB-7, tonned, 5’2’’ish), I hip check her and opened.

Me: Hi, how’s your night going?

Girl: (surprised expression) Good.

Me: Your orange shirt glows! I love it! I’m Barry!

Girl: (Smiles to me) Thanks I’m Tina!

Me: Travel far?

Girl: No, I’m from city X. Hbu?

Me: City X. How do girls from your city dance?

Girl: What do you mean?

(I open my hand for her to take, spin her around, and she starts grinding. Her friends immediately notice and say “Yeah girl, get it!! She stops after about 15 sec.).

Girl: Now give me one of your necklaces! (starts to take one of my mardi gras necklaces).

Me: Hold up! Why?! (Grabbing her hands softly).

Girl: I danced with you, now you gotta give me a necklace.

Me: Wait, why don’t you have any necklaces? Your friend has like 15!

Girl: Cuz that’s b/c she’s been dancing with everybody! (Laughs and palms my chest).

Her friend: Go grab his number!

Me: Do you wanna see me again?

Girl: Sure, but we are going home now.

(Puts the digits, name in my phone and she leaves with her friends).



She lives 1.5 hours away, but I still would go to her city. I sent an ice-breaker text that evening and a follow-up the next day.

Me: (1:38 A.M.) Tina, nice meeting you! Save my number – Barry =)

Me: (7:13 P.M.) Tina, hey! How was your weekend? Just catching up on sleep for me, had a long ride home yesterday.

Girl: This is not Tina.

Even though I got the wrong #, I practiced approaching groups and moving girls during nightgame. I like night game a lot better than the day time, I'm gonna try it for awhile.

 

[BarryS1]

3/3

Over the last few months, I have encountered older women around 35-45ish that laugh after my cold approach. Older women from that age group do not take me seriously and stand their ground laughing the entire time. I find myself standing around like a fool and attracting attention from the store until leaving. I have gotten 2 phone numbers out of 74 cold approaches from that age group. What am I doing wrong?

I do approach girls my age, but I find the most fit and attractive to be MUCH older than me.

Went to Walmart at 6:30pm on a Monday and approached a tall and professional older woman. She was at least 6’3’’ with heels on which accentuated her tonned gluteus maximus

I just came back from the office dressed in a slim-fitting professional shirt, flat pants, and new dress shoes. Before entering the store, I put a tungsten ring on each hand for flair. I have a closed-trimmed beard to look older (I’m 22).

I first saw her walking past through a main aisle pushing a cart and saw no engagement ring on the hand. A couple minutes later, she appears in the personal hygiene aisle, so I go in and park myself about 10 ft. away. I try eye contact flirting, but she’s starring far away at toothpaste on the shelf with her arms crossed. I open indirect-direct despite the aisle being filled with 4 other people!

Me: Oh, hello.

Girl: (Looks over with tired expression)

Me: Do you think this is the right floss to use with Listerine Whitening Wash?

Girl: You know, I like a different floss. The Crest thin strips, really gets between the gums better than the cloth ones.

Me: My doctor said I have good gums, so I’m focusing on white teeth.

Girl: (Starts going on another rant about teeth).

Me: (I make a crooked smile, tilt my head down, and create a RU serious? expression).

Girl: (She slowly stops talking and looks less serious)

Me: Actually, I’m getting this floss, but I thought you were attractive and wanted to say hello.

Girl: (Laughs loudly, turns her head away, and covers her mouth). Wow, that’s really sweet!

Me: My name is Barry by the way.

Girl: (Takes my hand and still grinning widely). Nice to meet you Barry.

Me: So, what’s your name?

Girl: Denise.

Me: Looks like you haven’t picked anything out yet. Your cart is empty.

Girl: Yeah, I just started. (Still smiling, but crosses her arms again and looks at the products at the shelf).

Me: Same here, just trying to get the right oral care for a stunning smile.

Girl: Oh, okay. (Completely aloof, then changes mood). Sorry, I just had a long day today.

Me: You work in a fancy office? (She had formal apparel on).

Girl: Yeah, just in city X.

Me: Must be fancy, that formal apparel looks really good on you. The green really catches the eye.

Girl: (Looks me dead in the eye for the first time) Oh, thank you.

Me: I do not want to hold you up too much longer. What’s your schedule like this week? We should grab something to eat.

Girl: (Starts laughing again). Oh, no thanks I can’t.

(There were people staring at us in the aisle, so I began closing).

Me: Your schedule must be busy then?

Girl: (Started looking uneasy and maintained eye contact with the shelf).

Me: Okay, then. Have a nice day!

I noticed older women from this group follow the same pattern: laughing-serious-laughing-uncomfortable. They seem to like the compliments, but get uneasy when I try to close.

 

[BarryS1]

Finally got down a template for the "you are too young" statement.

1) Ask how old she is first

2) Make banter about her age

Ex:
-That means you’re collecting social security right?
-You probably have 10 cats and knit all the time.
-You buying stuff for your bingo friends right?

3) Answer response to her age question
-Have her guess and say 1 more.

4)If she is still persistent - Debunk young girls (my spin on it)

-I find younger girls do not appreciate 1-on-1 conversations that much.
-IDK, maybe they talk so much on social media.
-Sure they are physically attractive, but not that personal


Tried this a couple weeks ago with an older girl that was dating someone and she agreed with me.

 

[BarryS1]

I've been experimenting with a new situation that's very risky - approaching girls with their kids.

I see a lot of older women in my neighborhood and just because they are with their kids doesn't mean I should pass them up. I have to expand the dating pool in my neighborhood or else I'll get bored.

Let me clarify what type of approaches I'll do:

-girls standing side-by-side with their kids being 10+ y.o.
-girls in the same area as their kids.

I do not want to freak a girl out pushing a stroller or walking with a small child. The last thing I want the girl to do is get defensive instead of intrigued by me.

 

[BarryS1]

Just had an amazing revelation:

An older girl has not asked about my occupation during cold-approach in 4 months!!!


I must have become a better conversationalist because the girls are not nervous to ask info about me. The girls just flow with the conversation instead of scrambling for stuff to ask me!

 

[BarryS1]

FR: Lost my cool

I am ashamed to say I lost my temper and took it out on a girl yesterday during daygame. I was at a department store at 12pm and was upset b/c I didn't sleep well that night. On top of that, I was frustrated there were only flabby, older girls in the store. My patience has been waning with the lack of younger girls in my area!

I approached an older girl with a direct opener, but she was in a bad mood. Usually, I say "never mind" and walk away, but I snapped back at her.

Girl: Oh, um....Thank you? (Said sarcastically)

Me: Wow, you have a unfriendly vibe to you.

Girl: What?! Do I need to call security?

I just walked around her and left the store feeling hopeless. The worst I've felt after approaching someone in December, when I approached a girl when her BF was in the store and she got mad.

It proved my outcome independence though.

After an hour, my mood went back to normal and I plan on approach again today

 

[BarryS1]

FR: More Blowouts

Idk what's been happening lately, but the last two weeks have been dreadful approaching girls. I got another scary blowout on a smokin' hot older blonde girl in a tight black dress around 2pm at the mall. She was dressed provacatively showing her large DD tits. I saw her walk through the store in a rush, but I followed her anyway. I pre-opened by touching her elbow, but she freaked the fuck out and yelled/jumped. I tried walking around the mall more, but the saddness kept creepin' back.

I am tired of older women blowing me out. I don't enjoy approaching them anymore!

 

[BarryS1]

RANT - ANOTHER BURNOUT

There's a couple of things I need to get off my chest right now: 1) I've stopped looking for romance and 2) I cannot concentrate on work b/c I want sex so bad.

1)

I don't know if this is an evolution or I turned down the wrong road, but I've stopped looking for romance. I do not care in the least about getting into a relationship. I just want a wet @#(@-hole to keep me occupied so I can concentrate on my other goals. I am more bitter towards women than when I started a year ago. They are a bunch of @#$@!es who just want to use me and throw me away after getting resources. After reading this material, it's impossible to think that someone can keep them satisfied for an extended period b4 blowing up in your face. I have a completely new approaching plan laid out, but I don't have enough patience.

2)

It has been 9 weeks since I last had sex, the longest dryspell since starting the program on August 10th 2013. I've been approaching more women with more tactics than ever before but can't get a lay. I am addicted to fapping again and cannot stay productive for any long piece of time. I salivate when going in public, get boners when fat girls walk by, and pull the trigger to fast during approaches. It is affected my game, I am p@#*y- thirsty and my results are going down.

 

[BarryS1]

FR: Beach

After blowing out terribly at a beach in SoCal, I decided to try indirect-direct at a local beach in NorCal. I did something high-risk, approach a blonde MILF in front of her toddler and got a phone # for a date.

Me: Hi (Pregnant Pause) Did you see any runners go by here.

Girl: Oh, idk. I saw them going by earlier. (She seemed liked the airhead type)

Me: Me too. Idk what they are doing now b/c they used to run along the coast. Probably popping out of the ocean, huh?

Girl: You know, I don't know the area that well. How about you? Where are you from?

(And we were off to the races)

I've been re-doing my deep-diving techniques and got to the nitty-gritty about her job. I asked her, so what do you like better about being a nurse - pocking needles in people or laboratory stuff? She took a full minute to explain what she liked better and got us off the small talk fast!

She didn't respond to my ice-breaker or date text, but I'm happy I pulled this off.

 

[BarryS1]

FR: Warming up

I haven't been out of my house for the past 1.5 weeks (except twice) b/c of work. I finally finished my job so I'm unemployed with money to blow. I decided to sarge all day!

Girl 1: Hairdresser

I decided starting from scratch and relearning the GC method tactics. I've been re-vamping my deep-diving skills by the methods used the in the Journeyman's guide. The hairdresser was a latina, HB-7 (bigass, old face) in her mid 30s. I deep-dived her on:

What do you like better, getting to talk to people all day or it hairdressing an art form?

She spilled the beans about cutting hair since the age of 17 and wanted to get into it b/c of an art form. I didn't have enough energy to banter or do anything else, but her speel was about 2 min or so - not bad. I am slowly accomplishing my goal of getting past the small talk.


Girl 2: Girl running on sidewalk

I haven't opened direct in 1.5 weeks, so I was really uncomfortable doing this. I opened 4-5 different ways at the same time: Hey pink shirt, excuse me, hey, hold on, sorry. Then she turned around, big ass HB-7, early 30s, blonde.

She said she was pregnant and married, but very happy to here my compliment.

FIRST TIME HITTING ON A PREGNANT CHICK LOLOL

 

[BarryS1]

FR: Got my mojo back

Thursday I was in a bad place, Friday I was the best I’ve ever been.

I’m trying out 3 new things:

-entertainer vibe
-baiting
-screening/qualifying

First time a girl asked me out in a 2.5 years - I hardly had to do any work with this.

I went to a park full of roses and number/kiss closed a Russian milf walking with her toddler son. It was about 1pm in the afternoon and I was walking up behind them around 30ft. She turned and looked at me twice before the toddler went to the drinking fountain. Typical protective mothering behavior, I thought, better go situational on this one. She was around 5’6’’, late 20s, black hair, DD tits, and her ass jutted out of her sweatpants (I even saw her underwear line) . She was clothed simply - unusual for women in this neighborhood who go all out and wear jewels and fashionable clothing just to go grocery shopping.

Me: How’s the water taste?

Girl: OH!…um, the water? (noticeable accent)

Me: Yeah, you never know how city water tastes.

Girl: I don’t know. My son is trying to reach the fountain.

Me: (I step up to the fountain and taste the water - smacking my lips dramatically) Definitely not as smooth as San Francisco and has the rough mineral quality of X city.

Girl: Really?! You don’t like it.

Me: Not particularly. (Trying to sound fancy and go with the entertainer vibe)

Girl: Are you from around here?

Me: Yes (Baiting her to ask for more info aka only answering what she asks for)

Girl: What street?

Me: Oh, more towards X on the side of X city. And you? Where to you hail from?

Girl: Oh, is that far? Hail? I don’t understand.

Me: Where do you come from?

Girl: X (A city in Russia)

And that’s how she hooked. Within 5 minutes of talking to her, I knew I could of pulled for an insta-lay if nor for her toddler son. The easiest convo to control I’ve had in AT LEAST 3 months. Since there was a language barrier and she was in front of her kid, I didn’t use any sexual frames. Here’s the series of events:

-I made them sit down with me
-She tried screening me on my age and job, but I made her guess all of them. I found out she moved her 1 mo ago, was a lawyer in Russia, and got divorced a couple years ago - father isn’t in country.
-She broke the conversational ice by saying she likes me
-She asked me out in mid conversation to coffee next week - I said yes
-I moved them to follow me to my car and figured out logistics - she lives in an apartment with her friend that doesn’t mind guests (wicked smile).
-At my car, we decide to meet later that day b/c she will be back w/o her son.

I give her a kiss, but she stops before the second one saying, “Not in front of my son, while laughing.”

We parted ways, but she bailed on my later that day. I didn’t care b/c I was sarging at a local university - building my social circle. She called me the next day apologizing and we arranged a date on Monday.

 

[BarryS1]

FR: New Neighborhood

Girl #1: MILF in public library

I went to a public library around 4pm yesterday and saw a MILF in the children's section. She was with her toddler, but she was looking at a shelf 15ft. away from her. I saw she didn't have a ring and husband around so I approached.

Me: Hey, was this book from a Disney movie?

Girl: Yeeeahh. It came out a long time ago. (Started talking about the last time she saw it)

Me: So not the other way around? Book into movie?

Girl: No. (Starts explaining what she remembered about the movie)

Me: Must of been an exciting movie, I don't remember much from it.

Girl: Me neither, movies don't stick in my head long. Just one ear and out the other (chuckles). I don't really watch those types of movies.

Me: So what movies do you like?

Girl: I don't watch movies. I like TV

Me: Like what? Gossip girl?

Girl: No, sons of anarchy.

Me: Oh, then we should be in the gothic section then.

Girl: Yeah (chuckles) Well have a good afternoon!

Oerview: Abrupt walk-away. I don't know what happened there.


Girl #2: HB-10 Blonde Jogger

I saw a jogger walk past me that was absolutely stunning. Model features, but slightly slender w/ bright jogging clothing. I pre-opened her (that shocked her), then did my direct line. She introduced herself as well then said she needs to continue her jog.


Overview: I am completely numb from rejection.

 

[BarryS1]

FR: My New Direct Style

I got advice from PinotNoir about trying NJ's direct opener style. I did on one girl walking at the park yesterday and it suited my style better. I am getting lazier at approaches and feel silly for going over-the-top like I used to. I transformed from sweet--->charming--->dominant. I approached the girl from behind:

Me: Wait! (Pre-open)

Girl: (Turns around)

Me: Wow! (pregnant pause) You're gorgeous.

Girl: Oh....uhhhh. (Smiling) I'm married (holding up her ring).

I did some stupid deep-diving, but the girl was acting nervous probably because she was waiting for someone to arrive. Sure enough, when I drove past the trail, she was sitting with a group in a BBQ.