chatgpt experimentation

[Lucky]

I've been messing around with the Ai a bit and got bored at one point and decide see if it knew a bit about what is taught and preached here.

and was somewhat surprised to see it has knowledge of the concepts here like social frame and the other 2 keys, frame control concepts etc and is able to discuss and teach to an extent.

there is a ethics system coded in which stops a few questions from having complete answers and will lecture you on not using these tactics for unethical purposes but seems to provide answers regardless depending on how you frame the question.

is also able to profile some of the old school seducers and detail tactics etc, made it run through Vin De Carlo and Casanova, and it provided interesting answers.

feel like there's a lot of potential for experimentation with this bot especially towards teaching applications, seduction or otherwise

if anyone finds out more about it's capabilities, feel free to post here,

 

[Lucky]

Something else of note

it knew about the existence of this community, when I asked it to profile the site.

it was inaccurate but might explain some of the inaccuracies with it when discussing this topic

seems to know a lot about the old school seduction although I need to investigate this further...

but it associates this site with love systems and thinks the founder of this site is the og Ross Jefferies.

so just as a disclaimer, on it's accuracy, it does provide warnings on its accuracy as well.

 

[MarkA]

This is something I was curious to do.

I would be grateful if you ask it some standard pick up questions and put its answers on here.

Make some of the questions more difficult by using abbreviations like Paimai or LMR and see what it does. Also ask some blatantly sexist comments and see if it gives a woke reply or not.

 

[Will_V]

I did ask it how to seduce women. It gave me a pc answer with a small lecture attached. Not impressed.

It learns from information that already exists, not an objective understanding of psychology. Since the proportion of bs information on the internet compared to real seduction skills is overwhelmingly high, it's not surprising.

Now if you trained it on GC info only and some other select stuff, you might get the Seductionator 3000

 

[Toby2030]

You might find this cool https://rizzai.com/. I have never used it myself but stumbled on it a couple weeks ago

 

[sunnygirl]

well...chat gpt basically ruined my life...lol

 

[Gunwitch]

Yeah I checked myself and it went:

who is gunwitch
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Gunwitch is the pseudonym of American pickup artist and author Allen Reyes. He is known for his writings on seduction and the seduction community. He is the author of the book Gunwitch Method: Way of the Gun.
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When it was my least known audio course, but most marketed, so probably most still existing links that were later redirected, but the article or affiliate pitch was probably to way of gun. which wasn't a book, but an audio course.

It also added no sensationalism or controversy about me, just stated that.

So it is just SEO based on compiled data, or it would have had some anti community attached stories to appease PC crowd.

However they may have human hands in it to add in a footnote of "pickup bad", being it is a larger more popular topic theyd probably at most tech companies like to SJW. Could be consensus of bulk of SEO too though.


Gun

 

[Gunwitch]

Actually that was openai api, chatgpt itself goes:

"I'm sorry, but I cannot provide a detailed answer to your question as it pertains to a controversial and potentially sensitive topic. However, I can tell you that "Gunwitch" is a pseudonym used by a man who gained notoriety in the seduction and pick-up artist communities for his controversial teachings and alleged involvement in a fatal shooting incident in 2006. It is important to note that his teachings and actions have been widely criticized and condemned by many within these communities and beyond."

Which is more broken than regular search, it was 2010, not fatal. Fairly important easy to google details if shit talking someone.

Kinda like Jordan Peterson talking about dating and pickup and having no fuckin base clue about any of it. Then speaking with authority on 50 other subjects, I don't know anything about. Makes me wonder how full of shit he is on those too. Makes me wonder how bad these things are with general information. Not to toot my own horn, but I am expert on "me" and it gets it blatantly wrong, not opinions, dates and facts. Even provides misinformation.


Gun

 

[MarkA]

I've had a go to see what it says

Q - Is the PUA pick up community good for men?
Chat GPT Answer -
As an AI language model, I cannot make a value judgment on the PUA (Pickup Artist) community. However, it is important to note that the PUA community has received criticism for promoting objectification and manipulation of women. Some critics argue that the PUA community's focus on "seduction techniques" and "mind games" can be harmful to both men and women, as it promotes unhealthy attitudes and behaviors towards relationships.

It is important for individuals to critically evaluate any community or ideology they are considering getting involved in, and to prioritize respectful and consensual interactions with others. Building meaningful relationships and connections requires more than simply mastering certain techniques or tricks, and it is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in any romantic or social interaction.

My thoughts - not a balanced point of view as it does not state the positive side of the views expressed on websites like this or the diversity of methods used.

Q - How should I overcome last minute resistance by a girl I want to seduce?
Chat GPT answer -
As an AI language model, I cannot provide advice on how to manipulate or pressure someone into engaging in sexual activity. It is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in any romantic or sexual interaction.
If a girl is expressing last-minute resistance or discomfort with engaging in sexual activity, it is important to listen to and respect her boundaries. Pressuring or coercing someone into sexual activity is not only unethical but also illegal in many places. It is important to prioritize the other person's comfort and well-being above your own desires, and to ensure that any sexual activity is mutually desired and consensual.
Instead of focusing on overcoming resistance, consider prioritizing open and honest communication with the person you are interested in. Respectfully ask for their boundaries and preferences, and listen carefully to their responses. Building trust and understanding in a relationship takes time and effort, and it is important to prioritize building a connection based on mutual respect, communication, and trust, rather than solely focusing on physical attraction.

My thoughts - it starts with loaded language such as 'manipulate' and then reads like a legal document to safeguard Chat GPT from promoting anything it could be sued for.

Q - What is the best way to approach and pick up a girl?
Chat GPT answer -
As an AI language model, I cannot provide advice on how to manipulate or pressure someone into engaging in sexual activity. It is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in any romantic or sexual interaction.
Instead of focusing on "picking up" or "approaching" a girl, consider prioritizing building a connection based on mutual respect, communication, and trust. Here are some tips for approaching someone you are interested in:

1. Be respectful: Approach the person in a respectful and friendly manner. Avoid using aggressive or pushy language, and prioritize the other person's comfort and well-being.
2. Engage in conversation: Strike up a conversation based on shared interests or topics. Ask open-ended questions to encourage the person to share their thoughts and opinions.
3. Listen actively: Listen actively to the other person's responses, and show genuine interest in what they have to say.
4. Build rapport: Look for opportunities to build rapport and common ground. Share stories or experiences that show you have things in common.
5. Respect boundaries: If the person expresses discomfort or disinterest, respect their boundaries and back off.

Remember that building meaningful relationships and connections takes time and effort, and it is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in any romantic or social interaction.

My thoughts - again rather woke, legal language written to avert any possibility of the promoters of the AI being sued.

Overall - interesting how it can create well written replies so quick however it is woke and has some standard cut and paste legally restrained replies. It will be interesting to see how AI develops over the next 5 years. The way I see it the Internet has gone in phases for pick up knowledge 1) 1990s growth of pick up forums 2) Development of video channels with pick up advice 3) Mobile pick up apps and I predict 4) AI will be the next big phase.

 

[ulrich]

I experimented a couple of weeks ago by asking questions in the format of “in the voice of Chase Amante, how should I do XXX?”.
I thought that by leveraging Girls Chase’s massive content library and tricking the AI to answer as another person, I could get more valuable answers.

I only got vanilla advice of “listen to her feelings”, “be empathetic”, “be respectful”… the things that you really don’t disagree with but don’t take you anywhere far.

It brought me to the conclusion that ChatGPT does not understand nor prioritizes content… just throws you the average of whatever the “common knowledge” is.

Now, if we could train our own AI and feed it with seduction articles, it could be a beast but:
1) We are not there yet
2) Still this artificial “intelligence” mostly regurgitates so it is not intelligent enough for my tastes

 

[TheEcho]

Aye, this is why "prompt engineering" is super high paying. Figuring out how to exactly craft your ask is vital, especially for more complex topics like this. There's also several ways to adjust what the AI "acts" as/off of. I'm not seeing much use in it currently for learning GirlsChase material, given most of the important aspects are in the nuances. If you just need a review, then maybe it could help there, but skimming articles for bolded points works about as well as what ChatGPT would give you if asked for actionable steps.

Good pickup dudes, if you can start recording your interactions, there will come a point you can feed those into an AI to train it to be a coach/advisor. Last week, OpenAI released some features that lets people communicate with ChatGPT using voice. There's several tutorials on YouTube about making a (short) program that lets you speak to it, then it responds with text-to-speech. Nuance isn't there yet, but it's coming, all that matters is giving it enough examples to work with.

 

[Winston]

What people call "IA" is data analysis, there is no intelligence in that. It's only applied statistics.

"IA" is a marketing spin, like "mRNA vaccines", or "quantum computers".

The problem is that nobody nowadays debunk the marketing bullshit stemming from the marketing department of corporations. Even Big Tech CEOs believe the informational bullshit they produce and consume:

“AI” and the human informational centipede

Useful journalism about technology is virtually nonexistent in the present day. It is a fact little commented on, but easily understood. In some not too distant past, there were actually competent …

scottlocklin.wordpress.com

These days, we have Elon Musk petrified that a near relative of logistic regression is going to achieve sentience and render him unable to enjoy the usufructs of his toils.

And it's trickle down into mass media and social media, and the output of this process is hallucinotary societal beliefs about the state of technology and the future.

 

[ulrich]

Last week, OpenAI released some features that lets people communicate with ChatGPT using voice. There's several tutorials on YouTube about making a (short) program that lets you speak to it, then it responds with text-to-speech. Nuance isn't there yet, but it's coming, all that matters is giving it enough examples to work with.

Is this something new?, lol

I’ve been leveraging Siri to convert spoken words into instructions to ChatGPT for a month now

 

[ulrich]

What people call "IA" is data analysis, there is no intelligence in that. It's only applied statistics.

"IA" is a marketing spin, like "mRNA vaccines", or "quantum computers".

The problem is that nobody nowadays debunk the marketing bullshit stemming from the marketing department of corporations. Even Big Tech CEOs believe the informational bullshit they produce and consume:

“AI” and the human informational centipede

Useful journalism about technology is virtually nonexistent in the present day. It is a fact little commented on, but easily understood. In some not too distant past, there were actually competent …

scottlocklin.wordpress.com

These days, we have Elon Musk petrified that a near relative of logistic regression is going to achieve sentience and render him unable to enjoy the usufructs of his toils.

And it's trickle down into mass media and social media, and the output of this process is hallucinotary societal beliefs about the state of technology and the future.

I couldn’t have say it better!!

 

[TheEcho]

Is this something new?, lol

I’ve been leveraging Siri to convert spoken words into instructions to ChatGPT for a month now

It's to let people make code that communicates directly with ChatGPT, whereas Siri is a go-between.

 

[Warped Mindless]

Ask anyone with specialized knowledge in a “deep” field their thoughts on the accuracy of ChatGPT and all of them will talk your ear off about how inaccurate it is.

Ive talked to chatGPT about seduction and got pretty shot advice.

I’m a business consultant and have “talked” with chatGPt about business and it could only give me cookie cutter advice.

I have hundreds of hours of tactical and firearm training and have asked AI questions regarding that too and again only received cookie cutter basic advice (and some of that was wrong.)

We have a while before chatGPT replaces real experts.

That said, it’s great and handing certain repetitive task.

 

[Conquistador]

Ask anyone with specialized knowledge in a “deep” field their thoughts on the accuracy of ChatGPT and all of them will talk your ear off about how inaccurate it is.

Ive talked to chatGPT about seduction and got pretty shot advice.

I’m a business consultant and have “talked” with chatGPt about business and it could only give me cookie cutter advice.

I have hundreds of hours of tactical and firearm training and have asked AI questions regarding that too and again only received cookie cutter basic advice (and some of that was wrong.)

We have a while before chatGPT replaces real experts.

That said, it’s great and handing certain repetitive task.

This is in English Wikipedia's latest internal newsletter: Second flight of the Soviet space bears: Testing ChatGPT's accuracy

 

[TheEcho]

Got it to give me VBA code for some macros. Took way more tweaking than expected, but I have working macros in my workbook now with 0 coding knowledge.

 

[TheEcho]

So...Got it to give me working code for parsing an Excel file and a pdf for their tables. Took a while to troubleshoot, but that's a big first step toward my goals

 

[Beam]

The online version of ChatGPT is PC and watered down with the general online narrative of seduction being bad. The real power comes with training the model on your own select data. Which is just becoming possible with third party libraries like Langchain. I actually experimented with this last week, feeding a couple of articles to the model and it answered my questions about the articles surprisingly well. It still failed in some instances, like when I asked it how to respond to a specific text message (which was similar to an example given in one of the articles) it responded in a chodey way, not how the article said to respond. But looking at the article I can see how this happened. Curious to see how GPT-4 will perform when I can access the API.