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Bit of a barren spell, help appreciated

Maxkay

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What's up guys!
Anyway straight to it, earlier in the year I hit a great run of confidence and form, felt super good about myself and when I went out, things just seemed to happen with girls that didn't before, they started approaching me and it was a great little cycle of results and confidence.
However I was quite ill for a few weeks and lost my momentum and ever since then I just can't seem to get it back.
Last few weeks I've gone out to clubs and bars a fair bit and I have been approaching them but it just doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I can't really engage them past small talk.
After a few 'hey, how's your night going, do you go to uni here?' etc I run out of things to say and the interaction is over.
I know it's not what you say, it's how you say it but i feel like i'm getting stuck whereas before I went through a great phase of whatever I said was working. Maybe I was lucky or maybe it was the vibe I was giving off.

Basically I'm asking for some advice on how to get my momentum back and my confidence up again, it's not like i'm not trying atm, it's just nothing seems to be coming off right now.
Cheers and anyhelp would be really appreciated.

Max
 

Mr.Rob

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Dude we all get dry spells from time to time especially when your just starting to see results.

I had a dry spell that lasted just over 4 months this year and I was going out every week multiple times a week.

Dry spells aren't bad they harden you up and keep you sharp (granted you keep going out), as well as make you enjoy the success 100 times more when you do get the success.

Also motivation/success/consistency ebbs and flows. Just like the sun rises and sets so does everything in nature including you and your emotions.

If your feeling super unmotivated you can take a break and just meet 5-10 girls a week and then get back into it when you get more in the zone or see where you're going wrong. (Don't take more than a couple weeks off you don't want to rationalize and then end up losing your edge).

Good luck

-Rob
 

DANGER!

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Confidence comes from within. If you believe every time you go out, that you're going to get laid, or that you are improving your skills to get laid... then soon enough, you will find extraordinary events occurring in your seductions. But if you go out like a debbie downer vampire, good luck with seeing results. How you feel is how you make others feel around you. Remember, emotions are contagious. When you feel like a winner, you act like a winner. You walk like a winner. You talk like a winner. You dress like a winner. Others want to be involved in your infectious aura of positivity. Personally, I meditate every morning to start the day fresh. It is recommended that you do the same. Don't beat yourself up, it's just not attractive. Chill, relax, and have a good time. Every time.

And remember, women will test you. Always keep your cool. Always.
~DANGER!
 

Maxkay

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Mr.Rob said:
Dude we all get dry spells from time to time especially when your just starting to see results.

I had a dry spell that lasted just over 4 months this year and I was going out every week multiple times a week.

Dry spells aren't bad they harden you up and keep you sharp (granted you keep going out), as well as make you enjoy the success 100 times more when you do get the success.

Also motivation/success/consistency ebbs and flows. Just like the sun rises and sets so does everything in nature including you and your emotions.

If your feeling super unmotivated you can take a break and just meet 5-10 girls a week and then get back into it when you get more in the zone or see where you're going wrong. (Don't take more than a couple weeks off you don't want to rationalize and then end up losing your edge).

Good luck

-Rob
Cheers bud. I think the hardest part as you say is going through a dry spell following a period of success because you've tasted the good time. You reached a level you didn't think you could so you know it's possible but for whatever reason it's not coming off.

Have you got any sample openers, just to start engaging girls into conversations? Seems to be my biggest sticking point at the moment.
 

ray_zorse

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As to the opener go direct (I could not help but notice how amazingly cute you are) or tailored compliment (my eye was drawn to your black and white outfit... you look incredibly coordinated)... then go for a cold read based on what you see (you look like you are partying hard... it must be somebody's birthday!)... if she confirms it or starts to explain where your read is off... you're golden! Continue with further cold reads or questions phrased as statements (so you work during the day). Turn it sexual (oh really you work in fundraising? you are quite charming so that does not come as a surprise... I bet you could have your way with whomever you chose!)... etc... give that a shot. Remember you can get a process down for anything, including flirty sexual conversation... when you had success before you were just following your process without knowing consciously what you were doing... you can distill it out into something repeatable if you practice!!
cheers, Ray
 

Maxkay

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ray_zorse said:
As to the opener go direct (I could not help but notice how amazingly cute you are) or tailored compliment (my eye was drawn to your black and white outfit... you look incredibly coordinated)... then go for a cold read based on what you see (you look like you are partying hard... it must be somebody's birthday!)... if she confirms it or starts to explain where your read is off... you're golden! Continue with further cold reads or questions phrased as statements (so you work during the day). Turn it sexual (oh really you work in fundraising? you are quite charming so that does not come as a surprise... I bet you could have your way with whomever you chose!)... etc... give that a shot. Remember you can get a process down for anything, including flirty sexual conversation... when you had success before you were just following your process without knowing consciously what you were doing... you can distill it out into something repeatable if you practice!!
cheers, Ray
Cheers again :)
I feel like before what I did was working because I just approached with confidence and a bit of humour, sometimes I got rejected but often I was striking gold and for the first time I had girls APPROACHING ME, maybe it was lucky but it must have been in part down to the vibe I was giving off.
 

Chase

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Maxkay-

Two things I found most useful during ruts the first few years in my seduction learning curve:

  • 1. Pick whatever parts of the pickup yu're not doing well with and write down a few new things you're going to test out doing (or a few old ones you've realized you'd started forgetting to do - e.g., screen, tease, chase frame, flirt, etc.)

    2. Make sure you're going out regularly even when you don't want to, as that's the only way you get that momentum built back up again

Just keep hammering away at that wall intelligently and you'll break through.

Chase
 
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