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Cluster B's are often sighted as girls to avoid and simply bad news...

For the sake of good conversation though, I've found them to be exciting, fun and wait for it... Low drama (there is a caveat though)

Now I've had about x2 definite Cluster B girls in my time (one is an existing FB) and x1 that was a maybe in the past and all of them gave me an experience that made regular girls seem just meh/bland in comparison.

I'm also very fortunate that unlike many guys, 65% of red pill or Jhonny depp I never had a bad experience from it and came out unscathed *shrugs*

Think it's because for whatever reason I always had an intuition that you can never love these girls.. Just enjoy them for who they're.

I'm also deep down a nice guy who came into seduction as the person who was often friendzoned, so maybe I simply learnt to have hard rules.

Why do I like these girls?

  • Sex is phenomenal Probably the closest thing to living out what you see on porn. Not that I'd recommend that, personally haven't watched porn in 4 years+

They try really really hard to lock you down. The charm offensive is crazy. These girls have:

-fixed my clothes
-bought me cologne
-bought tons of sushi for me on a random weekday
-asked where they ranked sexually out of everyone I've slept with than tried extra hard, won't let me go a session without finishing twice at least
-literally let me do anything to them
-cook breakfast and be ultra submissive (if they think it's what you want)
-dress like a runway model just to come over your place and fuck you on a Tuesday evening

During this time there'll be no drama and they'll be amazing to you.

These girls also have a knack for male psychology and can stroke your ego in ways "normal" girls just can't sadly...

Now I'll be honest and admit you could get a regular girl to do that after a little time but these girls hook hard quickly, usually as part of their love bombing strategy

Why these girls are bad news...

At the same time these girls will also have mental health issues, far more likely to be sexually assaulted or worse, and in general suck you into their lives of chaos if you let them. One of these cluster B girls I dated got a sugar daddy, became an escort then got married in the space of 6 months while seeing me...

She then had the cheek to say she was fed up of me because I wouldn't be her boyfriend lol. Anyway this leads to my final point

How do you deal with these girls?


Keep them as fuck buddies. Nothing more. Enjoy their company, enjoy the sex, enjoy the experience and remain a lover as I've noticed they tend to get a high of talking about guys they've made fall in love with them before they quickly got bored... It's part of the reason they like you so much if you don't fall for the trap.

Please make sure you're seeing other girls, otherwise good chance you'll backward rationalize them. If you aren't, you're better of letting them go.

Stay unpredictable. Shout out to Tominho and Topcat who've given me advice on this. Basically be give them a wide range of emotions. Sometimes ghost them, sometimes be cold, sometimes act like a boyfriend, sometimes disappear, sometimes be stable and nice for a few weeks.

They love the challenge.

I'm not naturally an erratic person (which is why I think, they think they can lock me down) but fortunately I'm very mission focused which keeps me on track.

That's another thing - have a rule that once they disturb your peace/give you drama you'll walk away.

Harder said than done, would be lying if I said I've always had 100% composure but you have to always be willing to walk away when:

1. They push for exclusivity
2. The drama begins to reach you (it's a matter of when not if)

For one of my FB's it was when she wanted me to go to police custody and give a witness statement for a situation she was involved in. I cut her out without thinking twice... Funnily enough she popped up 2 years later but that's a story for another time


How do you spot these girls?

Plenty of red flag articles but for me it's been very simple.

They tell you about their deep problems very quickly.

When people have *actual* issues, you usually have to dig in a tactful, persistent & non-judgmental way to get it out of them. Problem girls tend to spill out.

All Cluster B girls have told me by date 1: They've been sexually assaulted, abused, depressed, mental health issues blah blah blah. They'll then tell you all the wonderful things about them like how they treated an ex who still cheat on them etc.

It's a trap and classic damsel in distress. Where it plays on most guys natural instinct to provide/protect... Don't fall for it she doesn't want to be saved.


What about you? What's your opinion... Cluster B's... Yay or Nay?
 
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i love cluster Bs.

the whole cluster is made up of 4 different disorders:

- borderline
- histrionic
- narcissistic
- antisocial

all have faced abuse as a child, with specific patterns of emotional, physical and/or sexual abuse causing their disorder. they are stuck in arrested development as a result.

most of the cluster bs ive met were borderline. i also met a histrionic once. there are alot more men narcs than women narcs but women narcs do exist, as far as i know i havent met any. and as for antisocial, i never did any research on them

my experience with borderlines has been positive....as you mention its always great sex but they should be avoided for relationships. i didnt really like the histrionic i met. she was exceedingly surface level [expected] and i couldnt get underneath which kinda irritated me as i like connection. she became very very strange to maintain my attention later on as we got closer to sex...

one of the things to note about these girls is that they will re-enact their patterns of childhood abuse with you. for example the histrionic girl i met had a history of sexual abuse and neglect with her dad. somehow she engineered things to get "paternal" attention from me. she had me acting like a dad around her and i didnt act that way consciously nor did i know i could act like that.

these girls go through a ton of short term relationships, so they often have some great tactics as you mentioned. a long time ago i had the best sex of my life with a borderline and as she was leaving she said "ive never gotten as comfortable with anyone as i have with you." at the time i didnt realize it was bullshit and it really yanked on my heartstrings. now in between rounds i use this line with girls and they fucking melt.
 
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PaulieFlyn10

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Cluster B's are often sighted as girls to avoid and simply bad news...

For the sake of good conversation though, I've found them to be exciting, fun and wait for it... Low drama (there is a caveat though)

Now I've had about x2 definite Cluster B girls in my time (one is an existing FB) and x1 that was a maybe in the past and all of them gave me an experience that made regular girls seem just meh/bland in comparison.

I'm also very fortunate that unlike many guys, 65% of red pill or Jhonny depp I never had a bad experience from it and came out unscathed *shrugs*

Think it's because for whatever reason I always had an intuition that you can never love these girls.. Just enjoy them for who they're.

I'm also deep down a nice guy who came into seduction as the person who was often friendzoned, so maybe I simply learnt to have hard rules.

Why do I like these girls?

  • Sex is phenomenal Probably the closest thing to living out what you see on porn. Not that I'd recommend that, personally haven't watched porn in 4 years+

They try really really hard to lock you down. The charm offensive is crazy. These girls have:

-fixed my clothes
-bought me cologne
-bought tons of sushi for me on a random weekday
-asked where they ranked sexually out of everyone I've slept with than tried extra hard, won't let me go a session without finishing twice at least
-literally let me do anything to them
-cook breakfast and be ultra submissive (if they think it's what you want)
-dress like a runway model just to come over your place and fuck you on a Tuesday evening

During this time there'll be no drama and they'll be amazing to you.

These girls also have a knack for male psychology and can stroke your ego in ways "normal" girls just can't sadly...

Now I'll be honest and admit you could get a regular girl to do that after a little time but these girls hook hard quickly, usually as part of their love bombing strategy

Why these girls are bad news...

At the same time these girls will also have mental health issues, far more likely to be sexually assaulted or worse, and in general suck you into their lives of chaos if you let them. One of these cluster B girls I dated got a sugar daddy, became an escort then got married in the space of 6 months while seeing me...

She then had the cheek to say she was fed up of me because I wouldn't be her boyfriend lol. Anyway this leads to my final point

How do you deal with these girls?

Keep them as fuck buddies. Nothing more. Enjoy their company, enjoy the sex, enjoy the experience and remain a lover as I've noticed they tend to get a high of talking about guys they've made fall in love with them before they quickly got bored... It's part of the reason they like you so much if you don't fall for the trap.

Please make sure you're seeing other girls, otherwise good chance you'll backward rationalize them. If you aren't, you're better of letting them go.

Stay unpredictable. Shout out to Tominho and Topcat who've given me advice on this. Basically be give them a wide range of emotions. Sometimes ghost them, sometimes be cold, sometimes act like a boyfriend, sometimes disappear, sometimes be stable and nice for a few weeks.

They love the challenge.

I'm not naturally an erratic person (which is why I think, they think they can lock me down) but fortunately I'm very mission focused which keeps me on track.

That's another thing - have a rule that once they disturb your peace/give you drama you'll walk away.

Harder said than done, would be lying if I said I've always had 100% composure but you have to always be willing to walk away when:

1. They push for exclusivity
2. The drama begins to reach you (it's a matter of when not if)

For one of my FB's it was when she wanted me to go to police custody and give a witness statement for a situation she was involved in. I cut her out without thinking twice... Funnily enough she popped up 2 years later but that's a story for another time


How do you spot these girls?

Plenty of red flag articles but for me it's been very simple.

They tell you about their deep problems very quickly.

When people have *actual* issues, you usually have to dig in a tactful, persistent & non-judgmental way to get it out of them. Problem girls tend to spill out.

All Cluster B girls have told me by date 1: They've been sexually assaulted, abused, depressed, mental health issues blah blah blah. They'll then tell you all the wonderful things about them like how they treated an ex who still cheat on them etc.

It's a trap and classic damsel in distress. Where it plays on most guys natural instinct to provide/protect... Don't fall for it she doesn't want to be saved.


What about you? What's your opinion... Cluster B's... Yay or Nay?
I'm guessing one cluster B girl will be down for a threesome with another cluster B girl easily right?
 

DoWhatWorks

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long time ago i had the best sex of my life with a borderline and as she was leaving she said "ive never gotten as comfortable with anyone as i have with you." at the time i didnt realize it was bullshit and it really yanked on my heartstrings. now in between rounds i use this line with girls and they fucking melt

Part of a group chat where I call cluster B behaviour on guys “Cluster G” hahah

This is classic Cluster G but you raise a good point. You can pick up great game by osmosis

@PaulieFlyn10 they tend to be more sexually open so yes by default more open to 3somes too

Never done it despite being tempted, prefer to keep girls separate. Depending on the phase of the girl they may also be trying to lock you down to themselves
 
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