Borderline Personality in Male Seducers

[Alpha13SC]

@Skills,



Oh okay. Well I can tell you... I've had a bunch of Asian playboy friends, thanks to living in California + spending a bunch of time in Asia. They can be a bit more feminine than other dudes. But there is still a difference between regular Asians / playboy Asians and gay Asians (this guy is in the latter camp if you ask me).



I've tried everything I can think of to outsource the emotional management of relationships, short of bringing in another dude, lol... the thing is, if you are the guy she is most into, there is only so much of the emotional labor you can outsource. She will do couples stuff with the beta dude, but you are still going to get drama from her if she views you as really "the main guy." And if the other guy is going to become her "main guy", then why would you marry her? Why not let her marry him, and you're just the side-dick? Then if (when) it all goes tits up you can easily leave. Not so with a marriage contract.

The other suspicion I have here is that this dude is BPD... it's pretty common to find skilled playboys who are BPD. The thing for them is always fear of abandonment. The guys I have known like this are really good at keeping girls around by hook or by crook, and always finding ways to rope them into them. BPD guys are across the board bisexual, IME, too. So "Okay, you date him, and have kids with him. But you marry me, okay?" is the kind of strategy you might expect to see from a BPD playboy who is trying to lock the girl in by giving her what she says she wants, that he doesn't want to do himself, while trying to minimize the risk of abandonment.

Bonus points that he gets to also lock in a guy he has attached to, because the guy is devoted to the girl (and any kids he has with her down the line) but the BPD guy still controls her emotionally and ultimately has the "Look dude, I know you love her, but don't forget, she is married to ME" leverage card to pull out if the other dude starts trying to push him out. So that way neither guy nor gal can easily leave or easily push the BPD playboy out of the throuple.

Chase

@Chase what can you say about BPD traits in guys?
I did some research on my own, but it seems like I can t still put my finger on it. Recognize some of them in myself, hence why I can usually give girls a lot of emotions and get them to do stuff on my own way due to impulsiveness but clearly have some drawbacks. Can be cured?

Also, this can be moved to a separate topic, in order to not derail.

 

[Conquistador]

what can you say about BPD traits in guys?
I did some research on my own, but it seems like I can t still put my finger on it.

So I've met multiple dudes like this. One of them was definitely bi (would try to flirt w me, also hits on girls a lot). The other one I know (extensively) thru an online work context so idk what his sexuality is.

There are some patterns. Gaslighting and twisting people's words is the first one that comes to mind. Another is attempting to leverage formal power structures in uncalibrated ways. Obsessions with causes (If you want I can PM you a link to a very interesting federal court case involving sovereign immunity, and also a link to the other dude's reign of terror on Wikipedia).

To my knowledge I've only interacted with one woman who had it, and her in passing. She didn't really act like that.

Recognize some of them in myself, hence why I can usually give girls a lot of emotions and get them to do stuff on my own way due to impulsiveness but clearly have some drawbacks. Can be cured?

I wouldn't worry about it, most likely you just have above average dark triad traits.

 

[Alpha13SC]

So I've met multiple dudes like this. One of them was definitely bi (would try to flirt w me, also hits on girls a lot). The other one I know (extensively) thru an online work context so idk what his sexuality is.

There are some patterns. Gaslighting and twisting people's words is the first one that comes to mind. Another is attempting to leverage formal power structures in uncalibrated ways. Obsessions with causes (If you want I can PM you a link to a very interesting federal court case involving sovereign immunity, and also a link to the other dude's reign of terror on Wikipedia).

To my knowledge I've only interacted with one woman who had it, and her in passing. She didn't really act like that.

I wouldn't worry about it, most likely you just have above average dark triad traits.

Sure, I would like to see the materials.

Don t have any inclinations to other sexuality, just females on my mind. Too much sometimes.

 

[Chase]

@Alpha13SC,

@Chase what can you say about BPD traits in guys?
I did some research on my own, but it seems like I can t still put my finger on it. Recognize some of them in myself, hence why I can usually give girls a lot of emotions and get them to do stuff on my own way due to impulsiveness but clearly have some drawbacks.

Well, I can't Internet diagnose you, not knowing your traits/etc.

But from the BPD playboys I have known:

• Extremely appearance-conscious, with this entire image they are very, very careful to project and maintain. Not always necessary "pristine image", but they have a certain identity they are dead set on embodying and are very, very concerned that everyone see them that way.
  
  
• Cannot tolerate jokes at their expense whatsoever. At best seethe, at worst go on the offensive at even gentle, good-natured jabs, of the kind most guys gleefully trade back and forth with their buddies.
  
  
• Very status conscious. VERY.
  
  
• Large sexual appetite, basically sex-addicted. Prone to other addictions too (drugs, gambling, sugar, etc.). The ones who get good at pickup get good because they NEED fresh pussy regularly.
  
  
• Very identified with their penises... they will talk about how big their dicks are, how great they are at using their dicks, about women worshipping their dicks, etc. When you're in their good graces they will typically also build you up by joking around about how you have a massive schlong as well, women love your schlong, etc.
  
  
• Constant manipulations they are running on everyone around them. If they are good, and you are not the sort who would do this to men yourself normally, you will question yourself... like, "It seems like he is using a technique on me. But this guy is my friend. There's no reason to run a technique on me. Is he using manipulation tech on me?" If you question the guy he will act hurt and say he would never do something like that and try to convince you that he is being totally forthright.
  
  
• Focused on always possessing the moral high ground (guys like this are where I learned it from). They must be morally unimpeachable. The truth is they are often doing dirty deeds, but then claim that they are spotless and anyone suspecting them of anything wrong is an affront to their strong moral fiber. They will NEVER admit to wrongdoing, ever, unless there is a way for them to spin it into something that makes them look even better ("All right, I did make a little white lie, but look how well it turned out! It blah blah blah blah...").
  
  
• Absolutely blameless. Nothing is ever their fault. Like @Surveyor notes, the ones I have known have been very focused on causality. I knew a BPD playboy who would speak constantly about causation and causality, and talk about how other people's actions caused all these things. I used to debate with him about the pointlessness of discussing causality in human affairs, because you can always point to a singular event and say, "There -- that is what caused all this," but someone else can point to something a few hours or days or weeks earlier and say, "No, see -- there's the TRUE cause," and someone else can point to another event that preceded that event, ad infinitum. Didn't matter; because they are always looking to shift the blame, they are always looking for "causes" to pin things on that indirectly ascribe the blame to others and not themselves.
  
  
• Generally have multiple girlfriends who are more or less convinced that they are the main girlfriend for the guy, even if he doesn't see them terribly often. Get their girls to pay for things for them, etc. Higher skill lower income BPD guys typically target financially well-off girls and live off them to a certain degree.
  
  
• Experts at gaining leverage on other people. They will unearth secrets or pull people into compromising situations then hang that over them when all their other manipulation tactics fail. The name of the game with BPD men is "leverage." If you're around a BPD guy and accidentally reveal some damning secret, don't let on it's a secret or that it's damning and just hope he doesn't notice and file it away for later use. Meanwhile you need to think like a BPD guy and be gaining leverage over him yourself, that way if he has a meltdown and starts threatening to destroy you you can trot out the leverage you have over him and dangle that and make him realize what he's really looking at is mutually-assured destruction.
  
  
• Excellent at using flattery -- really the best you will ever see. Can flatter you until you feel like the greatest person on earth, with this brilliant, perceptive BPD guy as the singular champion who realizes how incredible you are. At the same time, they will try to isolate you from others by making you suspicious of others' motives (while, again, presenting themselves as morally impeccable do-gooders who wouldn't hurt a fly and are 100% on your side).
  
  
• Always, always, always focused on winning every single confrontation they have. There is no reality where they will back down or accept defeat. They will make strategic retreats from bigger demands while still demanding smaller concessions. "Get a concession" is the name of the game with them. This makes them talented same-day / same-night PUAs, because they are capable of persisting until the girl just gets fed up and walks or until she breaks and goes along with the guy. They lose girls they could've gotten with more patience, but they also close a lot of girls most guys would've written off as "yellow lights" or even "red lights" or "too fickle", "too closed off", etc., just by plowing and plowing and plowing until the girl either leaves or complies.
  
  
• Will use emotions in ways that make you wonder if they even actually feel emotions, or if it all part of a con. e.g., sudden emotional breakdowns that they use to try to get something they want by appealing to sympathy. Sudden bursts of anger also used to try to get what they want by intimidation. If it doesn't work their emotions may change suddenly to something completely different, but they are still trying to get the same thing they were after -- almost like the emotion was simply just a strategic choice, discarded/changed when they found it wasn't working.
  
  
• Arguments are cicular and unwinnable, not made in good faith. They insist that they are completely logical and rational, but if they start debating you on something and you are winning the debate, they will switch over to a different tangent of the argument. If you win on that they will switch to another tangent. If you win on that they will switch to another. All the way back to the original argument, which they ultimately take up again as if your original argument never happened, and you have to argue the same points all over again. Then it just goes over and over. A few debates with BPD guys make it clear they do not argue in good faith, but merely TO WIN, and that they are not trying to reach some kind of mutual understanding, but (again) merely extract a concession. Often they do this by (just like with plowing) trying to wear down the opposition. Just argue, argue, argue until the other party tires of it and gives in. This works for them with a lot of people.
  
  
• All that said, they can be really magnetic, fun, cool, awesome people. They are extremely charming, and generally have networks of excellent people. Their status-consciousness makes them look for higher status people to connect with, and their tendency of burning up relationships with anyone they get too close with means they are always looking to keep their pipelines of interesting people flowing. It's sad, in a way, that they are so self-destructive in their personal relationships, because they are often such COOL, TALENTED people. You just can't ever get too close with them, because if you do, it's doomed to blow up and melt down.

That's my experience with that sort.

There's an article I read years ago that talks about male borderlines in detail, from a psychologist who specializes in treating people with BPD:

THE MALE BORDERLINE - Surviving the crash after your crush

You'll be learning about emotionally dangerous men here, and how to avoid them. There are very few females who haven't encountered a borderline...

web.archive.org

Can be cured?

Yes, with dialectical behavior therapy. This is the one form of treatment that's been shown to be effective for folks with BPD. Drugs don't work; normal psychotherapy doesn't work. DBT works by changing the mind's conditioning in response to fear, risk, relationships, etc.

The problem with BPDs and DBT is most don't stick with it. They might try it a few times, then decide they don't want to do it, and quit. But BPDs who stick with DBT can get themselves to basically regular person-tier emotional responses to things.

Also, this can be moved to a separate topic, in order to not derail.

Done.

I wouldn't worry about it, most likely you just have above average dark triad traits.

Yeah... many dudes involved in seduction have some smattering of Dark Triad traits.

Guys with BPD are EXTREME. They suffer relationship meltdowns, do all kinds of crazy things to not let people abandon them, have superhuman charisma, and are the most dogged pick up artists you will ever see. They're the endurance champs of seduction. They will go out and game for 12 hours straight until they find a girl they can pick up. Really wild mixtures of scintillating impressiveness alongside destructive/self-destructive tendencies.

Chase

 

[Spyce D]

@Alpha13SC,



Well, I can't Internet diagnose you, not knowing your traits/etc.

But from the BPD playboys I have known:

• Extremely appearance-conscious, with this entire image they are very, very careful to project and maintain. Not always necessary "pristine image", but they have a certain identity they are dead set on embodying and are very, very concerned that everyone see them that way.
  
  
• Cannot tolerate jokes at their expense whatsoever. At best seethe, at worst go on the offensive at even gentle, good-natured jabs, of the kind most guys gleefully trade back and forth with their buddies.
  
  
• Very status conscious. VERY.
  
  
• Large sexual appetite, basically sex-addicted. Prone to other addictions too (drugs, gambling, sugar, etc.). The ones who get good at pickup get good because they NEED fresh pussy regularly.
  
  
• Very identified with their penises... they will talk about how big their dicks are, how great they are at using their dicks, about women worshipping their dicks, etc. When you're in their good graces they will typically also build you up by joking around about how you have a massive schlong as well, women love your schlong, etc.
  
  
• Constant manipulations they are running on everyone around them. If they are good, and you are not the sort who would do this to men yourself normally, you will question yourself... like, "It seems like he is using a technique on me. But this guy is my friend. There's no reason to run a technique on me. Is he using manipulation tech on me?" If you question the guy he will act hurt and say he would never do something like that and try to convince you that he is being totally forthright.
  
  
• Focused on always possessing the moral high ground (guys like this are where I learned it from). They must be morally unimpeachable. The truth is they are often doing dirty deeds, but then claim that they are spotless and anyone suspecting them of anything wrong is an affront to their strong moral fiber. They will NEVER admit to wrongdoing, ever, unless there is a way for them to spin it into something that makes them look even better ("All right, I did make a little white lie, but look how well it turned out! It blah blah blah blah...").
  
  
• Absolutely blameless. Nothing is ever their fault. Like @Surveyor notes, the ones I have known have been very focused on causality. I knew a BPD playboy who would speak constantly about causation and causality, and talk about how other people's actions caused all these things. I used to debate with him about the pointlessness of discussing causality in human affairs, because you can always point to a singular event and say, "There -- that is what caused all this," but someone else can point to something a few hours or days or weeks earlier and say, "No, see -- there's the TRUE cause," and someone else can point to another event that preceded that event, ad infinitum. Didn't matter; because they are always looking to shift the blame, they are always looking for "causes" to pin things on that indirectly ascribe the blame to others and not themselves.
  
  
• Generally have multiple girlfriends who are more or less convinced that they are the main girlfriend for the guy, even if he doesn't see them terribly often. Get their girls to pay for things for them, etc. Higher skill lower income BPD guys typically target financially well-off girls and live off them to a certain degree.
  
  
• Experts at gaining leverage on other people. They will unearth secrets or pull people into compromising situations then hang that over them when all their other manipulation tactics fail. The name of the game with BPD men is "leverage." If you're around a BPD guy and accidentally reveal some damning secret, don't let on it's a secret or that it's damning and just hope he doesn't notice and file it away for later use. Meanwhile you need to think like a BPD guy and be gaining leverage over him yourself, that way if he has a meltdown and starts threatening to destroy you you can trot out the leverage you have over him and dangle that and make him realize what he's really looking at is mutually-assured destruction.
  
  
• Excellent at using flattery -- really the best you will ever see. Can flatter you until you feel like the greatest person on earth, with this brilliant, perceptive BPD guy as the singular champion who realizes how incredible you are. At the same time, they will try to isolate you from others by making you suspicious of others' motives (while, again, presenting themselves as morally impeccable do-gooders who wouldn't hurt a fly and are 100% on your side).
  
  
• Always, always, always focused on winning every single confrontation they have. There is no reality where they will back down or accept defeat. They will make strategic retreats from bigger demands while still demanding smaller concessions. "Get a concession" is the name of the game with them. This makes them talented same-day / same-night PUAs, because they are capable of persisting until the girl just gets fed up and walks or until she breaks and goes along with the guy. They lose girls they could've gotten with more patience, but they also close a lot of girls most guys would've written off as "yellow lights" or even "red lights" or "too fickle", "too closed off", etc., just by plowing and plowing and plowing until the girl either leaves or complies.
  
  
• Will use emotions in ways that make you wonder if they even actually feel emotions, or if it all part of a con. e.g., sudden emotional breakdowns that they use to try to get something they want by appealing to sympathy. Sudden bursts of anger also used to try to get what they want by intimidation. If it doesn't work their emotions may change suddenly to something completely different, but they are still trying to get the same thing they were after -- almost like the emotion was simply just a strategic choice, discarded/changed when they found it wasn't working.
  
  
• Arguments are cicular and unwinnable, not made in good faith. They insist that they are completely logical and rational, but if they start debating you on something and you are winning the debate, they will switch over to a different tangent of the argument. If you win on that they will switch to another tangent. If you win on that they will switch to another. All the way back to the original argument, which they ultimately take up again as if your original argument never happened, and you have to argue the same points all over again. Then it just goes over and over. A few debates with BPD guys make it clear they do not argue in good faith, but merely TO WIN, and that they are not trying to reach some kind of mutual understanding, but (again) merely extract a concession. Often they do this by (just like with plowing) trying to wear down the opposition. Just argue, argue, argue until the other party tires of it and gives in. This works for them with a lot of people.
  
  
• All that said, they can be really magnetic, fun, cool, awesome people. They are extremely charming, and generally have networks of excellent people. Their status-consciousness makes them look for higher status people to connect with, and their tendency of burning up relationships with anyone they get too close with means they are always looking to keep their pipelines of interesting people flowing. It's sad, in a way, that they are so self-destructive in their personal relationships, because they are often such COOL, TALENTED people. You just can't ever get too close with them, because if you do, it's doomed to blow up and melt down.

That's my experience with that sort.

There's an article I read years ago that talks about male borderlines in detail, from a psychologist who specializes in treating people with BPD:

THE MALE BORDERLINE - Surviving the crash after your crush

You'll be learning about emotionally dangerous men here, and how to avoid them. There are very few females who haven't encountered a borderline...

web.archive.org

Yes, with dialectical behavior therapy. This is the one form of treatment that's been shown to be effective for folks with BPD. Drugs don't work; normal psychotherapy doesn't work. DBT works by changing the mind's conditioning in response to fear, risk, relationships, etc.

The problem with BPDs and DBT is most don't stick with it. They might try it a few times, then decide they don't want to do it, and quit. But BPDs who stick with DBT can get themselves to basically regular person-tier emotional responses to things.



Done.



Yeah... many dudes involved in seduction have some smattering of Dark Triad traits.

Guys with BPD are EXTREME. They suffer relationship meltdowns, do all kinds of crazy things to not let people abandon them, have superhuman charisma, and are the most dogged pick up artists you will ever see. They're the endurance champs of seduction. They will go out and game for 12 hours straight until they find a girl they can pick up. Really wild mixtures of scintillating impressiveness alongside destructive/self-destructive tendencies.

Chase

You just described me , even though I am a beginner but I got the traits .

No idea if its good thing or bad .

 

[Rakehell]

This is all anecdotal but additionally I find bpd girls tend to be alot more insufferable than guys.
I think it’s because the inherent victimization and suicidal ideation, is more or less ridiculed by society when it comes to men.

Thus openly expressing these on the norm risks abandonment for them rather than adoration, unlike bpd women. With fear of abandonment being pretty much a key facet of bpd.

These distorted ways of thinking don’t necessarily come out as soon as with a bpd girl.

Also I’ve found that bpd individuals tend to resent/steer clear of people who aren’t easily emotionally blackmailed and or manipulated (that they are not interested romantically in). And carry a big fish in a small pond mentality.

 

[Alpha13SC]

@Alpha13SC,



Well, I can't Internet diagnose you, not knowing your traits/etc.

But from the BPD playboys I have known:

• Extremely appearance-conscious, with this entire image they are very, very careful to project and maintain. Not always necessary "pristine image", but they have a certain identity they are dead set on embodying and are very, very concerned that everyone see them that way.
  
  
• Cannot tolerate jokes at their expense whatsoever. At best seethe, at worst go on the offensive at even gentle, good-natured jabs, of the kind most guys gleefully trade back and forth with their buddies.
  
  
• Very status conscious. VERY.
  
  
• Large sexual appetite, basically sex-addicted. Prone to other addictions too (drugs, gambling, sugar, etc.). The ones who get good at pickup get good because they NEED fresh pussy regularly.
  
  
• Very identified with their penises... they will talk about how big their dicks are, how great they are at using their dicks, about women worshipping their dicks, etc. When you're in their good graces they will typically also build you up by joking around about how you have a massive schlong as well, women love your schlong, etc.
  
  
• Constant manipulations they are running on everyone around them. If they are good, and you are not the sort who would do this to men yourself normally, you will question yourself... like, "It seems like he is using a technique on me. But this guy is my friend. There's no reason to run a technique on me. Is he using manipulation tech on me?" If you question the guy he will act hurt and say he would never do something like that and try to convince you that he is being totally forthright.
  
  
• Focused on always possessing the moral high ground (guys like this are where I learned it from). They must be morally unimpeachable. The truth is they are often doing dirty deeds, but then claim that they are spotless and anyone suspecting them of anything wrong is an affront to their strong moral fiber. They will NEVER admit to wrongdoing, ever, unless there is a way for them to spin it into something that makes them look even better ("All right, I did make a little white lie, but look how well it turned out! It blah blah blah blah...").
  
  
• Absolutely blameless. Nothing is ever their fault. Like @Surveyor notes, the ones I have known have been very focused on causality. I knew a BPD playboy who would speak constantly about causation and causality, and talk about how other people's actions caused all these things. I used to debate with him about the pointlessness of discussing causality in human affairs, because you can always point to a singular event and say, "There -- that is what caused all this," but someone else can point to something a few hours or days or weeks earlier and say, "No, see -- there's the TRUE cause," and someone else can point to another event that preceded that event, ad infinitum. Didn't matter; because they are always looking to shift the blame, they are always looking for "causes" to pin things on that indirectly ascribe the blame to others and not themselves.
  
  
• Generally have multiple girlfriends who are more or less convinced that they are the main girlfriend for the guy, even if he doesn't see them terribly often. Get their girls to pay for things for them, etc. Higher skill lower income BPD guys typically target financially well-off girls and live off them to a certain degree.
  
  
• Experts at gaining leverage on other people. They will unearth secrets or pull people into compromising situations then hang that over them when all their other manipulation tactics fail. The name of the game with BPD men is "leverage." If you're around a BPD guy and accidentally reveal some damning secret, don't let on it's a secret or that it's damning and just hope he doesn't notice and file it away for later use. Meanwhile you need to think like a BPD guy and be gaining leverage over him yourself, that way if he has a meltdown and starts threatening to destroy you you can trot out the leverage you have over him and dangle that and make him realize what he's really looking at is mutually-assured destruction.
  
  
• Excellent at using flattery -- really the best you will ever see. Can flatter you until you feel like the greatest person on earth, with this brilliant, perceptive BPD guy as the singular champion who realizes how incredible you are. At the same time, they will try to isolate you from others by making you suspicious of others' motives (while, again, presenting themselves as morally impeccable do-gooders who wouldn't hurt a fly and are 100% on your side).
  
  
• Always, always, always focused on winning every single confrontation they have. There is no reality where they will back down or accept defeat. They will make strategic retreats from bigger demands while still demanding smaller concessions. "Get a concession" is the name of the game with them. This makes them talented same-day / same-night PUAs, because they are capable of persisting until the girl just gets fed up and walks or until she breaks and goes along with the guy. They lose girls they could've gotten with more patience, but they also close a lot of girls most guys would've written off as "yellow lights" or even "red lights" or "too fickle", "too closed off", etc., just by plowing and plowing and plowing until the girl either leaves or complies.
  
  
• Will use emotions in ways that make you wonder if they even actually feel emotions, or if it all part of a con. e.g., sudden emotional breakdowns that they use to try to get something they want by appealing to sympathy. Sudden bursts of anger also used to try to get what they want by intimidation. If it doesn't work their emotions may change suddenly to something completely different, but they are still trying to get the same thing they were after -- almost like the emotion was simply just a strategic choice, discarded/changed when they found it wasn't working.
  
  
• Arguments are cicular and unwinnable, not made in good faith. They insist that they are completely logical and rational, but if they start debating you on something and you are winning the debate, they will switch over to a different tangent of the argument. If you win on that they will switch to another tangent. If you win on that they will switch to another. All the way back to the original argument, which they ultimately take up again as if your original argument never happened, and you have to argue the same points all over again. Then it just goes over and over. A few debates with BPD guys make it clear they do not argue in good faith, but merely TO WIN, and that they are not trying to reach some kind of mutual understanding, but (again) merely extract a concession. Often they do this by (just like with plowing) trying to wear down the opposition. Just argue, argue, argue until the other party tires of it and gives in. This works for them with a lot of people.
  
  
• All that said, they can be really magnetic, fun, cool, awesome people. They are extremely charming, and generally have networks of excellent people. Their status-consciousness makes them look for higher status people to connect with, and their tendency of burning up relationships with anyone they get too close with means they are always looking to keep their pipelines of interesting people flowing. It's sad, in a way, that they are so self-destructive in their personal relationships, because they are often such COOL, TALENTED people. You just can't ever get too close with them, because if you do, it's doomed to blow up and melt down.

That's my experience with that sort.

There's an article I read years ago that talks about male borderlines in detail, from a psychologist who specializes in treating people with BPD:

THE MALE BORDERLINE - Surviving the crash after your crush

You'll be learning about emotionally dangerous men here, and how to avoid them. There are very few females who haven't encountered a borderline...

web.archive.org

Yes, with dialectical behavior therapy. This is the one form of treatment that's been shown to be effective for folks with BPD. Drugs don't work; normal psychotherapy doesn't work. DBT works by changing the mind's conditioning in response to fear, risk, relationships, etc.

The problem with BPDs and DBT is most don't stick with it. They might try it a few times, then decide they don't want to do it, and quit. But BPDs who stick with DBT can get themselves to basically regular person-tier emotional responses to things.



Done.



Yeah... many dudes involved in seduction have some smattering of Dark Triad traits.

Guys with BPD are EXTREME. They suffer relationship meltdowns, do all kinds of crazy things to not let people abandon them, have superhuman charisma, and are the most dogged pick up artists you will ever see. They're the endurance champs of seduction. They will go out and game for 12 hours straight until they find a girl they can pick up. Really wild mixtures of scintillating impressiveness alongside destructive/self-destructive tendencies.

Chase

Thank you for response!

 

[Regal Tiger]

Chase's post just described a frenemy of mine. I always thought he was just a psychopath. But BPD makes a lot more sense after reading through all that