Can much can you get laid if have no emotions?

[Shake&Bake]

Quick question. I recently been thinking about improving my pickup success as fast as possible and came to conclusion I'd have to fail more. I decided that I can just spam approach and try out at least some techniques that might work for me three times before I analyze then move on to another style or technique. The thing is I don't wanna fully involve myself into the girls I talk to because the failure would be alot more painful if I'm truly trying to invest in them. I know it would kinda make me mechanical but I would have time to work on my emotions afterward.

So my question is. Is this a good plan?

 

[Frost]

I don't really think so. And after all there is a big line between being emotionally invested in women you've just approached/started seeing and being an approach robot. I'm still an inexperienced beginner, but I went from being too invested in a woman before even asking her out, thus turning the inevitable LJBF into something painful, to being as unattached as possible at first, but we are human after all, and you can't keep emotions away, because that would be like building a fortress to protect yourself, only to find out later that you're the prisoner.

I suggest you check out this thread Avoiding The Serial Monogamy and Picking Yourself Up by the Bootstraps and my reply as well. It's a more elaborate way of saying what I want to say here XD

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Even if you are a sociopath, you will still have emotions. It just means all your emotions are 100% about you (unless you turn on your empathy).

You're just being a pussy, that's all.

Nothing wrong with it...if you want to be a pussy. Easy going life when I've done it (sometimes still do). Not much responsibility, you just kinda take what life gives ya (which you always do even if you're a boss but you...you internalize it differently).

Mechanical means being able to override emotions with thought and process - you're thinking of emotions as something they aren't. They are signposts. System feedback. You seem them as ends in and of themselves - that's your problem right there.

You don't want to involve yourself with girls emotionally? Then why should they give you anything in return?

See where I'm doing with this???

Cheers,

Hector

 

[Drck]

"The thing is I don't wanna fully involve myself into the girls I talk to because the failure would be alot more painful if I'm truly trying to invest in them"

Shift away from this kind of thinking, you are anticipating failure and pain, and guess what will happen - failure and pain will come, simply because you are afraid to invest...

Learn the basic concepts - girls are cute, silly, funny and sexy. Girls are fun, they bring pleasure, good emotions, happy times...

Learn abundance mentality, so you don't get stuck with a girl that you love while she is running away from you...

Learn to naturally connect with people, especially with girls - not everything is humping and dumping, sex doesn't always have to be the objection... You don't have to be always sexy, and dominant, and seducer, and winner, and pulling fast, and having this or that frame, and and sleeping with 50 girls, and getting X numbers and Y dates, and and and.... It's all BS... Simply talk to her, explore what kind of person she is, what she likes or dislikes, see what vibes are there if any - and walk away, with a smile... Maybe you will be even surprised, when she asks you for a phone number and calls you for a date...

 

[Shake&Bake]

I'm not trying to cutt off all my emotions. I'm just trying to find a way where girls won't waste my time. Because I'm trying to learn as fast as possible and because I'm at that point where I really don't want to Imagine dealing with countless amount of pressure and failure more than I do already. I know I may push away some girls that like me but I know that usually unless you have rock solid frames and can't properly get her to invest after meeting it's like a mute point. I want to improve my social skills without dealing with more failure

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

That's like saying you want to learn how to take punches...without getting punched in the face.

There's really no way to learn how to keep your eyes open, focused, and not shy away from fists, unless you do it 1,000 times and realize that you're going to get hit anyways, so might as well smile like a fucking jackal and stare the punches in the face, ya?

Same thing with girls. Put yourself out there, get emotionally raped a few hundred (thousand?) times and it'll naturally just...not really hit you.

It's called experience and it's the only thing that will solve your problem. Sure, apply critical thinking and deconstruct your insecurities along the way to diminish their effect, but you don't have enough data to be doing that from what I'm reading. You're still too idealistic about all this stuff.

Forward.

Hector

 

[Shake&Bake]

That's like saying you want to learn how to take punches...without getting punched in the face.

There's really no way to learn how to keep your eyes open, focused, and not shy away from fists, unless you do it 1,000 times and realize that you're going to get hit anyways, so might as well smile like a fucking jackal and stare the punches in the face, ya?

Same thing with girls. Put yourself out there, get emotionally raped a few hundred (thousand?) times and it'll naturally just...not really hit you.

It's called experience and it's the only thing that will solve your problem. Sure, apply critical thinking and deconstruct your insecurities along the way to diminish their effect, but you don't have enough data to be doing that from what I'm reading. You're still too idealistic about all this stuff.

Forward.

Hector

See that's the thing. I experienced rejected alot of times and keep experiencing it. It doesn't feel like nothing it's hurts everytime. Ive always dealt with been downed my whole life. The last thing I wanna do is go back out there and experience it firsthand in more often from more women

 

[trashKENNUT]

Shake&Babe,

Seems like everyone never ask what is that makes you tick. There's something deep where you got hurt badly or something particular. Is there something more to it?

Maybe i can help manage it, and everyone can see a new perspective and have more empathy, to learn pain is something different for everyone.

Zac

 

[Shake&Bake]

Shake&Babe,

Seems like everyone never ask what is that makes you tick. There's something deep where you got hurt badly or something particular. Is there something more to it?

Maybe i can help manage it, and everyone can see a new perspective and have more empathy, to learn pain is something different for everyone.

Zac

Its not really a certain event its a bunch of them its just how my eyes open into how I'm not in control of alot of things in my life. I had a really rough time in highschool and although I knew about the pickup community I never really approached girls because Rejection crippled me and I didn't want to be that guy approaching girls and getting rejection. And because I was at a stage where I couldn't make friends or talk to family members it was really clear I would have to go through a bunch of rejections to get good and it seemed like a lose lose situation. I don't know if I getting better. I don't go out because I don't have a car. I'm getting a car very soon to start hitting the club scene and approaching. But when I see girls at work or during the day it's almost a situation I'm not at all familiar with (she's with friends, she has a boyfriend, the guy she dates are bad boys, She only go for light colored guys, or she's married, or she is very experienced making moving things forward hard. I want to hire a coach but no notable coaches in Jacksonville Florida

 

[trashKENNUT]

Shake&Babe,

I don't know if I getting better. I don't go out because I don't have a car. I'm getting a car very soon to start hitting the club scene and approaching

Err no no. Unless you want to go get your self esteem be wrecked more, it's not recommended but it can also have the possibility of an upside.

But when I see girls at work or during the day it's almost a situation I'm not at all familiar with (she's with friends, she has a boyfriend, the guy she dates are bad boys, She only go for light colored guys, or she's married, or she is very experienced making moving things forward hard. I want to hire a coach but no notable coaches in Jacksonville Florida

Err not always.

Often times, the internet makes it seems like everyone is living a good life. They can go fuck themselves. Haha. On a serious note, people become more transparent as you get experience. Doesn't mean that you can see through everything though.

As to your question.

she's with friends? This one requires some luck if you are new because people are just about going their lifes and people approaching is just gonna be like a salesperson.

she has a boyfriend, the guy she dates are bad boys? You mean the guy who gives you smirks and everything when you not checking out her girlfriend, even. Haha! Pretty funny sometimes.

She only go for light colored guys? Depends on who she meets
she's married? Depends on who she meets.

she is very experienced making moving things forward hard? Usually only naive, meek girls or girls who are relatively inexperienced will do this kind of stuff. The experienced ones are more forgiving.

Do the newbie stuff and also say Hi to people.

Zac

 

[Shake&Bake]

Thanks Zack