Chat I had with POB About the various dates structures and Processes

[Witcher]

I recently had this conversation with @POB where he answered some of my questions about the different dates structures and processes more exactly the Three Bounce Method from Skills and the Two Dates System from BD. He thought that this may help other members too, so I'm sharing the content here:

Witcher:

Hey POB,
Since I don't want to hijack the thread but would love your inputs. I read that you use the 3 Bounce method but you only talked about laying the girl on that same date. How do you proceed when you can't take her home on the same day? Do you end it earlier, do you kiss her during or at the end?
Thanks

POB:

It depends.

Usually it's best to end the date without a kiss if she's not already isolated with you.

If you don't plan on getting her to your bed on the same day, just revert back to the 2-date Blackdragon model. No need to waste the extra time bouncing her if sex is not happening right there.

Hope it helps.

POB:

POB:

BTW, this is not my method.

It was just adapted to online from a number of great day/night gamers who use it all the time on live game (venue change).

Witcher:

Thanks, man. I dabbled with the BD method since I was a little bit skeptical and wanted to see other ways. But seems like you know that it works and it's actually better for me to pull it off.

Just a some other question about it if you don't mind:
1. Does the date have to be one hour? I always find myself going past it because In my conversation are actually good and we don't feel the time passing.

2.Should we absolutely follow his relationship talk then sex talk or can I just deep dive the girl with some chase Frames?

Thanks again

POB:

1) It should be less than 1 hour...it has to leave that "I need more of this" taste in her mouth. 45 minutes is more than enough to create sexual tension and intrigue. Just work on your convos to condense information (practice in the mirror every day).

2) Just start the topics and let her do 80% of the talking.
I usually do this:
- fluff stuff like family, career, pets etc;
- start to kino her forearm, hair and thighs;
- ask about her last relationship (BF, crush, whatever);
- then I lead her to picture a sexual experience she had with that guy and let her talk about it;
- talk briefly about one of my sexual experiences, usually something cool I did in the past (like sex on the beach....my personal blog has a post about it);
- use one sexual gambit to spike things up (pick JUST ONE from bellow and adapt to your style/personality);
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/313108-the-infamous-gambit
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/316594-smell-my-hair-gambit
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/17407-the-dark-side-gambit
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/316848-teevester-8-orgasms-routine-sex-talk-for-dummies
(this last one is my go to when I'm feeling bland)
- end the date

(don't foget to ask her over the very next day)

personal blog:

Witcher:

Went through your blog, pretty good stuff, will come back more i guess!

I see now for the necessity of the one hour now, will work on making them shorter and maybe use a timer as a short-term solution.

Will get myself started with one of the gambits. For ending the date, do you end it right after sex talk or do you come back to another topic first then end the date? Feels very weird to me to end the date as we are talking about sex but yeah not experienced enough!

then I lead her to picture a sexual experience she had with that guy and let her talk about it;

This is like an old SS stuff? So since you are present she will associate that feeling with you?

Thanks again man!

POB:

You SHOULD end the date when she's horny and eager to talk more about sex. I usually put an alarm on my phone and say "damn, sorry, I'm having a lot of fun wit you but I really need to go now". Just get up, give her a tight hug (meaning hug her like a man) and get out.

Witcher said:
This is like an old SS stuff? So since you are present she will associate that feeling with you?

More or less yes, you start with something familiar (past experiences) before going deep into the sexual stuff. When you are done with the gambits, she's already associating sex with you.

Comments and feedbacks are welcome. Thanks again to POB for his insights.

 

[Skills]

Just keep in mind the 3 bounce is more like for dates or meeting girls online... Also if you do not have the lay feeling, instead of plowing just do the 3 bounce method a second time in a different location.

 

[Witcher]

Just keep in mind the 3 bounce is more like for dates or meeting girls online... Also if you do not have the lay feeling, instead of plowing just do the 3 bounce method a second time in a different location.

I will have to study this way more then, since online and dates with girls from my network are my main ways for now. My biggest issue is how to end dates smoothly doing the 3 Bounce method, actually ending social interaction smoothly is a big SP of mine whether romantic or social.

POB advised doing the 3 Bounce Method when we plan to lay the girl on the date you seem to use for both. So how do you end your interaction when you don't invite her home?

Also,

Also if you do not have the lay feeling

So works for girls who are on the fence too?

 

[Skills]

I did a demo video