Hey pals,
I'm currently travelling East and South East Asia at the moment. I was recently in Beijing and I've been chatting up cute girls on an app called Tantan. It's similar to Tinder. I matched with this cute looking girl and we set up a date on Thursday night. Earlier that day I had a date with another girl who was just so inexperienced and terrified - a complete blow out. We didn't vibe at all and I wasn't too worked up about letting her go. It did however make me very motivated about making this date work. My latest sticking point was being able to land a kiss, so my objectives were very clear prior to the date with Cynthia - pulling her into kiss her, and not being afraid to be a 'jester' - embracing the idea of "I don't know what's going to happen, but I definitely want to find out." For those who haven't yet, definitely check out Chase's article on ambiguous value. The whole article resonated within me completely.
- https://www.girlschase.com/content/picku ... uous-value
Anyway, I met up with 24 year old Cynthia at 8.15pm. She was 15 minutes late. She definitely looked significantly more attractive in her photos. Her skin was not smooth and was carrying on a little extra weight. Still I didn't mind, and I am attracted to curvy and thick girls. Still, my initial reaction was, 'ugh I feel cheated. She was much cuter in her pictures. I don't know if I want to sleep with her.' But I played along in any case. And I still thought she was cute in a strange way. All girls are cute.
We walked from the Qianmen subway to one of the streets with a lot of restaurants lined up. We exchanged light conversation and I told her about the reason for my piss poor Chinese ability. I told her that when I was growing up, my parents didn't teach me proper Chinese; therefore I spoke fluent Chinglish. We eventually found a nice restaurant. We went inside and she ran her fingers through my chin-length hair, telling me how cute my hair was. We sat down and ordered. At this point, I wasn't even focussed on sleeping with her or even anything, so I just spoke to her as I would to a friend. She was quite the talkative type, and we had to swing back between English and Chinese so that we could communicate properly, since her English ability was limited. Her spoken Chinese accent was perfect general Chinese and she later revealed that she used to host a radio show. I deep dived her about her career, and travels. To be honest I don't remember too much about the conversation. I was far less worried about the technical aspect of game, (because I wasn't trying to sleep with her) so I just let my conversation flow. Interestingly, she said that she liked Chinese dramas, because of the hot male actors. When I asked her to clarify, she told me that she liked to look at handsome men, but didn't want to date them. I thought that that was amusing. I also found it amusing that she said that she was so fat, and she asked me in Chinese whether I liked fat girls. I said I liked curvy girls. She seemed happy to hear that. Cynthia also did teach me a lot of Chinese phrases. Eventually we decided to pack things up and leave. She ended up paying for the 175CNY bill. When I offered to pay half, but she said that it was okay, and she was happy to. At that point, I was very flattered, as I can't remember the last girl who paid for my meal. We walked outside and I held onto her arm thanking her once again. I linked my hand onto her hands, fingers interlocked.
I continued to hold her hand and went to find a place for coffee. Since the Qianmen subway area is so unbelievably complicated to navigate and cross the road, it was a struggle to find the Starbucks which was nearby. At one point I stopped to tell her something (I can't remember what) and came really close to her face. I felt an escalation windows to kiss her then and there but I didn't. I seamlessly pulled back and led her to continue walking with me. We continued to walk, and I told her that I thought her spoken English was cute. At one point walking she gave me a compliment, something along the lines of saying that I was handsome. I stopped her then and there and gave her a kiss. 2 liplocks, and I pulled back, changing the subject to something light and unrelated. Eventually after 5 minutes of trying to find Starbucks, we gave up. It was freezing and around 10.30pm so I decided to pull.
We continued to walk and sat down. We chatted some more but she was so shy about kissing me, and seemed to look almost uncomfortable the first few times I did it. After a couple of times she got really into. The environment we were in really set a terrible mood though. At one point a guy was pissing in the bushes near us, and there was a couple fighting loudly near us. It was also cold and drenching wet due to the rain from earlier today. The screaming in the background was so distracting, but the kissing was still sensual.
She said that she liked me because my kissing was very gentle and soft. After landing a passionate pash, with sweet eyes and a smile, she looked at me and let out an almost frustrated sigh.
At that point I asked her when the last bus was, and said she'd have to take a cab home. I was so tired and didn't mind just going back to my hostel to sleep. But I decided to push forwards anyway. We cuddled for a little bit.
I made sure to be very playful with my objection handling and I took her handed and she led me to the road and ordered a taxi through her phone. She insisted on telling me that I had to be super quiet and not let her house mates know that I'm there. She also said I had to wait 5 minutes outside before coming in because her room was so messy. A multiple instances she said "oh my god, I can't believe you're coming home with me." I tried my best to keep her logical mind from kicking in, and changed the subject. On the taxi ride back, she asked when I was leaving for Beijing. I told her that I was going in 2 days. She seemed sad and told me that she wanted me to stay for longer.
Eventually we arrived at her place and I waited outside her place for around 10 minutes. I was experiencing a pretty crippling stomach ache, and I was frustrated about the terrible timing. Thankfully it got better quickly. She led me inside and I sat down on her bed. She went to remove her makeup. While she was doing so, I read Hector's excellent article on LMR which I found to be useful.
- https://www.girlschase.com/content/shatt ... on-passion
She seemed to be a little reserved and sceptical about me being her bed, and didn't seem to be very much into kissing me. It didn't seem like resistance per se, but she didn't seem to enjoy it my escalation. We ended watching some Chinese TV show on her laptop, but I didn't understand it so I told her I'd give her a massage instead. She seemed really hesitant but I managed to get her to lie on her stomach. I massaged her back, pulling up her dress, to reveal her panties. I slowly moved my hands down to her thighs and kissed them. As I moved closer and closer to her pussy, she recoiled and didn't seem to like it. I ended up just giving up and went to cuddle her instead. We cuddled and made out some. From Hector's article I read that during LMR, girls never seemed to care if you whipped out your dick. So while things got hot and heavy, I guided her hand onto my hard dick and moaned loudly. She clearly liked it and proceeded to rub me. Eventually I pulled out my dick from my underwear and she exclaimed "Oh my God! It's so big! Are you even Asian?" She proceeded to jack me off, and I licked her nipples. "I wish I didn't have my period..." She sighed. It suddenly became clear why she didn't want me to continue the massage before. In the past I've had sex on period many times before that it no longer phased me. In fact in a strange way, it turned me on. I teased her with dirty talk asking her how amazing it would feel with my cock inside her pussy. I said this as I rub my dick against her thighs and gently prodded her panties. Still no dice. She then proceeded to jack me off until I came.
The post-sex talk afterwards was definitely interesting. She told me that her ex-boyfriend of 8 years said that all Asian guys had small penises, so she was extremely shocked when she saw mine. She thought that all Asian men had tiny dicks. She felt cheated that he lied to her... like visibly upset. We ended up sleeping at around 2.30am. We got up the next day around 7.30am for more sexy times.
All in all, I think I did pretty well with Cynthia.
The pros:
- I managed to handle objections and playfully persisted during the pull.
- I managed to disarm her logical mind reinforce postive emotions by being playful about her reservations from the pull.
- I managed to pull off being bold and placing her hand directly on my dick after LMR when she stopped the massage.
- The kiss seemed to happen spontaneously and didn't seem premeditated (something I had struggled with immensely in the past)
- My transition with hand holding seemed to worked quite smoothly and removed the touch tension barrier. (I know Chase critiques this, but it's something I'm experimenting with, and it's generated me good results)
- I rewarded her investment well. I.e. when she paid for dinner or complimented me.
What I could've done differently:
- I could've used more chase framing.
- I could've rewarded her qualifications more.
- I could've generated more compliance .
Thanks for reading guys!
Jeffrey
I'm currently travelling East and South East Asia at the moment. I was recently in Beijing and I've been chatting up cute girls on an app called Tantan. It's similar to Tinder. I matched with this cute looking girl and we set up a date on Thursday night. Earlier that day I had a date with another girl who was just so inexperienced and terrified - a complete blow out. We didn't vibe at all and I wasn't too worked up about letting her go. It did however make me very motivated about making this date work. My latest sticking point was being able to land a kiss, so my objectives were very clear prior to the date with Cynthia - pulling her into kiss her, and not being afraid to be a 'jester' - embracing the idea of "I don't know what's going to happen, but I definitely want to find out." For those who haven't yet, definitely check out Chase's article on ambiguous value. The whole article resonated within me completely.
- https://www.girlschase.com/content/picku ... uous-value
Anyway, I met up with 24 year old Cynthia at 8.15pm. She was 15 minutes late. She definitely looked significantly more attractive in her photos. Her skin was not smooth and was carrying on a little extra weight. Still I didn't mind, and I am attracted to curvy and thick girls. Still, my initial reaction was, 'ugh I feel cheated. She was much cuter in her pictures. I don't know if I want to sleep with her.' But I played along in any case. And I still thought she was cute in a strange way. All girls are cute.
We walked from the Qianmen subway to one of the streets with a lot of restaurants lined up. We exchanged light conversation and I told her about the reason for my piss poor Chinese ability. I told her that when I was growing up, my parents didn't teach me proper Chinese; therefore I spoke fluent Chinglish. We eventually found a nice restaurant. We went inside and she ran her fingers through my chin-length hair, telling me how cute my hair was. We sat down and ordered. At this point, I wasn't even focussed on sleeping with her or even anything, so I just spoke to her as I would to a friend. She was quite the talkative type, and we had to swing back between English and Chinese so that we could communicate properly, since her English ability was limited. Her spoken Chinese accent was perfect general Chinese and she later revealed that she used to host a radio show. I deep dived her about her career, and travels. To be honest I don't remember too much about the conversation. I was far less worried about the technical aspect of game, (because I wasn't trying to sleep with her) so I just let my conversation flow. Interestingly, she said that she liked Chinese dramas, because of the hot male actors. When I asked her to clarify, she told me that she liked to look at handsome men, but didn't want to date them. I thought that that was amusing. I also found it amusing that she said that she was so fat, and she asked me in Chinese whether I liked fat girls. I said I liked curvy girls. She seemed happy to hear that. Cynthia also did teach me a lot of Chinese phrases. Eventually we decided to pack things up and leave. She ended up paying for the 175CNY bill. When I offered to pay half, but she said that it was okay, and she was happy to. At that point, I was very flattered, as I can't remember the last girl who paid for my meal. We walked outside and I held onto her arm thanking her once again. I linked my hand onto her hands, fingers interlocked.
Her: Oh wow!
Me: What?
Her: Oh. I'm just shy, you're holding my hand.
I continued to hold her hand and went to find a place for coffee. Since the Qianmen subway area is so unbelievably complicated to navigate and cross the road, it was a struggle to find the Starbucks which was nearby. At one point I stopped to tell her something (I can't remember what) and came really close to her face. I felt an escalation windows to kiss her then and there but I didn't. I seamlessly pulled back and led her to continue walking with me. We continued to walk, and I told her that I thought her spoken English was cute. At one point walking she gave me a compliment, something along the lines of saying that I was handsome. I stopped her then and there and gave her a kiss. 2 liplocks, and I pulled back, changing the subject to something light and unrelated. Eventually after 5 minutes of trying to find Starbucks, we gave up. It was freezing and around 10.30pm so I decided to pull.
Me: I kind of want to watch a Chinese movie, do you have any good Chinese movies at your place?
Her: Yes, a couple.
Me: What say we go back to your place and watch one now?
Her: No, I have to wake up early for work tomorrow.
We continued to walk and sat down. We chatted some more but she was so shy about kissing me, and seemed to look almost uncomfortable the first few times I did it. After a couple of times she got really into. The environment we were in really set a terrible mood though. At one point a guy was pissing in the bushes near us, and there was a couple fighting loudly near us. It was also cold and drenching wet due to the rain from earlier today. The screaming in the background was so distracting, but the kissing was still sensual.
She said that she liked me because my kissing was very gentle and soft. After landing a passionate pash, with sweet eyes and a smile, she looked at me and let out an almost frustrated sigh.
Her: Ugh!
Me: What?
Her: You're so pretty! You're like a cat!
Me: What do you mean?
Her: Your face is so beautiful and perfect. Ugh.
Me: Huh!
At that point I asked her when the last bus was, and said she'd have to take a cab home. I was so tired and didn't mind just going back to my hostel to sleep. But I decided to push forwards anyway. We cuddled for a little bit.
Me: Oh... I like to cuddle you.
Her: Me too.
Me: I want to continue cuddling you tonight. Let's go back to your place and cuddle some more.
Her: No! My room is so messy!
Me: That's okay! I'll be really surprised if your room is messier than mine, haha.
Her: No! It's so disgusting!
Me: Sweetie, just as long as there's no rats or mould, I think it'll be fine.
[I also made up a story about how my last housemate was messy and that she washed her dishes about 3 times the whole time we lived together.]
Her: But my housemates are home!
Me: That's okay! We'll be super quiet, they won't hear a thing.
Her: Oh, I don't know.
Me: (excited and cutely, almost like a little kid) Come on! Come on! It'll be fun!
Her: Oh okay, fine!
I made sure to be very playful with my objection handling and I took her handed and she led me to the road and ordered a taxi through her phone. She insisted on telling me that I had to be super quiet and not let her house mates know that I'm there. She also said I had to wait 5 minutes outside before coming in because her room was so messy. A multiple instances she said "oh my god, I can't believe you're coming home with me." I tried my best to keep her logical mind from kicking in, and changed the subject. On the taxi ride back, she asked when I was leaving for Beijing. I told her that I was going in 2 days. She seemed sad and told me that she wanted me to stay for longer.
Eventually we arrived at her place and I waited outside her place for around 10 minutes. I was experiencing a pretty crippling stomach ache, and I was frustrated about the terrible timing. Thankfully it got better quickly. She led me inside and I sat down on her bed. She went to remove her makeup. While she was doing so, I read Hector's excellent article on LMR which I found to be useful.
- https://www.girlschase.com/content/shatt ... on-passion
She seemed to be a little reserved and sceptical about me being her bed, and didn't seem to be very much into kissing me. It didn't seem like resistance per se, but she didn't seem to enjoy it my escalation. We ended watching some Chinese TV show on her laptop, but I didn't understand it so I told her I'd give her a massage instead. She seemed really hesitant but I managed to get her to lie on her stomach. I massaged her back, pulling up her dress, to reveal her panties. I slowly moved my hands down to her thighs and kissed them. As I moved closer and closer to her pussy, she recoiled and didn't seem to like it. I ended up just giving up and went to cuddle her instead. We cuddled and made out some. From Hector's article I read that during LMR, girls never seemed to care if you whipped out your dick. So while things got hot and heavy, I guided her hand onto my hard dick and moaned loudly. She clearly liked it and proceeded to rub me. Eventually I pulled out my dick from my underwear and she exclaimed "Oh my God! It's so big! Are you even Asian?" She proceeded to jack me off, and I licked her nipples. "I wish I didn't have my period..." She sighed. It suddenly became clear why she didn't want me to continue the massage before. In the past I've had sex on period many times before that it no longer phased me. In fact in a strange way, it turned me on. I teased her with dirty talk asking her how amazing it would feel with my cock inside her pussy. I said this as I rub my dick against her thighs and gently prodded her panties. Still no dice. She then proceeded to jack me off until I came.
The post-sex talk afterwards was definitely interesting. She told me that her ex-boyfriend of 8 years said that all Asian guys had small penises, so she was extremely shocked when she saw mine. She thought that all Asian men had tiny dicks. She felt cheated that he lied to her... like visibly upset. We ended up sleeping at around 2.30am. We got up the next day around 7.30am for more sexy times.
All in all, I think I did pretty well with Cynthia.
The pros:
- I managed to handle objections and playfully persisted during the pull.
- I managed to disarm her logical mind reinforce postive emotions by being playful about her reservations from the pull.
- I managed to pull off being bold and placing her hand directly on my dick after LMR when she stopped the massage.
- The kiss seemed to happen spontaneously and didn't seem premeditated (something I had struggled with immensely in the past)
- My transition with hand holding seemed to worked quite smoothly and removed the touch tension barrier. (I know Chase critiques this, but it's something I'm experimenting with, and it's generated me good results)
- I rewarded her investment well. I.e. when she paid for dinner or complimented me.
What I could've done differently:
- I could've used more chase framing.
- I could've rewarded her qualifications more.
- I could've generated more compliance .
Thanks for reading guys!
Jeffrey