So, recently there were two girls in school who I was trying to go out with. I had stumbled a little with both of them when escalating previously, but seeing as next week is the last week I'd see both of them (end of the college semester), I figured I'd try something since I probably won't see them in the same class again (well, I'll deal with it if I do by sheer coincidence). But I need some advice on ways I can turn these around:
Jane
So, since she's a svelte and cute girl, I saw her lingering around outside after the class one day and talked to her. Since then, she's been "conveniently" the classroom at the same time as I do when our class disperses (we sit at different places) so that its easy for me to talk to her after class as we walk. Of course I do; and after talking to her thrice this way I asked her if she'd like to grab a bite outside school one day and she says she "has a boyfriend". I was genuinely a little disappointed so I responded with an "aww man" (real chump response, I know) before we transition back to normal conversation after 2 seconds or so of awkward silence.
Well, on hindsight, I should've went ahead and set up a date with her anyway. But now that this is set in stone and I'm seeing her again next week, what is the best way for me to reverse the frame that "we can't go out because she has a boyfriend"? I've thought of "so, do you still have a boyfriend?", which can be funny (but ineffective, since its putting the onus of deciding on her, which you DON'T want since girls love plausible deniability).
Jenny
Did a project together; we talk a lot and joke a lot. There was also one time when Jane walked into me flirting lightly with Jenny, which was a little awkward, but probably irrelevant to the whole scheme of things.
So, after running into Jenny sittin' around in school one day, I struck up a convo with her while we were waiting for our lecture to start. It was great because we laughed a lot. So after the day was over and I was on my way home, my mind started wandering and it dawned on me that Jenny was actually pretty hot. So I messaged Jenny a little more (we worked on a project together, so I had her number) and then told her we should hang out outside of school, BUT only after her broken arm was healed (yes, she walks around school with a big ass cast). She told me she just fell again and hurt herself, and I took that as a soft "no" (but rereading it now it seems like it actually isn't at all).
Fast forward two weeks, she comes to class in a dress without her cast. And after class she looked like she was waiting for somebody (probably me), but at that time the combination of my foul mood (I didn't do too well for one of my tests) and what I thought was a soft no from her previously led me to just smile at her and walk out the classroom without asking her along (despite my gut feeling telling me to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT). I hope she doesn't auto-reject from that (you guys think she will?).
I'm just gonna sit beside her and her friend in class this week and find a way to isolate her after class and just go "so where should we hang out at"? Good idea?
Misc.
I realise I shoot myself in the foot a lot in my dealings with girls. I'd give up and go straight to the conclusion that they aren't interested whenever they give me the slightest resistance. Whenever I post on this forum and recount my experiences to learn from them, however, I'd figure out that things weren't actually bad at all; I was ejecting myself out of girls who were interested in me. I guess that the lesson I've learnt here is that girls give a hard time to guys they like too sometimes because they have no idea what they are doing.
These are just musings I'm writing to get my thoughts flowing and together. And yes @DrexelScott, ignore what girls say and focus on what they do. I remember that
Jane
So, since she's a svelte and cute girl, I saw her lingering around outside after the class one day and talked to her. Since then, she's been "conveniently" the classroom at the same time as I do when our class disperses (we sit at different places) so that its easy for me to talk to her after class as we walk. Of course I do; and after talking to her thrice this way I asked her if she'd like to grab a bite outside school one day and she says she "has a boyfriend". I was genuinely a little disappointed so I responded with an "aww man" (real chump response, I know) before we transition back to normal conversation after 2 seconds or so of awkward silence.
Well, on hindsight, I should've went ahead and set up a date with her anyway. But now that this is set in stone and I'm seeing her again next week, what is the best way for me to reverse the frame that "we can't go out because she has a boyfriend"? I've thought of "so, do you still have a boyfriend?", which can be funny (but ineffective, since its putting the onus of deciding on her, which you DON'T want since girls love plausible deniability).
Jenny
Did a project together; we talk a lot and joke a lot. There was also one time when Jane walked into me flirting lightly with Jenny, which was a little awkward, but probably irrelevant to the whole scheme of things.
So, after running into Jenny sittin' around in school one day, I struck up a convo with her while we were waiting for our lecture to start. It was great because we laughed a lot. So after the day was over and I was on my way home, my mind started wandering and it dawned on me that Jenny was actually pretty hot. So I messaged Jenny a little more (we worked on a project together, so I had her number) and then told her we should hang out outside of school, BUT only after her broken arm was healed (yes, she walks around school with a big ass cast). She told me she just fell again and hurt herself, and I took that as a soft "no" (but rereading it now it seems like it actually isn't at all).
Fast forward two weeks, she comes to class in a dress without her cast. And after class she looked like she was waiting for somebody (probably me), but at that time the combination of my foul mood (I didn't do too well for one of my tests) and what I thought was a soft no from her previously led me to just smile at her and walk out the classroom without asking her along (despite my gut feeling telling me to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT). I hope she doesn't auto-reject from that (you guys think she will?).
I'm just gonna sit beside her and her friend in class this week and find a way to isolate her after class and just go "so where should we hang out at"? Good idea?
Misc.
I realise I shoot myself in the foot a lot in my dealings with girls. I'd give up and go straight to the conclusion that they aren't interested whenever they give me the slightest resistance. Whenever I post on this forum and recount my experiences to learn from them, however, I'd figure out that things weren't actually bad at all; I was ejecting myself out of girls who were interested in me. I guess that the lesson I've learnt here is that girls give a hard time to guys they like too sometimes because they have no idea what they are doing.
These are just musings I'm writing to get my thoughts flowing and together. And yes @DrexelScott, ignore what girls say and focus on what they do. I remember that
