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I'm a long time stalker of this site only recently starting to post as I'm in intermediate purgatory and want to take my game to the next level.
Don't want my reports to be a purely validation ego stroking exercise but break down of what has worked for me so others can benefit from it. I'll also have my fair share of situations that don't go my way and it will be interesting to get 3rd party perspectives on what I could have done better.
Without a further I was on my way to the gym and spot a gorgeous brunette, wearing double denim and black trainers with the low cut socks revealing bronze tanned ankles sitting down on the bus stop.
Initially I walk past her/behind the bus stop and nearly talk myself out of approaching her because I felt awkward but thought fuck it - what is there to lose?
I walk around the bus stop so that I approach her from the side/front and not abruptly come to her view from behind.
The first thing I say is just what came to my mind which was
me: "I like your outfit, it looks cool... sorry if that's a weird thing to say... that was it" (literally stumbling over myself lol mad rusty here)
her: "thanks"
me: I can leave you to it if you'd like ( I then have a warm smile and almost half-turn away, to show I'm socially aware and won't impose myself on her)
her: "no it's cool" ( it was her second reply that made me pick up on her accent right away - Italian one of my dam favorites
me: Ahhh you're Italian - which one north or south?
her: South
me: Ooooh you're the crazy ones ( said with a mischevious smile and a feinted uncomfortable shrug like that's not really a good thing)
her: nooo - we're the best actually ahah
We then chit chat about how long she's lived in London, I cold read that she works in marketing but she works in a nail salon. Been here for 3 years and lives literally 3 tube stops from myself (perfect) I think. Talk to her about Italy and how I'm going there in a few weeks but loved the food in Venice when I went last year.
Gracefully bow out as I'm mindful she's waiting for her bus so I ask for the number and say when she tends to be free. This was after checking that she didn't have a boyfriend. I call the number so she has mine then we leave it there.
As I walk to the gym her bus drives past mine and she's sat on the top and she looks down, smiles and waves. With that reaction I had a gut feeling it was fucking on.
2-3 hours later after gym/shower I send her a voice note. For those people who have a decent voice or want to stand out, this is my go to opening message. It's really low effort, prevents paragraphs but you can say a lot at once and tends to be positively received. Don't think many guys do it and I shouldn't give trade secrets out but fuck it - this site is niche enough as it is and has helped me a ton lol.
1st of many curveballs: I'm actually going to for a few days but maybe next week?
My online background would see this as a gentle rejection that won't happen but she's warm and gives time(s) when she's free so I propose a time and she bites.
1st Date 6 days later > Go through 2 bars in a space of 2 hours. Really just focus on getting her to open up to me - that's all my "game" really is these days. She tells me about her boyfriend of 6 years who had another girl the whole time, hints about losing one of her parents but doesn't share the whole thing. We laugh about the realities of living in our city in terms of price, how tiny rooms are but also how lovely our area is.
I also invite her home between the 2 bars but she declines... No big deal.
2nd date and 2nd Curveball > There's a delay of another 10 days for this date to happen as I go to Rome. Texting is purely logistical and "hope you have a good trip" in nature between the 1st and 2nd meet. I do this on purpose as it sets the precedent early. If you hardly text from the start - she won't find it weird when you continue to be that way. Anyway 2nd date is meet outside the tube station near my place then head to mine for deliveroo/food.
We get lebanese, I show her the communal pool and try to kiss her (she rejects me) I have a playful laugh of "Do you just not like me" and she says "I'm just not ready yet" I shrug and we have our food.
I let her play music on my speakers in our room and we just vibe and talk on my bed. She tells me about how family is close to her, how much she likes meat and couldn't be a vegan as well as letting me know the full story of how her dad passed away. We eat food and I try kiss her again to which she dodges it again
"Ugh I can't get anything from you today haha"
What's funny is that I just kept the whole playful no big deal energy while just focusing on her, so that she feels comfortable and just enjoys the moment. What actually ended up happening is after all my failed advances she grabs my head and kisses me whilst I'm mid-sentence lol.
Things soon get hot and heavy with kissing, grinding and feeling etc. I can only describe her as almost volatile in terms of how much passion and wriggling she physically did. Don't know how else to explain it lol she then shares she's on her period.
I say "I can take a no - it's no big deal if you don't want to lol"
She laughs and says "noooo if I didn't want to I would just say". We carry on vibing and the night ends with her thanking me for getting Lebanese food as she never tried it before but liked it.
The next day I send a warm nice to see you voice note and then get another date in the diary. She comes over again a few days later and brings pudding as she's thankful I got food last time (super sweet girl) this time we go the full distance with no LMR whatsoever.
Been seeing her about 1x a week ever since and it's all going well - only concern I have is I think she wants a boyfriend and with my current rotation I'm not in that mental one girl headspace. I'll likely have to let her go in a month or so as it won't be fair on her to drag it out but it is what it is.
It's important to distinguish the reason why I "persisted" with this girl was that she was always warm and engaged. No erratic texting patterns, flakiness or unwillingness to get time in the diary. Which are all big red flags.
When I made a move she would let me and wouldn't pull back - I could tell I just had to move at her pace which was slower than my usual.
More of a gut feeling and hard to decipher until you've encountered loads of time-wasters... Which everyone does on their journey lol
Onwards and Upwards
-DWW
Don't want my reports to be a purely validation ego stroking exercise but break down of what has worked for me so others can benefit from it. I'll also have my fair share of situations that don't go my way and it will be interesting to get 3rd party perspectives on what I could have done better.
Without a further I was on my way to the gym and spot a gorgeous brunette, wearing double denim and black trainers with the low cut socks revealing bronze tanned ankles sitting down on the bus stop.
Initially I walk past her/behind the bus stop and nearly talk myself out of approaching her because I felt awkward but thought fuck it - what is there to lose?
I walk around the bus stop so that I approach her from the side/front and not abruptly come to her view from behind.
The first thing I say is just what came to my mind which was
me: "I like your outfit, it looks cool... sorry if that's a weird thing to say... that was it" (literally stumbling over myself lol mad rusty here)
her: "thanks"
me: I can leave you to it if you'd like ( I then have a warm smile and almost half-turn away, to show I'm socially aware and won't impose myself on her)
her: "no it's cool" ( it was her second reply that made me pick up on her accent right away - Italian one of my dam favorites
me: Ahhh you're Italian - which one north or south?
her: South
me: Ooooh you're the crazy ones ( said with a mischevious smile and a feinted uncomfortable shrug like that's not really a good thing)
her: nooo - we're the best actually ahah
We then chit chat about how long she's lived in London, I cold read that she works in marketing but she works in a nail salon. Been here for 3 years and lives literally 3 tube stops from myself (perfect) I think. Talk to her about Italy and how I'm going there in a few weeks but loved the food in Venice when I went last year.
Gracefully bow out as I'm mindful she's waiting for her bus so I ask for the number and say when she tends to be free. This was after checking that she didn't have a boyfriend. I call the number so she has mine then we leave it there.
As I walk to the gym her bus drives past mine and she's sat on the top and she looks down, smiles and waves. With that reaction I had a gut feeling it was fucking on.
2-3 hours later after gym/shower I send her a voice note. For those people who have a decent voice or want to stand out, this is my go to opening message. It's really low effort, prevents paragraphs but you can say a lot at once and tends to be positively received. Don't think many guys do it and I shouldn't give trade secrets out but fuck it - this site is niche enough as it is and has helped me a ton lol.
1st of many curveballs: I'm actually going to for a few days but maybe next week?
My online background would see this as a gentle rejection that won't happen but she's warm and gives time(s) when she's free so I propose a time and she bites.
1st Date 6 days later > Go through 2 bars in a space of 2 hours. Really just focus on getting her to open up to me - that's all my "game" really is these days. She tells me about her boyfriend of 6 years who had another girl the whole time, hints about losing one of her parents but doesn't share the whole thing. We laugh about the realities of living in our city in terms of price, how tiny rooms are but also how lovely our area is.
I also invite her home between the 2 bars but she declines... No big deal.
2nd date and 2nd Curveball > There's a delay of another 10 days for this date to happen as I go to Rome. Texting is purely logistical and "hope you have a good trip" in nature between the 1st and 2nd meet. I do this on purpose as it sets the precedent early. If you hardly text from the start - she won't find it weird when you continue to be that way. Anyway 2nd date is meet outside the tube station near my place then head to mine for deliveroo/food.
We get lebanese, I show her the communal pool and try to kiss her (she rejects me) I have a playful laugh of "Do you just not like me" and she says "I'm just not ready yet" I shrug and we have our food.
I let her play music on my speakers in our room and we just vibe and talk on my bed. She tells me about how family is close to her, how much she likes meat and couldn't be a vegan as well as letting me know the full story of how her dad passed away. We eat food and I try kiss her again to which she dodges it again
"Ugh I can't get anything from you today haha"
What's funny is that I just kept the whole playful no big deal energy while just focusing on her, so that she feels comfortable and just enjoys the moment. What actually ended up happening is after all my failed advances she grabs my head and kisses me whilst I'm mid-sentence lol.
Things soon get hot and heavy with kissing, grinding and feeling etc. I can only describe her as almost volatile in terms of how much passion and wriggling she physically did. Don't know how else to explain it lol she then shares she's on her period.
I say "I can take a no - it's no big deal if you don't want to lol"
She laughs and says "noooo if I didn't want to I would just say". We carry on vibing and the night ends with her thanking me for getting Lebanese food as she never tried it before but liked it.
The next day I send a warm nice to see you voice note and then get another date in the diary. She comes over again a few days later and brings pudding as she's thankful I got food last time (super sweet girl) this time we go the full distance with no LMR whatsoever.
Been seeing her about 1x a week ever since and it's all going well - only concern I have is I think she wants a boyfriend and with my current rotation I'm not in that mental one girl headspace. I'll likely have to let her go in a month or so as it won't be fair on her to drag it out but it is what it is.
It's important to distinguish the reason why I "persisted" with this girl was that she was always warm and engaged. No erratic texting patterns, flakiness or unwillingness to get time in the diary. Which are all big red flags.
When I made a move she would let me and wouldn't pull back - I could tell I just had to move at her pace which was slower than my usual.
More of a gut feeling and hard to decipher until you've encountered loads of time-wasters... Which everyone does on their journey lol
Onwards and Upwards
-DWW
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