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LMR strikes again: What's up fellas,
Just went out on a date with this girl I met at my job a week ago. She was pretty cute, tall, skinny with light brown eyes and I sexy skin complexion. I basically called her In to try this shoe product that I sell at the mall. She was all for it laughing and taking my teasing well. However She gave me shit test throughout the whole interaction from approach through my failed escalation. Eventually I broke her down and she agreed to meet up for a date. I sent her an Icebreaker text with her giving a neutral response. Then a few days later I sent some meet up text. They were alright but nothing too impressive.
Then today comes and we agree to meet around 8. I'm running late so I let her know and she's ok with it. Once we meet up she's wearing a nice outfit consisting of leggings and a fancy top and some red flats. She seems a bit nervous so I get up and give her a hug, teasing her about her height. We talk abit and i tease her(lighfully trhoughout) using callback humor from last week. We have a few instances of incidental touching and I start to deep dive a bit. I ask her where she's from and she tells me how she lives in the city with her mom. Now this is where I think I fuck up at a bit. She ask where I live and I give her very vauge answeres e.g.
So anyways, were eating and It's a humorous convo mixed with rapport and some deep diving. I used chase frames abit too saying how "she seduced me, brought me her on a date, etc" and how "shes a bad girl and i'm the good one at the table." When I ask her what's the wildest thing she's ever done she doesn't know how to respond. I tell her my most craziest moment and then she proceeds. During this subject her eyes light up and she seems more enthusiastic towards the subject. After this things naturally die down and I get the check from the waiter. She signals that i should pay for the food and I state "that's for girlfriends only." She laughs and is caught by surprise for a sec and then we split the bill for what we got. I then mention how we should go to the local park nearby. Earlier in the date she says she's an outside person and likes nature so I figure I could use this to isolate.
We leave the restaurant and then I walk to her car. It's actually on the other side of the mall we're at and at this moment she's leading in our search for the car. I mention how the place where she parked is this way and she asks how do I know, i'm not familiar with the area?" I actually used to live in the area but I guess when I talked to her the first time I mentioned that I wasn't familiar with the area. I try deflecting a bit( building off this, I did this a lot on our date, looking away or ignoring some of her questions and just looking at her with a sexy facial expression.) We eventually get into her car, her in the drivers seat and me in the passenger seat. During the walk and towards the end of our time at the restaurant the vibe really died down and things started to get awkward. I tried to connect abit telling her who I live with and what I do with my spare time. I know she's still into me because she's following my lead, comfortable with my touch and still asking personal questions.
This is still happening inside of her car. I try to play some music like Chris brown, the weeknd, etc to set a more sexual mode. I notice her body language is facing away from me towards the door and I start worrying. I feel as if the date has took a turn for the worst and I contemplate leaving. We aren't saying much except mentioning about the music playing and what our taste in music are. She's very distant and whenever I try touching to her she would lightly pull away. Im thinking about just ending it and going on my way but decide against it, I plan to go for a kiss. Now there isn't any smooth or easy way to do this besides reaching over the center dash and planting one on her lips.
I look at her and then at her lips, stare abit and then say "Im about to try it", basically signaling that i'm going for the kiss. She says no that's a bad idea but she's still just giving me teasful, playful responses. I tell her " i'm just going to go for it, hold her by the side of her face and pull her in for a kiss. She kisses me back and we kiss for abit. She's actually super passionate when doing so however, whenever I go for tongue she backs off. She tells me she doesn't like tongue kissing because it's "sloppy" lol. We continue on and off kissing but every time I tongue kiss she'll pull away saying the same shit. I'm kind of annoyed at this point. This girl is giving me resistance for simple shit and it's really aggravating but I still push through playfully not showing frustration on my face. I stop and pull away and i'm silent for a minute or two.
Eventually I kiss her abit more then go towards her neck, while also trying to feel her up and down her body. IT goes well but every time I linger there she says "no, she doesn't like neck kissing and she just wants to chill." However I know her body shifted and she turned fully towards me. I proceed to kiss her more and more and teasing her to draw her toward my seat. Eventually I get her by the sides and lift her on top of me to my seat. She's still giving these bullshit objections but a mostly ignore them.
Once she's sitting in my lap I proceed to do the same creating escalation ladder. I even start grabbing her ass, holding her hair back but it's still objections and resistance. Then the point of no return comes. She says how "this isnt just chilling" how her definition of chilling is sitting in the drivers seat and me in the passenger. Every time I kiss she puts her hand over her mouth or her neck. When I try grabbing her hand she'll lock her fingers in a high five so I cant lock my hands with hers. I say something along the lines of "this is natural. How do you think you were born? How do you think I was born?" She reads this as me playing for sex, and says "it's not her version of chilling, how she doesnt know me and all shits of the sorts. I say "were just getting to know each other" but she uses my line of "it's natural" to show my real intentions. I decide to pull back and show her I'm not super pushy and she proceeds to go back to the drivers seat WTF!
At this point I don't know what to do. I tried pushing and pulling, using logical reasoning( but that backfired) and then showing more affections. However, it would just lead to more objections and annoying resistance and It got old after awhile. When she moved back to the drivers seat she wouldn't let me kiss her anymore, she'd just move her head away. I got tired and tell her to drive me to my car. I ask her if she's always this stubborn and she says not with everybody. She says " I'm too much." She says she wont drive me to my car unless I put my seat belt on and all this other dumb shit. Eventually I give In feeling this situation has hit a point of no return. She drops me to the car and I jet off.
Summary
I felt I could've got more from her. The last two dates with different girls I couldn't get any farther than this, at least on first date standard. It's the same resistance and no matter what technique I use I still face it with every girl.
However with this girl she gave me much more resistance than the others and just alot of shit testing and frame testing. I feel I could build more comfort and a connection with her and not dodge as many questions. She most certainly got the impression I was just trying to fuck and that really hurt my momentum when we got to the car. Also, my logistics are trash. Trying to physically escalate in a car isn't smooth and girls immediately see my intentions. Idk If i need to get the more sexually turned on before we even get to the car or If it's just a comfort thing.
Hopefully I can move past this pesky LMR and finally get some pussy ;(
Let me know what you guys think I could have done differently
Just went out on a date with this girl I met at my job a week ago. She was pretty cute, tall, skinny with light brown eyes and I sexy skin complexion. I basically called her In to try this shoe product that I sell at the mall. She was all for it laughing and taking my teasing well. However She gave me shit test throughout the whole interaction from approach through my failed escalation. Eventually I broke her down and she agreed to meet up for a date. I sent her an Icebreaker text with her giving a neutral response. Then a few days later I sent some meet up text. They were alright but nothing too impressive.
She's constantly putting up bullshit resistance to my andvances but i'm handling them alright.
Then today comes and we agree to meet around 8. I'm running late so I let her know and she's ok with it. Once we meet up she's wearing a nice outfit consisting of leggings and a fancy top and some red flats. She seems a bit nervous so I get up and give her a hug, teasing her about her height. We talk abit and i tease her(lighfully trhoughout) using callback humor from last week. We have a few instances of incidental touching and I start to deep dive a bit. I ask her where she's from and she tells me how she lives in the city with her mom. Now this is where I think I fuck up at a bit. She ask where I live and I give her very vauge answeres e.g.
This was a recurring theme throughout the night. I think in me trying to act mysterious I made her feel I wasn't genuine in my interest. I recently did this on another date last week where a girl would ask me questions and isntead I'd deflect them trying to make fun.
So anyways, were eating and It's a humorous convo mixed with rapport and some deep diving. I used chase frames abit too saying how "she seduced me, brought me her on a date, etc" and how "shes a bad girl and i'm the good one at the table." When I ask her what's the wildest thing she's ever done she doesn't know how to respond. I tell her my most craziest moment and then she proceeds. During this subject her eyes light up and she seems more enthusiastic towards the subject. After this things naturally die down and I get the check from the waiter. She signals that i should pay for the food and I state "that's for girlfriends only." She laughs and is caught by surprise for a sec and then we split the bill for what we got. I then mention how we should go to the local park nearby. Earlier in the date she says she's an outside person and likes nature so I figure I could use this to isolate.
We leave the restaurant and then I walk to her car. It's actually on the other side of the mall we're at and at this moment she's leading in our search for the car. I mention how the place where she parked is this way and she asks how do I know, i'm not familiar with the area?" I actually used to live in the area but I guess when I talked to her the first time I mentioned that I wasn't familiar with the area. I try deflecting a bit( building off this, I did this a lot on our date, looking away or ignoring some of her questions and just looking at her with a sexy facial expression.) We eventually get into her car, her in the drivers seat and me in the passenger seat. During the walk and towards the end of our time at the restaurant the vibe really died down and things started to get awkward. I tried to connect abit telling her who I live with and what I do with my spare time. I know she's still into me because she's following my lead, comfortable with my touch and still asking personal questions.
This is still happening inside of her car. I try to play some music like Chris brown, the weeknd, etc to set a more sexual mode. I notice her body language is facing away from me towards the door and I start worrying. I feel as if the date has took a turn for the worst and I contemplate leaving. We aren't saying much except mentioning about the music playing and what our taste in music are. She's very distant and whenever I try touching to her she would lightly pull away. Im thinking about just ending it and going on my way but decide against it, I plan to go for a kiss. Now there isn't any smooth or easy way to do this besides reaching over the center dash and planting one on her lips.
I look at her and then at her lips, stare abit and then say "Im about to try it", basically signaling that i'm going for the kiss. She says no that's a bad idea but she's still just giving me teasful, playful responses. I tell her " i'm just going to go for it, hold her by the side of her face and pull her in for a kiss. She kisses me back and we kiss for abit. She's actually super passionate when doing so however, whenever I go for tongue she backs off. She tells me she doesn't like tongue kissing because it's "sloppy" lol. We continue on and off kissing but every time I tongue kiss she'll pull away saying the same shit. I'm kind of annoyed at this point. This girl is giving me resistance for simple shit and it's really aggravating but I still push through playfully not showing frustration on my face. I stop and pull away and i'm silent for a minute or two.
Eventually I kiss her abit more then go towards her neck, while also trying to feel her up and down her body. IT goes well but every time I linger there she says "no, she doesn't like neck kissing and she just wants to chill." However I know her body shifted and she turned fully towards me. I proceed to kiss her more and more and teasing her to draw her toward my seat. Eventually I get her by the sides and lift her on top of me to my seat. She's still giving these bullshit objections but a mostly ignore them.
Once she's sitting in my lap I proceed to do the same creating escalation ladder. I even start grabbing her ass, holding her hair back but it's still objections and resistance. Then the point of no return comes. She says how "this isnt just chilling" how her definition of chilling is sitting in the drivers seat and me in the passenger. Every time I kiss she puts her hand over her mouth or her neck. When I try grabbing her hand she'll lock her fingers in a high five so I cant lock my hands with hers. I say something along the lines of "this is natural. How do you think you were born? How do you think I was born?" She reads this as me playing for sex, and says "it's not her version of chilling, how she doesnt know me and all shits of the sorts. I say "were just getting to know each other" but she uses my line of "it's natural" to show my real intentions. I decide to pull back and show her I'm not super pushy and she proceeds to go back to the drivers seat WTF!
At this point I don't know what to do. I tried pushing and pulling, using logical reasoning( but that backfired) and then showing more affections. However, it would just lead to more objections and annoying resistance and It got old after awhile. When she moved back to the drivers seat she wouldn't let me kiss her anymore, she'd just move her head away. I got tired and tell her to drive me to my car. I ask her if she's always this stubborn and she says not with everybody. She says " I'm too much." She says she wont drive me to my car unless I put my seat belt on and all this other dumb shit. Eventually I give In feeling this situation has hit a point of no return. She drops me to the car and I jet off.
Summary
I felt I could've got more from her. The last two dates with different girls I couldn't get any farther than this, at least on first date standard. It's the same resistance and no matter what technique I use I still face it with every girl.
However with this girl she gave me much more resistance than the others and just alot of shit testing and frame testing. I feel I could build more comfort and a connection with her and not dodge as many questions. She most certainly got the impression I was just trying to fuck and that really hurt my momentum when we got to the car. Also, my logistics are trash. Trying to physically escalate in a car isn't smooth and girls immediately see my intentions. Idk If i need to get the more sexually turned on before we even get to the car or If it's just a comfort thing.
Hopefully I can move past this pesky LMR and finally get some pussy ;(
Let me know what you guys think I could have done differently
