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Chase And Zac Old Conversation Bring Up Why Fundamentals are so key.

trashKENNUT

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I wrote a post on getting girls by not using beliefs.

And that here n now is all that we have. Chase throw in a great post and noted that he have known guys who believes in religion/some deity that it is compelling for girls to want to get to know them.

Now, i thought for a moment. Do Chase noted his info because he is giving a devil's advocate, or is he looking at it mainly from level of beliefs? or if he is looking at it from my point of view?

Because i needed Chase to look at it from my view where this view is not a view at all. This view is basically looking at the existence of belief as merely a process.

You see. My comment noted that all we have is here n now. But really, it's to serve a legacy, to procreate.
Chase noted that this guys believe in religion/deity so much. But really. it's to serve a legacy, to procreate.

I remember arguing with one of the guys, here. I told him that it look rectangular from your side, but it is still a fucking box, a shape of a box. And he was stunt.


I need Chase to know that. I don't know why. If Chase don't look at it that way, it means i know something that he doesn't. and that kinda kills me in a sense.

I also think it's the lack of "father" growing up or it is man's natural flaw, that void.

Zac
 
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ZacAdam dude! This is merely perspective a rectangle is a box and a box is a rectangle. Ya have here n now an ya have ya belief, if ya have one.

It's debatable if your view of here n now is actually a belief so ya actually using a belief. I know ya looking more at religion but that's subjective to people. If it's you, it's you. If it's not then don't worry about it. It's possibly devil's advocate, both perspectives work for different people an ya belief might actually affect the here n now.

I don't see how beliefs or living in the moment has to do with fundamentals being key? If ya decided to go out unprepared an didn't approach because of it it's affected ya here an now. Beliefs may be a process but so is meeting girls?? It's all relative, procreation an legacy.

Attraction is simply that, it's just our nature dude.

Fundamentals are key to getting a chance, it puts ya ahead of the competition but I've seen enough guys with horrible fundamentals with attractive girls...
 

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Flux,

Fluxcapacitor said:
This is merely perspective a rectangle is a box and a box is a rectangle.

Your mere perspective is what shapes the world.

I don't believe that it's 'mere'. Our beliefs aren't mere. If it is 'mere', most of us aren't poor. But that's not the point i am trying to make.

I find it interesting. Is it because of how i write that people have a certain view of me or that they can't see even a glimpse of where i am standing and seeing.

That Michael Malice note that people are not capable and emphatic enough to see from other people's pespective though.

Fluxcapacitor said:
I don't see how beliefs or living in the moment has to do with fundamentals being key?

It is mentally, per se. Beliefs are part of the process. But that belief is technically there, empty. Seeing where one operates from, mentally or what i am noting here ultimately, from beyond belief, you actually see where you are going wrong.

That itself is a fundamental. Because your body is just an extension.

Fluxcapacitor said:
Attraction is simply that, it's just our nature dude.

You prove my point. This is what i am trying to note. If you operate from beyond belief, or before belief...... if that's a way to put it.

Fluxcapacitor said:
I've seen enough guys with horrible fundamentals with attractive girls...

Then i don't think you see fundamentals the same way i do. And i can humble myself to see what a man does that do attracts the girl. Often thru sales funnel (social circle BS, been around long enough)

Zac
 

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ZacAdam dude! Perspective is mere cause it can be changed. Change ya environment, get different results, feedback or ya situation an perspective changes. Ya asking people to look from ya perspective but have stated changing ya viewpoint isn't always easy.....
Beliefs an perspective aren't mere, yet if all we are is the moment then it is. Everything changes right?

A don't write to clear either dude, yeah people will have a certain view of both of us. A find some of what ya posted in the past hard to figure out which does make it hard to get a glimpse of where ya looking.

If people are not capable an emphatic enough to see from an other perspective ya can't expect people to see what ya show them. Then again market something well enough an people buy in...

Mentally per se I get. Kinda the inner game which are part of the process an shape the moment. It can cloud ya judgement an looking beyond or before can clear this up, but isn't this just breaking interactions down to the simplest form? Ignore the bull shit which is actually touched upon here on GC

This is a fundamental but more so for ya vibe an just being relaxed in yourself an the interaction. A good core game would do this to stop ya over thinking. A like to over think way to much after it's happened.

We do see fundamentals different, sales funnel of social circle BS I get, ya can paint a powerful picture or show power an status in the group. A still question seeing guys with posture like quasimodo, badly dressed with ill fitting clothing getting with attractive girls. Some of these guys a know personally an there's no sexual vibe or anything. This ranges from overweight to rake thin.
 

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Fluxcapacitor said:
A still question seeing guys with posture like quasimodo, badly dressed with ill fitting clothing getting with attractive girls.

They are different. That's not fundamentals, but if you think of it as fundamentals of getting girls. Then it is. Preselection. :)

ZAc
 
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