Can you please give me your honest opinion ?

[One_of_kind_200]

So i went to this single mingle party. I ended up with no numbers or women. I want your honest input. Honesty doesnt mean that its always my fault, it can also mean its her fault.


Heres what happened .....

FIRST INSTANCE:

A couple of ladies entered the place, i walked up to them very confidently and good tontality( loud enough to be heard like an alpha male). I said hello n cracked some jokes, they said i have the best opener they ever received asked me if it works for me, i said always. They said im funny, i said and handsome. Then said they just got here n want to discover the place. (It really seemed genuine and honest) so they left. Just to see them with a couple of guys talking for an hour then left the place.

Not much about discovering, isnt it? Whats going on ?

Note: one of the ladies actually works for Tinder and shes here looking for a guy LOL


Second instant
Blonde with big boobs was sitting with her three gfs. I walked up with very great opener. She was very receptive and talked to me for a bit and laugh. She looked very guinine in her intertest. We talked about how we have thibgs in common. I really celt like there was chemistry. Then all of a sudden, she turns around n talks to her gf. I paused for a bit and said ill come back to you, she said fine. I waited for a while , i saw her with a guy, i went up n joined the conversation. The guy asked her if she wants drink she said no , then i got bored n left. She spent the whole evening with her gfs. Desposite the fact its an event for singles.

What could i have done differently ?


Third instance
I talked to a cute blonde for a bit . She went to the bathroom but her friend was around. I talked to her friend then when she mentioned she went to a private school, i said kids there get spoiled by their teachers( i wanted to tease her bc this how to spark attraction) she didnt seem to like it n said that was closed minded. So they left with an excuse that they want drinks.

Fourth instance
I went up to a couple of ladies with my strong opener and was told that id get attention because of my energy n co fidence. I asked why cant we talk ? Then said they work for the event host so they r busy. I insisted to talk to one of them by saying just bc you work here doesnt mean we cant be potentionals, she said she will come back n find me. So the impression that they were busy. Later on i see her socializing with three ladies. So obviously she wasnt that busy.
Whats going on ?

How i spent the night:
I spent the night mingling around from ladies to ladies. Id say 50% were resoptitive and 50% werent by showing poor body language such turning around n talk to her friend. As for the other 50 %, i closed the conversation by saying ill be back. This is because i ran outta things to say. Seems to me theres nothing after my strong opening.


My mentality:
To be honest, i was in the mood of having a laugh. For example, id say things like " how you doing" " i wasnt doing good untill now" or " no need to look further bc your prince charming is right here"
I guess what im trying to say is that i put having a laugh as my primrary goal rather than looking for dates.

 

[Drck]

OK, you asked for it... It is obviously difficult to evaluate actions or even person through reading online text, so just my opinion about couple of points. Don't take it personally, my texts are not intended to insult you (or other guys), rather make clear points:


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"Can you please..."
>>>> Whoa! You are asking like a Nice Guy. 'Please' is sign of supplication, low value, submissive attitude... Quit it. By now you should know that girls don't really respect Nice Guys... Use 'please' at work when you get paid to talk nicely to customers. Don't use it around girls... Eh, screw customers too, never say 'please' again...

"A couple of ladies entered the place, i walked up to them very confidently and good tontality( loud enough to be heard like an alpha male)"
>>>> Low confidence... You are checking how you look and sound, you are comparing yourself to Alpha Male, or other male... Alpha male doesn't compare himself to anyone. Alpha male says things the way he wants, as loud or as quiet as he wants...
In my opinion, you worry too much how you look, how you say things and so forth... It is not really what you say and how loud, it is the underlying confidence that matters. IMO your confidence is low, girls can smell it...

"I said hello n cracked some jokes"
>>>> Why are you cracking jokes? Are you some sort of a fucking clown? Stop being funny... Girls laugh at clown but they don't sleep with them... You don't have to be overly serious either, rather you want to be just neutral, confident man with low(er) vibes... Cool dude...

"they said i have the best opener"
>>>> Again, why are you trying so hard, why do you have the best opener? Screw best openers, they are useless (as you can see)... A girl that sees you approaching her and pulling up some "great opener" already knows what kind of guy are you... She knows you were preparing and memorizing your speech (opener), she knows you are trying to impress her, which at the same time means - that you are a Low value man... Forget great openers, you don't need those, you don't want the girls laughing at you when you approach them for the first time... In stead, they should rather feel respect, curiosity, tingling...

"... the best opener they ever received asked me if it works for me, i said always"
>>>> The second part of the sentence... You approach them with clownish attitude, you are already working hard to impress them by having some great openner... So they ask if it works for you. They already know that it doesn't work, they can feel it in your attitude... You then keep going by being even more funny...

"Then said they just got here n want to discover the place. (It really seemed genuine and honest) so they left"
>>>> Exactly. They want to look all around the place, they want to see everything (and anyone) else... In other words, you didn't impress them with your attitude, you didn't impress them as a man...

"... (It really seemed genuine and honest) so they left. Just to see them with a couple of guys talking for an hour then left the place."
>>>> Yeah, that is a classical Nice Guy's experience... girls seem to be sweet, talkative, they tell you you are funny and handsome... they smile and laugh at whatever you say... but then they walk away to talk to (and fuck) other guys... Cancel your membership to Nice Guy's club, you don't want to be a Nice Guy...

"Blonde with big boobs was sitting with her three gfs. I walked up with very great opener."
>>>> Oh, stop it already with these great openers. They don't work...

"She was very receptive and talked to me for a bit and laugh"
>>> Laughed at what? And why? The girl is looking to hook up with some guy. Laugh usually decreases sexual tension, laugh makes you a funny, silly and cute Nice Guy... A guy who is harmless. A guy that is weak and supplicating... Again, you don't want to be silly Nice Guy...

"She looked very guinine in her intertest. We talked about how we have thibgs in common. I really celt like there was chemistry. Then all of a sudden, she turns around n talks to her gf"
>>>> It wasn't sudden... She was giving you a hint to disappear. She just made it in a very polite way, she didn't want to hurt your feelings... So first she threw some vibes at with you (to make you feel good and comfortable, make you feel the chemistry), and then she hinted you to disappear... You read her body language very well, you got her hint and - disappeared...

"I paused for a bit and said ill come back to you, she said fine.
>>>> NO! She turned away from you, she gave you a hint to disappear, she didn't show you any interest at all... You would have done 100x better if you said "screw you bitch" and walked away, in stead of saying "ill come back to you"... Basically, she is showing you that she is not interested, and yet you keep telling her that you will come back later on... Don't do that...

I waited for a while , i saw her with a guy, i went up n joined the conversation.
>>>> Oh... why the heck would you want to do that? Did she at least give you some hints that she wants to talk to you again? Was she looking directly in your eyes, smiled, or in any other way hinted that she wants to talk to you? I bet no, but I could be wrong...

The guy asked her if she wants drink she said no
>>>> In her eyes he was just a low life, begging her for drink, supplicating, asking her politely. He was such a Nice Guy... Even her NO fits him so nicely... He probably smiled back at her too, just to make sure she doesn't feel bad about telling him No... Eh!

"then i got bored n left"
>>>> Good. Leave, don't chase, don't look back....

"She spent the whole evening with her gfs. Desposite the fact its an event for singles"
>>>> Who gives a damn how she spent her evening? She didn't spend it with you, that is all matters... She didn't find any potential mate, she evaluated all guys there and move them to category 'Nice Guys'... That was the reason why she spent the rest of the evening with her GF's... Single, alone, all because there was no single man she could have a drink with... Learn...

"i wanted to tease her bc this how to spark attraction) she didnt seem to like it
>>>> You don't really spark attraction by teasing a girl... You spark attraction by manly behavior, attitude, actions... Work on fundamentals first, that is how you spark real attraction...

"So they left with an excuse that they want drinks"
>>>> Yeah, they left, they had drinks alone, without any guy there... In their eyes, all guys there were LOW value (Learn what is high value man) ...

"I went up to a couple of ladies with my strong opener"
>>>> You made me cry now... Stop it...

"I went up to a couple of ladies with my strong opener and was told that id get attention because of my energy n co fidence"
>>>> Wait a minute... What energy? Who told you to approach girls with high energy? Do you mean like energized bunny energy? Have you ever seen or heard about how Alpha Male approaches girls with high energy?

"I asked why cant we talk ? Then said they work for the event host so they r busy"
>>>> Translated from womanese, words like "I am busy", "I can't talk right now" usually means "please disappear, I am not interested"...

"I insisted to talk to one of them by saying just bc you work here doesnt mean we cant be potentionals, she said she will come back n find me"
>>>> She tells you to 'diappear', but you kept insisting to talk to her... Not the optimal approach... She also said that she will "come back and find you". Did she? She never did... She didn't because she wasn't interested in you... A girl that is interested in you will come after you... Always watch for girl's actions, not what they says (memorize this sentence, it will be very handy in the future)...

"I spent the night mingling around from ladies to ladies. Id say 50% were resoptitive and 50% werent by showing poor body language such turning around n talk to her friend"
>>>> I would say that 100% were not receptive and not interested. Out of these 100%, 50% were nice and polite girls, and the other 50% just didn't give a damn about Nice Guys...

"As for the other 50 %, i closed the conversation by saying ill be back. This is because i ran outta things to say."
>>>> A girl that is interested in you will make the conversations easy on you. She will talk most of the time. Vice versa, a girl who is not really into you will make the conversations drag... She will not be sharing anything, she will not be asking you questions, overall vibes will be low (cold),... Also, for the learning purposes, don't tell them that you will be back: (1) If they are not interested that much, telling them you will be back is pointless, it only further decreases your value. (2) If they are interested, you don't want to signal what will you do next. You just leave and let them guess... then, ideally, they will go after you (chase you) and start talking to you (investing into you)...

"Seems to me theres nothing after my strong opening"
>>>> Enough with those strong openings... They don't work... Next time approach girl(s) with weak opening, how about that...

"To be honest, i was in the mood of having a laugh"
>>>> Honesty is very good. Ask yourself: did you go there to laugh, or did you go there to get some girl? As you can see, laughing and making fun doesn't really do it for you (nor anyone else)... Quit it... If you want a girl you have to get more serious...

"I guess what im trying to say is that i put having a laugh as my primrary goal rather than looking for dates"
>>>> There, you said it yourself... Does it work for you? It doesn't... Quit it, girls are looking for a solid man, not funny, cute, and silly Nice Guy...


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Great lessons to learn bro, nothing better than personal experience"

1. Regardless of results, you did many great approaches. You did lots of actions, and that is truly great, 100 x better than sitting home and reading about it. You da man! Keep it that way, many guys can't do that, you'll see successful in no time because it is ACTIONS that speak... Just cut down the fun and high energy... Go to the same place next time, keep approaching, just this time do it with different attitude... Low, cool energy,...

2. Read and learn about Nice Guys. Read how they behave, what they do (and don't)... Realize that Nice Guys have very low success rate with girls... You don't want to be a Nice Guy, it doesn't go anywhere...

3. Read about fundamentals, and mainly work on Fundamentals... Fundamentals will give you the true attraction kick that you are looking for... Fundamentals, then more Fundamentals...

...Let us know how are you doing with this new attitude... If you do the three steps above, I bet there will be way more girls showing true interest in you...


Good Luck

 

[One_of_kind_200]

>>>> Low confidence

How is it low value? Im not comparing myself. Im just being the best version of myself.

>>>>>>"I said hello n cracked some jokes"
Do you think I joked too much ? I think it was only a few to break the ice then transitional to get-to-know you phase, but why it never worked?

>>>>"they said i have the best opener"
What do you think of the girls who DID talk to me after my opening? Then the conversation ended after my HIGH end opening. But then, I kinda agree that I may come as trying to hard, no ? I thought the guy who gets the girl is the one who stand out from the rest of those with silly and boring opening?


>>>>>>"... (It really seemed genuine and honest) so they left. Just to see them with a couple of guys talking for an hour then left the place."
I think you may have a point there, ( we need an expert opinion here) although I dont consider myself to be the Nice Guy type of men. I think the other two guys didnt have any strong opening or conversational skills, just boring every day talk, Yet probably got their number. ( please note that the women left alone after being with them for a while, in other words, after they were done with the guys, they just left. I saw the guys talk to other women"


>>>>>>"She spent the whole evening with her gfs. Desposite the fact its an event for singles"
I agree on this one.

>>>>>"I went up to a couple of ladies with my strong opener and was told that id get attention because of my energy n co fidence"
PUA lessons say the artist must come with HIGHER energy than hers.

>>>>>>"I asked why cant we talk ? Then said they work for the event host so they r busy"
I dont understand why would ANY one think that any girl who leaves after 7 seconds of interactions is the guy's fault ?


>>>>>"I spent the night mingling around from ladies to ladies. Id say 50% were resoptitive and 50% werent by showing poor body language such turning around n talk to her friend"
I agree.

>>>>"To be honest, i was in the mood of having a laugh"
I agree


>>>>"Go to the same place next time, keep approaching, just this time do it with different attitude... Low, cool energy,... "
Theres an event tomorrow. But please understand that having a confident opener and a dom tonality is a great thing, no ?


>>>>"Read and learn about Nice Guys. Read how they behave, what they do (and don't)"
I just had to read this. You are right.