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Becoming consistent? Improving meet to lay ratio

Marcellus

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hey Gents,

I'm writing up an LR/Oral report at the moment but needed a break to get people's thoughts on something I've had on my mind for a while.
I want to know how to get my game to become more consistent(I'm only doing night-game right now so this is what I'll be talking about). I'm pretty happy with my game at the moment. But that's not good enough.
Alek mentioned in some posts on these boards that he has I think it was a 1 to 5 Meet to Lay ratio. Incredible numbers. I don't think I can reach that but I want to get consistent to a point where I'm doing something like a 1 to 10-15 meet-to-lay ratio.
I've searched everywhere on the internet for anything that I can find on becoming more consistent in seduction. Not many results. Tough subject to get more information on haha.


Current situation: I go out 2-3 days a week. Have no problem approaching girls or guys.
Get lots of inconsistent hooks and inconsistent nights. Could have one night where I talk to only 5 girls and I take her home.
Have lots of nights where I strike out with 20 girls. Have nights where I have great conversations with 10+ girls but go home alone.
Get around 12 lays a year/1 a month.

I listened to a podcast Varoon had with @Bacchus. He mentioned there were 4 stages in the seduction
1- Approach to hook
2- Hook to Isolation
3- Isolation to pull
4- Pull to lay

The plan I thought of was to just focus on these 4 steps. So I would start at number one and just focus on that point for several months/outings.
Then when I feel that I'm really consistent in that stage of the game I would move and start focusing on the next step.
So for example I'm going to start working on getting girls to consistently hook: Alek has a 9-part article series on getting girls to hook. Chase also has two videos on GCtv about getting girls to hook. I would just read and watch these things several times until I had them down pat. Bacchus also has a curiosity gambit that he uses as an opener, I would start practicing these and then implement them when I go out.

I'm going to spend the next 6 months consistently going out so this is why I wanted to see if anyone had ways to help speed up my learning curve. Would hate to spend several months going about things the wrong way.

My current situation: I love the game. With all my major commitments out of the way, I'll be going out 3-5 days a week for the upcoming Spring/Summer.
I also do the work. No matter what someone says, I'll do it/try it.
Routines/Gambits, I have no problem with using these. My game is 100% freestyle right now but I'm happy/willing to change if something else works better.
Type of game. I'm happy to do anything in the name of science and developing new ideas/ways to get better and more consistent. Sniper game/Direct/Indirect/Social Proof/Dance floor game/Social circle/ All of it, I have no limitations and I'm happy to try whatever anyone suggests.

The only other thing I can really think of was to buy @Gunwitch SMMA course.

But yea, I will read any article/watch any video several times, and do whatever is suggested. I am very serious about becoming more consistent.

Marcellus
 

Jan

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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In my view, you shouldn't focus too much on these metrics. First of all, you put unnecessary pressure on yourself. You ask your subconsious mind to satisfy some imaginary ratio, while your mind should be here and now, focusing on the girl, on your feelings, environment, etc. This additional task you give yourself is sabotaging you.

Secondly, you have to understand that this number can be very subjective. For example, do you think you would get the same results if in one day you focus on type of girls which you have proven to yourself you can easily seduce, and other day when you focus on uber-hotties. Or you don't need to focus even, it can be that on a particular day you get crowd from set 1 and on another day crowd from set 2.

Also, on my journey I have periods when I focus more on skills development/testing of theories and other periods when I focus on getting results with the skills I have already have. In the first type of circumstances, my results plummet but I don't care as long as I see improvement in certain skill.

I believe what can also help you is better screening. You should analyse your successful lays and try to decipher what it was that gave you success. Maybe you do well with young chicks, or maybe you do well with MILFS. If you want more lays, focus on whatever you are good at. Approach only teens or approach only MILFS. It should be pretty obvious why this would improve your meet-to-lay ratio, and consistency for that matter.

On the other hand, if you come to conclusion that you do very well with MILFS but you are not interested to meet them anymore, and instead you would like to get more teens, YOU SHOULD NOT expect that your meet-to-lay ratio will remain the same/consistent. It will plummet because you dive into a new game. You need time to learn the rules of the new game, and get experience.

Short answer: if you want more consistency, identify what you do well, screen for it and do more approaches in your niche.
 
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