FR Boyfriend Zone (She Got Me a Gift!!!)... Any advice?

[BlackBolt]

So this situation is TOTALLY different then what I'm used to. I usually don't keep going after girls I haven't slept with by Date 2 MAX so I need some help on this guys.

How We MET
Saw her at the gym and she is a fucking dime. I talk to her in a rest set of her workout and she's super excited to meet me. Put my number in her phone within 10 mins and dipped.

Text Convo
Nov. 21st
(Few hours later) Her: Hey there its Gym Dime
Me: Hey! I'm about to eat at dorm, you have a meal plan?
Her: Haha yes I do but I'm stuffed, I might go over there to study in a bit though so if I do I'll see what you're doing
Me: Ew studying on a Friday =P... But ok sounds cool
Her: But on the plus side... Just a few finishing touches then the weekend will be all mine =)
Me: Ah, you're an astute freshman lol, ok lemme know when you're heading over
Her: Whatcha up for?
Me: Just chilling
No response

Nov 23
Me: Hey dime, hope the weekend was fun! Let's get some food or coffee this week before break what's your schedule like
Her: I'd like that! I mostly just have class in the mornings, so avoiding that it's just whatever works for you. Where are you from?

Nov 24
Me: Hey let's grab some dinner at dorm tomorrow evening
Her: By any chance could you do coffee tonight instead? I got outta classes Wednesday so I think I'm leaving tomorrow evening
Me: Oh that's awesome... I've got dinner plans tonight but I could possibly be free around 10ish, if that works for you. If not we can just get together after break
Her: Okay there's a good chance that I'll be pretty settled in by then but if not I will get ahold of you, we live close enough its not a hassle anyways. But have fun at dinner!
Me: Hey finished dinner early, free for coffee at 8:45ish?
Her: Sure! where ya wanna go?
Me: *coffee place by dorm*
Her: Perfect meet there at 8:45?
Me: Sounds good omw now

Date
Date was good, bouta 1.5 hours, deep dive, but she cut it short and said she had to get up early due to busy day tomorrow.

Me: Hey had fun last night you're cool to talk to... let's do it again after break. Have fun at home!
Her: Right back atcha! Thanks for the interest in my life, I feel like we talked about me the whole time lol. Have a relaxing and safe break as well =)

Dec 2
Me: Nice seeing you in the Gym, I had to work off that holiday pudge lol, let's grab a bite this week, when ya free?
Her: Hahah you were grindin hard today, sweat looks good on you though I'm packed tomorrow but perhaps Thursday, Friday, or anytime this weekend
Me: Lol I try to actually break a sweat at the Gym once every blue moon ... hmm Yea I got work Thurs but I'm free after... How's 7ish @ dorm
Her: =P there's a slight chance that I have a review session then but I'll let you know. By the way what is your last name?
Me: Ah ok Fri might be better then, cool just let me know... and ____

Dec 5
Me: Hey still free tonight?
Her: hey I'm at the gym right now, but after I'd love to do something
Me: Lol no prob just hmu when you're all set
Her: Alright I'm over at dorm
Me: Cool omw down

Date & Back at my place
This date was probably about 45 mins - 1hr at Ben & jerry's. I mentioned favorite movies and she said she loves Blow. I invite her over to the dorm to watch it. She agrees and we head out. Back at the dorm she kicks her boots off and hops on the bed with me. I'm laying down and she's sitting upright. I pull her down to where she's laying directly in front of me but facing the tv so we're in a spooning position. I escalate within 10 minutes of the movie. Got her shirt up and she has sexy nipple piercings. I'm sucking her nipples and trying to get her pants off with one hand but she shoots my hand away and sits upright just looking at the movie. She says she doesn't want to be a prude but not tonight. I say no prob and say let's watch the movie so I pull her back down calmly. I then begin escalating again 2 minutes later and we're kissing again then I go for the pants. This time she gets up puts, put her boots and jacket on, and starts heading for the door, I'm moving slowly and calmly still laying down gently call her name but she says she's about to go. I tell her let's just watch the movie but she refuses. I then say fine let me at least walk you out, but she refuses, but in a chill way, then says you're already comfortable text me tomorrow and tell me how you like the movie then closes my door. Fuck!

Dec 6
Me: Hey don't know what you got planned for the rest of the day but we should get some food from *restaurant* later. Haven't been there in a while
Her: Alrighty! My roommate is just getting back so I'm gonna see if she has anything planned but if not maybe we could do dinner there
Me: Cool just let me know
few hours later
Her: Did you like blow
Me: Lol I actually fell asleep halfway through =/

Dec 9th
Me: Hey supposed to do cardio today and I'm a fat ass lol, you got any good cardio workouts for me
Her: Lol I don't much buy the fat ass part but I can prolly help you out on the cardio (she then sends me a huge laundry list of shit but I was just using this text convo as a way to get us talking again)
Me: Lol believe what you want but I know the truth =(... How are your finals going?
Her: Hush hush =) well 1 down and 3 to go so it's a process lol. Buttt they are what they are
Me: Ha fasho when do you leave for home?
Her: tells me Tues
Me: Ok cool, you paint right?
Her: Not as much as I'd like cause of school and stuff but a bit, why?
Me: A friend of mine has an exhibit at the art museum, I wanna catch it on Saturday, you should tag along!
Her: Yeah I'd definitely enjoy that! Make sure to hit me up when you're planning to go, depending on when we can make our *restaurant* run too =P
Me: Lol fasho, it closes at 5 so we should have time, if you behave
(That last part was a bit weird)

Dec 13th
Me: Hey wanna head to the art museum around 3ish
Her: yeah that'd be great I'm really glad you still wanted to go
Me: Yep, we can meet at dorm and go from there
Her: Alright I'll head over
Me: Cool I'm in the main lobby

Date
About a hour at museum and 1.5 hrs at restaurant then we leave and start heading towards my dorm start walking towards the stairs and then she says well this was fun but I've got to study for my final on Mon. Then we hug, part ways, and she takes the exit door by her apt.

Later that night I get a text
Her: Sweet dreams
Me: Off to bed already... the nights still young!
No response

The surprise
So during the date I let her know that my 21st bday is Tues (tomorrow) and after my final I was about to get hammered. Well my dorm shot me an email earlier today that I had a package. I thought nothing of it. I eventually go to pick it up about an hour ago (10 pm) and to my surprise its an elaborate wrapping with a note saying (in summary) Have a great break and birthday, see ya next year <3 Gym Dime =). Not gonna lie this shit made my day and I called her but got no response. Send her this text

Me: Hey tried calling, you might be sleep already tho... Just wanted to say you're so awesome , I'll be eating these cookies while I study for my exam! Btw. you're just making me fatter but I don't mind
Her: I'm not asleep but I am back home! I debated cause you keep calling yourself chubby but I was like fuck it every guy likes food. I hope you have a great birthday =D
Me: Lol yea this is a great way to start it! Have fun at home can't wait to see ya next year
Her:

Advice???
I don't know if this girl is uber experienced or not and haven't really dealt with a girl like this that I wasn't already sexually involved with yet. Any advice on how I should proceed?

 

[TheGoldenBoy]

You can do what I did. The girl i'm seeing is a straight up religious virgin but maaan that ass was made fo' sinnin'!! Lol She's 22 and graduates this spring. I've been inside of her 4 times but never broke her hymn cuase she's rediculously tight and it hurts her too much. That being said she literally complements my personality and likes on each from front anime to sports.(Even likes pick-up games of football). Her virginity is really important and after 2-3 weeks of push and pull in terms of sex I decided to just take the plunge. Actually she insisted that we not put a label on it and only try. If it works cool,if not atleast we aren't stuck wondering. She really wants to try sex since ahe's rarely been sexually encouraged or made to feel comfortable like i've done so. In my opinion u might need to work on other girls and put less effort into her. If she's interested she'll come around again

 

[BlackBolt]

Wow still a virgin by the end of college? That's actually great girlfriend material in my opinion. I like girls who are more on the conservative/inexperienced side too. Yeah the one in the field report besides being just awesome to talk to and passionate about fitness like me doesn't party or drink much either. Don't worry though I'm not gonna get oneitis, I had a threesome the Saturday night she didn't respond. How long have you been working on the religious/virgin girl?

 

[TheGoldenBoy]

Been workin' on her for about 2 weeks but god those legs and ass are so nice since she does zumba. She just really over thinks things alot is gets trapped in her thoughts concerning her virginity. She also afraid of the pain too

 

[Explosive Results]

I then say fine let me at least walk you out, but she refuses, but in a chill way, then says you're already comfortable text me tomorrow and tell me how you like the movie then closes my door.

After they tell me text them I quickly say "No, you text me!" otherwise you're chasing if you comply to her demand. They don't always text and some take a few days, but if she doesn't I leave it 2-3 days before re-initiating contact so she forgets she's made the demand. Meanwhile there are other girls to be messaging!

Throughout your correspondence you were often the first to initiate contact and it would end with her not replying, so once again you're chasing. You're not being a challenge or making her work for you. Are you meeting up with other girls and if so, is she aware?

You also seem a bit self-deprivating causing her to write:

Her:I debated cause you keep calling yourself chubby but I was like fuck it every guy likes food.

There's displaying humility but it seems what you're doing is conveying low self esteem which doesn't paint yourself as a sexually attractive man in her mind.

I'm a bit on the chubby side but there are some girls who repeatedly tell me I'm a sexy man to my face. I rarely mention my weight unless the moment calls for it.

 

[BlackBolt]

Been workin' on her for about 2 weeks but god those legs and ass are so nice since she does zumba. She just really over thinks things alot is gets trapped in her thoughts concerning her virginity. She also afraid of the pain too

Yeah man gotta love zumba and hot yoga!

Throughout your correspondence you were often the first to initiate contact and it would end with her not replying, so once again you're chasing. You're not being a challenge or making her work for you. Are you meeting up with other girls and if so, is she aware?

Yeah at the moment I'm talking to two other girls of the same caliber as her (looks wise). I doubt she's aware of who else I'm talking to I didn't really bring it up specifically but I'm pretty popular even on our big campus. When we go out I normally run into and briefly say hi to a girl who I've been with before or just acquaintances with so pre selection shouldn't be much of a problem. Yeah I know the chasing vibe seems particularly strong in this case but I was trying to use date compression (she put me in the boyfriend zone as early as the first date when she was talking about cooking me bear and venison in the future). I also haven't been meeting that many new girls within the past couple weeks due to it being finals time. Next semester things should return back to normal. What do you think the next date with her should be after this winter break? Just right back at my place for a movie or quick coffee and movie?

You also seem a bit self-deprivating causing her to write:

BlackBolt wrote:
Her:I debated cause you keep calling yourself chubby but I was like fuck it every guy likes food.

There's displaying humility but it seems what you're doing is conveying low self esteem which doesn't paint yourself as a sexually attractive man in her mind.

The thing about this one is I think she knows its me being humble/silly due to the fact that I'm in wicked shape. I go to a Big 10 school and people normally think I'm on the football team or body build. I see where you're coming from though. I'll probably tone the joking on that down.

 

[Explosive Results]

Next semester things should return back to normal. What do you think the next date with her should be after this winter break? Just right back at my place for a movie or quick coffee and movie?

The objective is to move fast so get her back to your place as soon as possible!

Although you had a failed seduction attempt last time you took her home and stalled since, so if the attraction isn't as strong she may be reluctant to put herself in that situation again. You may need a quick coffee so you can warm her up, then bounce her home when the chemistry is sparking... Or maybe it already is so just get her home ASAP!

And on the flip side, if your failed seduction attempt has had no lasting negative repercussions it can be easier to get girls back to your place if they've been there before.