Compliment opener vs qualifying compliment after approach

[Ronnie]

CASE 1

Me: "Hi, I saw you standing there and I thought that you look very cute / cool / classy"

CASE 2

Me: "Excuse me, do you know a good pizza place around here?"
Her: "Mhh let me think"
Me: "But it's gotta be good, I hate low quality pizza"
Her: "Ahah I see"
bla bla bla (2-3 minute conversation)
Me: "By the way, you're kinda cool, you know?" / "By the way, great dress. I love it"


I have been alternating these two approaches and I have to say that the second has something that the first hasn't: in addition to showing interest, you're putting yourself in the powerful position of the one who's qualifying her (the opposite of the one who's trying to impress her or trying to get something from her) as if you just noticed that she's cool while talking to her and you were generous enough to give her your approval. In general, I have noticed that this position can be very powerful in game.

What do you guys thinks?

 

[Spyce D]

2 nd case is my kind of game .

The issue is I am not able to escalate it further and also the transitioning issue

 

[DarkJedi]

CASE 1

Me: "Hi, I saw you standing there and I thought that you look very cute / cool / classy"

CASE 2

Me: "Excuse me, do you know a good pizza place around here?"
Her: "Mhh let me think"
Me: "But it's gotta be good, I hate low quality pizza"
Her: "Ahah I see"
bla bla bla (2-3 minute conversation)
Me: "By the way, you're kinda cool, you know?" / "By the way, great dress. I love it"


I have been alternating these two approaches and I have to say that the second has something that the first hasn't: in addition to showing interest, you're putting yourself in the powerful position of the one who's qualifying her (the opposite of the one who's trying to impress her or trying to get something from her) as if you just noticed that she's cool while talking to her and you were generous enough to give her your approval. In general, I have noticed that this position can be very powerful in game.

What do you guys thinks?

Classic case of direct (case 1) and indirect (case 2). I think if you can pull both of them off perfectly, you'll have more receptive girls on the indirect one, for the reasons you mentioned and also for the fact that she has some time to judge you.

Both have their challenges I think:

For the very direct approach, the girl has to like you within the first few seconds. So, you need great fundamentals, energy and delivery. Upside is, your intent is clear and if the girl is interested, things go smoothly.

For the indirect, you have more leeway. But I find it hard to transition to showing intent if the conversation has fallen into too much to the social side. I'm working on this one.

 

[James D]

I use the first opener in daygame every time.

It can come across pretty powerful when backed with the right energy.

The best way I can describe it on an energetic level is "massive curiosity triggered by her beauty."

I'm talking to her because I HAD to find out more about this mysterious beautiful girl.

But I position myself as a judge to see whether she truly lives up to that positive first impression or not.

Another way to present the mindset of the interaction:

"Based on this positive aspect about you, I have high expectations for you. Now it's your job to show me I was right"

Kinda how teachers boost their students by first holding them to a higher standard, which causes the students to work hard to meet that expectation.

The compliment is not meant to impress her.

The compliment is meant to show her what impressed you and to motivate her to keep impressing you.

 

[Police dog]

I always use the first one. Concise and straightforward.