Calls & Texts Cockblocked by her mum

[Nicko]

Hello guys!

I need help with understanding what she means on text and how to proceed. She switched up from wanting to fuck me to 'friends'.

I was texting HBlynx to get logistics completely down then her mum is objected to let her go out with me and proceeded to cockblocked me( i got blue balled xD). She wanted to really go but now she wants to be 'friends'. Here is the exact convo from the beginning to now.

Sunday 20.12.20
ice breaker: hey! HBlynx it was nice meeting you [7:10pm]
HBlynx : ''hey [me]! Sorry I was kinda awkward meeting you but you were really nice so thanks lol .Anyways HIIII'' [7:10pm]
Me: '' dw about it , when are u free " [7:49pm]
HBlynx: Yeah sure Sorry about the late reply lol i literally got just got home, where tho? [10:10pm]
*i went to slept and didn't respond*
Monday 21.12.20
me: ''what suburb u in'' [7:10 am]
HBlynx: [place] but it's fine im used to travelling far [8:54 am]
me: x? where is that and whats it like.I can tell u love travelling( im stalling i haven't figured the logistics) [10:29am]
HBlynx: its like X place kind of thing, it's futher than [a train line] anyway/ It's like a country town and I like having the space and its a whole vive tbh
HBlynx: oh wait do you have insta? Maybe we can chat from there. [10:29 am]
me: i don't give girls my ig who i only met once,remind me again when we meet up [1:26pm]
HBlynx: Lmao okay yessirrrr [3:14pm]
HBlynx: Kinda smooth ngl [3:14pm]
me: Hey HBlynx! lets meet at x station at 12pm(eat before hand) on the 23th [11:30 am]
HBlynx: Ooo okay I'll ask my Mum later cause she's in a bit of a bad mood rn lol [12:27 pm]
Me: u made her made didn't u *laughing emoji* [12:50 pm]
Hbylnx: lol.no I just asked her nr and she's a bit skeptical as to why we're meeting at x station and not a mall where there's a lot of people. Plus she's a bit reluctant cause we don't even know each other that well [1:19 pm
Me: Tell her we are going to [x suburb of the station] to eat dessert and go to the library since we have 'good chemistry' with books
Hblynx: Lmao maybe *thinking emoji* [4:13 pm]
Me: Msg me when u free to call. its easier to explain on call [6:11 pm]
side note*: i wanted to call to change logistics and talk to her mum with her about objection and i to planned to tell her to bring her bffs(gir) with us to make her mum more comfortable.
Hblynx: Omg HI SORRY i didn't wanto to use mu phone that much today so i literally just turned it off for a good 4-5 hours. Anyway, I don't think my mum is letting me go tomorrow *sad emoji face* Sorry again : (((((( [9:57 pm]
Hblynx: Anyways, I got to be honest with you. I did a bit of thinking earlier and I realsied that i kind of just accepted your wish of giving you my number as to not dissapoint you? Let me explain lol.I know we literally haven't properly talked but i've realised that i did not think about what i wanted during tjhat time and just have you my number. Now, I realised why mum might be reluctant to let me meet you cause we barely know each other.That being said, you seemd like really nice and fun to be around so i was willing to give you the chance but now I realised i might not be ready for anything??? LIKE I said, we're probably just friends and I'm probably most definitely overthinking this but just don't want to lead you on thinking that we might be something different. Like i really want to be frinds with uou cause you seem really freaking nice so yeahhh sorry this really long LMAOAOAOA [10:03 pm]

my observation and opionion: i haven't responded to her message just yet . i genuinely believe that theres a silver lining in her messege since it doesn't add up and girls typically add silver linings in her text for her reputation sake and what not plus judging from the first interaction we had. My opinion and her being friends is just a ploy ( notice 'probably friends' while clearly she wanted to get together from the beginning with her sexual availability and attraction was high/green light and her saying not leading me on is to remove any guilt and responsibility if we don't manage to hook up/when we get together

Here is the approach and interaction i had with her copied from my journal( lol )

HBlynx(set 6): sharp diamond shape face with asian asthetics , black top, gray kelvin klein sweatpants( juicy plum ass ), long black hair styled in some form of braid leaving 2 long strands hanging from the front and back is just normal( maybe a half top) , a bit of a gap between her top and her leggings revealed her sexy flat stomach, 167cm.
context convo upon first meeting each other: she was sitting down with her lil bro and i waited until showed attraction then i approached. She wasn't attracted or i couldn't see her sneaky glances and waited for pre-selection and attraction to work for me from the waking sets that were in front of us. I waited by the rails and us peripheral vision to check on her time to time. Then she did.
* pre open with a wave * her reponse neutral
me: hey that's a cute boyfriend( she was with her lil bro 5 ish old)
her: uhhh thanks *looks at me a bit aloof/awkward look*
me: im Nicko *extends handshake*
her: *shakes hand awkwardly*uhhhh (still awkward look)
me: i don't remember uhhhh a name( with a warmer tone)
her: you tell me(frame Shit test)
me: you first (passed shit test. attraction went up alot + she looked down )
her: im x.
me: it wasn't that hard was it s ?
her: mmhhh? she put her hand in her ear to hear better
me: are you deaf *laughs* ( that was uncalibrated )
her: i just didn't hear you * she put her bag on her body as a sign of discomfort but doesn't mean she doesn't have attraction for me*
me: im just joking ( i saw her lil bro looking at me kinda awkwardly so_
*towards lil bro*
me: *smile* hii im x ur name is *extended hand for handshake*
lil bro: *says his name and shakes my hand without hesitation* (that actually warmed my heart, lil bro u rock!!)
me: *laughs* i like him already * i face towards HBlynx*
her: *giggles*
me: anyway i thought u were cute and whats ur number?
her: uhhh what.....( attraction is still there she is just genuinely confused)
me: is this your first time *laughs*??
her: idk what is going on *smiles*
me: how many guys have done this?
her: nooo, no one has ever don this ?
me: are u sure?( tease)
her: welll... actually only a few
me: i like that fact u said no then oh well actually a few( tease)
her: *laughs* (ez rapport)
me: well anyway whats ur number?
her: well its xxx *grabs her phone from her bag*
me: actually here ill put in for u * pulls out my phone*
her: *hands me her phone*
me: *i pull out my phone cuz i actually don't remember my number at all no even kidding u, to type it into her phone and call *
me: i know its really dumb that how i cant even remember my number, now hold my phone.
her: *laughs*( keep em coming) *holds my phone and shows to her self lmao*
me: show the phone to me idiot
her: *giggles*
me: why were u awkward earlier ? are u shy?? *hands her phone back*
her: yeah im just shyy
me: shy girls are cute( to validate her so she doesn't become so awkward???) * i hand her phone back*
me: type ur name in my phone
her: *she does*
me: i like the fact where ur name is full cap in the contact info its like someone saying *HBYNX * out loud when ever u read the name
her: *laughs
me: how old are you?
her: im 16( wtf i thought she was older)
me: what im 14 * takes off my mask*
her: what really!! ur 14 *surprised Pikachu face*
me: well soon im 15 in a week, take guess when
her: is it x day
me: yepp
me: so what are u doing for christmas

ill end it there and long story short. i got her number and asked what is she doing for Christmas. but i cut it short halfway and make a joke about realising on the spot that asians don't celebrate christamas as much( for the most part lol) we just give red pockets money (envolope money) isntead and call it a day. She laughed which is good asked what she was doing later. she asked me 'now'? but i meant later and turns out she is free on the weekend i was going to leave but decided to sit down to quickly build more rapport. She awkwardly/shyly? complied and shuffled over teased her with the shuffle, laughes again .Asked why she out here, turns out she is shopping with her mum and asked what school for logistics before i could open more threads. her mum came out, said hi to her and let them go. Before she stood up( we were both sitting down) i asked when she is free and she sad 'everyday'(perfect), said my farewell to them and to her 'see you soon' with sexy quint eye contacts.

i can think of 3 ways of proceeding this and manage to get the lay.
1.Accept her bs 'friendzone' frame and build more rapport through call and get her out. im
confident with my fundementals and pre-selection should not toss me into the friendzone when we go out. I'll just have to reverse the freind frame and set sexual frame while calibrating to her responses then
2. Refuse the friend's frame and handle her mums objection by telling HBlynx to bring a trustworthy friend when we go on a date and get her approval of me so her mum can loosen up the idea of her going out with me. 1st date is to get approval and build rapport while keeping a bit of sexual frame. 2nd date. run procedure per usual
3. build rapport tthrough calls, get her friends out( run social circle game), build good rapport with all of them and fuck her bff or something like that
anyhow looking forward to ur guys Reponses

 

[ljrozz69]

I would reply with something like :
You're putting waay too much pressure on yourself for no reason girl, reeeelaaaaaax. =) Like you said, you'd like us to meet again and knowing each other a bit more as we do... So let's do it! Think a bit and tell me when you want to meet up (instead of telling me how much you'd like to have me around) =p

 

[ljrozz69]

From there you'll have to figure out how to meet by yourself probably.
Btw lol at the convo and your analysis. But nice having you here! =)

 

[Nicko]

From there you'll have to figure out how to meet by yourself probably.
Btw lol at the convo and your analysis. But nice having you here! =)

hahah thanks and for ur input! =) chief
i will msg her and see how it goes lol

 

[ljrozz69]

Np, keep us updated!

 

[Nicko]

Update:

Wednesday 23.12.20
me: You're putting waay too much pressure on yourself for no reason girl, reeeelaaax =) Like you said, you'd like us to meet again and knowing each other a bit more as we do... So let's do it! Think a bit and tell me when you want to meet up (instead of telling me how much you'd like to have me around) =P [11:38 am
me: im going city tdy, come by and say hi if ur going *wink emoji* [11:39 am]
HBlynx: Lmao I freaking wish but my parents are both going to work as well with my other sibling im literally the only one here taking care of x(lil bro) *sad face emoji* [11:48pm]
HBlynx: my other sibling are going with their friends lol [11:48 am]
Thursday 24.12.20
Me: we'll meet up soon enough IF im not busy, tell me when ur free and we'll chill [ 9:50 am]
HBlynx: Aight maybe next week hehe : )))) {1:35pm]
HBlynx: Or the following weeks i don't really mind [1:35pm]

ok we back in the game lol thanks @Klimax for the input , could you explain why that msg worked? thanks alot !!

 

[foggy]

hey nicko, i reviewed your set.

the one thing that stands out to me preceding that text from her is a lack of strong definition regarding what the relationship is between you two. in other words, you didnt verbally set the overall frame of the interaction between you and her. are you going to be friends, lovers, boyfriend/girlfriend etc.

sometimes this framing can come out through your fundamentals and general way of being. and can be interpreted by the girl. she might look at you and be like, hes definitely boyfriend material....or hes cute but only good for a ONS.

but, i think given her age, possible lack of experience with guys, and influence from her mom, she's more confused than anything about the frame and is not really sure how this is supposed to go.

since you didn't provide any strong definitions, she had taken it upon herself to start setting the frame of the relationship with you. girls will do this themselves sometimes, and once it happens, its up to you to lead the way and settle on the definition with her.

 

[Nicko]

hey nicko, i reviewed your set.

the one thing that stands out to me preceding that text from her is a lack of strong definition regarding what the relationship is between you two. in other words, you didnt verbally set the overall frame of the interaction between you and her. are you going to be friends, lovers, boyfriend/girlfriend etc.

sometimes this framing can come out through your fundamentals and general way of being. and can be interpreted by the girl. she might look at you and be like, hes definitely boyfriend material....or hes cute but only good for a ONS.

but, i think given her age, possible lack of experience with guys, and influence from her mom, she's more confused than anything about the frame and is not really sure how this is supposed to go.

since you didn't provide any strong definitions, she had taken it upon herself to start setting the frame of the relationship with you. girls will do this themselves sometimes, and once it happens, its up to you to lead the way and settle on the definition with her.

Hey @fog thanks for analysis on my set and my interaction. !!


IMO: interesting... During in the interaction in person attraction was present, I broke her frame during the introduction and she entered my frame. from( answering her name, holding my phone, to moving over to let me sit next to her) and on text ( accepting the meet ) until her mum cockblocked me which has broke the frame but I managed to salvage a possible date. Im not sure how her mum cockblocking me has ruined my frame and pulled her self back on to the fence on me and set the frame by her self of being 'probably friends'( i still don't know if this a friendzone or not)Im guessing its backwards rationalization or possible buyers remorse + her mum's objections has casued this frame??. I plan to re set the frames in person via sexual framing, fundamentals, SOT and ect to put me in the lover frame and pull her home.
Maybe the sexual frame being set in person is still active on text being how sexually available she is to me( they wouldn't be to a platonic guy would they?) and how excited she sounds.

But i don't know how to set a 'lover frame' on text , i used the pre-existing frame from in person and carry it off from that
Can you please list some examples from where i didn't set the frames right during the text conversation and give me a couple examples where to set the lover frame on text.

You say 'its up you to lead the way and settle on the definition with her' Correct me if im wrong and applying this to me. Since she has set the frames as ' probably friends'(is this a rejection?)i am going to fight(lead the way) her frame and re set it to lover frame and make sure she accepts the sexual frame/ lover frame and she accepts it(she settle for it)

since you didn't provide any strong definitions, she had taken it upon herself to start setting the frame of the relationship with you. girls will do this themselves sometimes, and once it happens, its up to you to lead the way and settle on the definition with her.

 

[Fuck This]

Nicky boy....you are but a young lad...It is the mother's prerogative to prevent you from deflowering her daughter.

Plus you are underage. You gotta take your lumps and learn from your mistakes. As a Youngster you need to adhere to the social construct around dating. If you don't you seriously will have an angry father threatening your well being physically. and you don't have the emotional maturity at your age to separate sex from love. Girls don't either and you are going to end up being branded as a fuckboy if you don't play the game.

Meet the parents
Get their approval and trust
win over the girl
And then what happens. happens.


No parent worth a shit is going to let you swoop in for a one night stand. Believe me. My Vcard loss was under age, in a bar, with another under age girl whose sister snuck her in....Like I said about the quality of parenting...

 

[Nicko]

@Fuck This I completely agree with u with everything u say

Meet the parents
Get their approval and trust
win over the girl
And then what happens. happens.

but im filled with lust and wanting to experience the deflowering following the seduction, the normal route is not where i want to go because girls don't obey these rules and get ONS at parties, hook ups so on. It happens so much at teenage parties lmao its not even funny, the more ghetto the area frequent and pregnancy is a uncommon occurrences( shit is scary). Im sorry i can't mentally force my self to play the 'normal conventions' route because getting a girl through the 'normal way' when they display them selves as 'angels' to their parents allow themselves to get fucked in a party while drunk and calling their bf afterwards is maddening. They simply go behind the back of their parents without telling them jack shit and play it as if nothing has happened therefor the father doesn't get involved. Emotional maturity wise, sex to me is merely based on the appearance and love is the emotional connection u have with the girl. i have developed onitis in the past and i thought it was love until i discovered game. For the girl ofc they are naive/inexperienced i would have to tailor my responses to her as not to hurt her and keep it FWB and not a ONS, but thats not something i have fully planned out ill keep in mind regardless of ur advices and apply them, thanks for ur advices