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Roundy

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Hey y’all,

Our understanding of the lover/provider dynamic is that the provider is much more heavily defined by his career and income. Also indicators of career success (especially in certain fields eg law, finance, IT) make him look more provider than lover.

However, lovers need to work as well. I wonder what guys on here believe are solid career choices that complement the seducer lifestyle. 9-5 jobs are very draining and leave little time for nights out etc. I’m also not talking about casual jobs like being a bouncer or tour guide or skydiving instructor (though these certainly pay dividends). What careers do you think fit the lover life?
 

ulrich

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Any kind of job related to sales lets you practice your social skills and develop the right mentality.
Also sales jobs are usually easy... talking from experience here.

I guess the people having real jobs in the music industry should have an edge for passion.

Acting is also a cool career but it isreally hard to stand out.

Pilots should get laid a lot too.

Life coaching (or other kinds of serious coaching) is not 9-5 and you get to lead people.

I guess erotic and fashion photographers should earn good money, meet tons of people and get into cool parties. Most of them are gay, tough (I believe)

Fitness coach is a good career... not sure if it pays well.
 
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YS.

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Any answer other than a Nightlife Host / Promoter is plain out trolling imo. :D

Some other professions that I personally know of people who crush it:
  • Dancing instructor
  • Yoga instructor
  • Musician
  • Internet Celebrity / Youtuber / Influencer
  • Comedian

Basically anything with nightlife/party access or easy access & status over a lot of women with low male competition.
 

Chrance

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Most of the guys I know, including myself, work a 9-5 job. My job is easy and flexible so it’s not really draining.

before corona hit I’d go out Thursday, Friday and Saturday night then day game Sunday. This is a pretty solid schedule. It’s even possible to do day game after work Monday-Wednesday which is what I’ve lately been doing.

so I’m curious how alternate lifestyles are able to give you more time and opportunities to meet chicks. A simple 9-5 job already seems to cover everything: do daygame after work, do nightgame thurs-sat or whenever night life is good. Take a nap before sarging to preserve your sleep.

to avoid the provider issue I just don’t talk about work.

I’m also curious how much night life workers actually get laid from their job. It seems that they are supposed to be working, can’t really go anywhere else, and their whole weekend is locked out. Maybe someone who works in this area can explain the pros/cons; all I see are cons frankly
 

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I would like to preface my response with a disclaimer.

Beyond basic fundamentals (looks maxxing - working out, getting a good haircut, clothes that match, etc.) and practicing game in field, then troubleshooting, analysing, trying again, etc. going any further: seeking a career to get laid, if it means you will repress your passions in astrophysics or quantum physics or pure maths or computer science and informatics, etc. is a mistake.

Not only is it overcompensation, it will stop you from becoming your best self - you can only tune into who you are if you go for what you love, even if that isn't "chick-friendly".

Personally I went into tour guiding because I was starting a Master's degree at the time and needed a job which would give me a lot of flexibility. Additionally it was good money and I was able to wax lyrical about one of my deepest intellectual passions - history (while also talking in front of a crowd, almost like acting, which is another métier I adore). The pussy wasn't on my mind when I applied for the job. It came as a bonus.

Another problem with context-dependent sex is that it can become a crutch, and then when you lose that status (rock star, tour guide, whatever) you're back to square one if you haven't practiced going out and securing your own toosh.

Anyway, to those who are curious, you can learn which are the two best tour guide jobs to get laid, and how to get laid in one of them, in my first GC article here: https://www.girlschase.com/content/tourism-game-2-best-tour-guide-jobs-hooking

Here’s another: https://www.girlschase.com/content/tourism-game-how-get-laid-free-tour-guide

I'll be writing a few more on the topic in the coming weeks.
 
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Roundy

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Most of the guys I know, including myself, work a 9-5 job. My job is easy and flexible so it’s not really draining.

before corona hit I’d go out Thursday, Friday and Saturday night then day game Sunday. This is a pretty solid schedule. It’s even possible to do day game after work Monday-Wednesday which is what I’ve lately been doing.

so I’m curious how alternate lifestyles are able to give you more time and opportunities to meet chicks. A simple 9-5 job already seems to cover everything: do daygame after work, do nightgame thurs-sat or whenever night life is good. Take a nap before sarging to preserve your sleep.

to avoid the provider issue I just don’t talk about work.

I’m also curious how much night life workers actually get laid from their job. It seems that they are supposed to be working, can’t really go anywhere else, and their whole weekend is locked out. Maybe someone who works in this area can explain the pros/cons; all I see are cons frankly

I essentially agree with everything here. I’ve heard guys say they have no time/motivation from 9-5 work but I also know guys (in the military for example) who do more punishing hours and still get in the game regularly.

As far as nightlife work, I’m inclined to agree in most cases. You think the people going into those jobs are studs with the gift of the gab but usually they’re unattractive try hards at least in my country.

I don’t doubt you can get a lot of lays as a tour guide (or as a surf life saver for that matter) and it’s probably a lot of fun as a casual job. I was more wondering what careers can have symbiosis with being a lover archetype.
 

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Hey y’all,

Our understanding of the lover/provider dynamic is that the provider is much more heavily defined by his career and income. Also indicators of career success (especially in certain fields eg law, finance, IT) make him look more provider than lover.

However, lovers need to work as well. I wonder what guys on here believe are solid career choices that complement the seducer lifestyle. 9-5 jobs are very draining and leave little time for nights out etc. I’m also not talking about casual jobs like being a bouncer or tour guide or skydiving instructor (though these certainly pay dividends). What careers do you think fit the lover life?


There has been a total corruption on lover vs provider distinction and it has 0 TO DO WITH CAREER CHOICE , and it seems that all of you are missing the point..... Career does not = providers

- the other issue is the 9-5 jobs (what you are trying to say is that 8 hours jobs are draining and affect pick up, that may apply somewhat to "day game" and i even doubt that when it comes to going about your day day game or train/buses in certain cities, and downtown area lunch places in biz districts.....

- Lover/seducer is intangible and not a career you do but something you are with actions... Now the career that will help most with seduction is probably sells (cause sells is influence)....

“Lover VS Provider” Theory And The M/W Complex By Teevester aka Tva_oslo:
Women are seeking two types of mates – call it different providers. Consider sex being a trade, what you are trading for the sex defines what kind of provider you are. The men women are seeking who are confident, independent, attractive having a lot of women chasing them are called “sex providers” – this is the man women finds sexually attractive – the man who women would like to have sex just for the sake of having sex. These men are often behaving sexually toward women, making themselves being perceived as sexual beings – sex providers. This type of men is usually called “alpha males” or “lovers” in community lingo. Important to point out, these men are trading sex for sex. However, these are a minority – whereas the majority of men are providers of anything else of women’s needs such as social value, material goods, emotional support and so on. These men will trade something else than sex in for having sex with a woman. As a matter of fact this type of providers tend to get sex from being in relationships with women.
Now you might ask why is that a problem? Well whenever a woman gets “too attracted to you” in ways that are not purely sexual (-i.e. not perceiving you as lover/sex provider), women will tend to act in very pure and a-sexual way toward those men – she will start expressing purity. This is because she feels more attractive when ever she acts non-sexual toward men and feels unattractive when she is behaving too sexually or promiscuous. Women in fact believe we men do not like women who are sexually open – as they are very familiar with the complex many men have which is called “the Madonna/whore” complex. There are many versions of this complex but the most common one is described as men perceiving women as either plain whores, who are just sex tools without, who are useless when it comes to relationships, or “madonnas”, which men perceives as pure and good. These “madonnas” being known as the pure and correct women, are often perceived by men as better fitted for relationships. Women aware of the following will then act in way that communicates that she is a Madonna – in order words she will behave very a-sexually toward male who they perceive as potential relationship candidates. This is because they believe, and they are right in most of the case that men usually do prefer women that are “pure and correct” because men fantasize about women that are exclusive to them.
The sad fact is that the idea of the pure Madonna remains just a plain fantasy. The cold fact is that no women are pure madonnas, neither are they whores for that instance – any women can be sweet and correct, but they are also “whores” as every women have a sexual biological drive – this is a universal truth about healthy women. Still many men believe some madonnas do exist – we have all heard “she is not like the rest”. Now the problem occurs whenever a man is too attractive to a woman in a way that is not just purely sexual, she starts perceiving that man as a boyfriend potential – nothing bad with that, but she will perceive him as a provider – meaning that the relationship would not be based on the sexual aspect. Therefore she is better off expressing her “Madonna side” by showing purity – acting a-sexual in order to win her man over, as that what believes works. This is why women will often make men wait for sex – “I am not that kind of girl” –, which is something we don’t want to happen. We don’t want women to act pure toward us, as we want sexual openness – women fucking us quickly and good. Many times we just want to simply fuck a girl, not enter a relationship – or if we do want to enter a relationship with that girl, we do not want to commit on a false premise – her being a pure Madonna. A quick word of advice is to never ever enter a relationship on her terms – as you don’t want to exchange sex for anything else than sex. Keep in mind that you can easily start relationships with women by being perceived as a sex provider – these relationships will be of better quality and last longer.


 
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Roundy

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There has been a total corruption on lover vs provider distinction and it has 0 TO DO WITH CAREER CHOICE , and it seems that all of you are missing the point..... Career does not = providers

- the other issue is the 9-5 jobs (what you are trying to say is that 8 hours jobs are draining and affect pick up, that may apply somewhat to "day game" and i even doubt that when it comes to going about your day day game or train/buses in certain cities, and downtown area lunch places in biz districts.....

- Lover/seducer is intangible and not a career you do but something you are with actions... Now the career that will help most with seduction is probably sells (cause sells is influence)....






Its good to know the 9-5 lifestyle doesn’t affect you as negatively as I imagined (as I myself am currently trying to get a job at a bank). Maybe my question was a little vague. I think for example if you get a career as a writer or painter or stuntman, that adds to your value as lover/sex appeal, while corporate jobs just add provider value. It’s not that you need a certain job to be a lover, because it’s an independent quality. But if you build motorcycles for a living, it says something. If you’re a ballet teacher or fashion designer than it says something as well (probably negative). You can have a badass job and still suck with women. And having great game and fundamentals definitely have a halo effect on your job choice. Still interesting why some jobs have a positive effect on lover value, while others certainly don’t.
 

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I guess any job where you can meet tonnes of young girls, but you could also just cold approach them to see if they like you or not anyway, so not sure if matters, really.
Plus there's tinder and stuff! Don't see the point in getting a job to meet girls
 
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Glow

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theres a tipping point in pickup where you start wondering why you spend so much time with women
you start to b much more focussed on your own aliveness
you hand pick the quality ones and avoid the majority

At this point of your life certain careers would become draining if theyre locked into a an outgoing social life

aka

Dont mix and pick careers for your seduction

careers is about what you as a man want to craft, maybe what you want to create in the world, your big projects etc.

dont cling that to women in a needy bond

also dont deselect eg a sales job if thats what you wanna do which could be a win for your seduction too.

but be frank with yourself about your true motivations, spend some time feeling these things out.

learn to have focus beyond women and balance things out.
 

HandsomeSexGod

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  • Dancing instructor
  • Yoga instructor
  • Musician
  • Internet Celebrity / Youtuber / Influencer
  • Comedian
Basically anything with nightlife/party access or easy access & status over a lot of women with low male competition.


YES!!! The Comedian option is gold!
 
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