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Conflict in understanding paradox of a feminine men (Hector's advice)

andersen09

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEv1ttilshA

So lately I've been trying out the idea of a feminine men. It reminds me a bit of guys like Neyo/Usher/Trey Songz.
It's very interesting as this is one of the scenarios that happened with a girl in my class.

Girl #1 (Younger girl, little immature, 18 years old)

Her: Yeah I feel like sometimes I'm a guy in a girl's body. I'm a tomboy.
Me: Well, I'm like the other, I'm a girl in a guy's body almost.
Her: Yeah! You act like a bitch!
Me: I'm very feminine, what can I say.
Her: Stop being a little bitch!

And we walked to a park and here's a conversation a little bit later about sex.

Her: I'm dominant with girls but submissive with guys, I don't know why. What about you?
Me: Mmm, I don't really care, it's what the girl wants. If she wants to try being dominant, I'll let her. But I think it surprises women when I become dominant in bed because they don't expect it.
Her: (Intrigued) I mean I always observe you in class, and you act like a girl.
Me: Like my actions?
Her: Yeah! a bitch!
Me: Call me a bitch again
Her: Bitch!
Me: (I playfully pull her hair) Keep saying that and I'll make you my bitch.
Her: Ow! Smiling.

At the park there were 3 guys doing Krav Maga or martial arts and she starts giving me shit.

Her: That should be you! I'm totally being racist.
Me: I ignore it.
Her: You know when I first saw you, I was like.. omg there's a hot guy in my class. But I had to tell myself I have a boyfriend. I always observe you though.
Me: (I don't say anything)
Her: You act like you're the shit but you're still a bitch!
Me: I just smirk at her. And look at her, and act like I'm gonna kiss her as there's a bit of tension.
Me: (Holding Tension) my Uber's here, gotta go :)
Her: A@(#!@#)

Girl #2 dancing.
25 years old, tall, about 6ft. I'd say a solid 7.5 or 8.

Me: Dancing
Her: Ugh! I can't be led by a man like this, where's the real man? (For everyone to hear)
Me: (Push her away physically)
Her: (Comes back to my personal space)
Me: Go find a real man
Her: No! Dance with me

Me: ????????????????????????????


Anyway, my question is this.

I noticed when I act manly and dominant, I don't get as much shit/test/disrespect and I get submissive behaviors from women.
But when I act very feminine, cheeky, playful, and mischievous a bit, I get more aggressive behaviors from women and sometimes outright disrespectful/

As in they get more comfortable and call me a "bitch" "pussy!" or "racial stereotypes" or get comfortable to "playfully disrespect me" in front of people.

If I'm being the "manly guy", I'll shut it down with iron fist as you'd say.
But being a "feminine guy", I'm kind of lost about how to deal with this type of "shit test" that borders disrespect and the types of behaviors it attracts from even the most feminine women.

Almost hostile, aggressive, and dominant.

Any feedback on how I should perceive this type of behavior?
And how I should respond to it?

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Cacc

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When you're being feminine, are you making sure you're still being edgy, dominant, and holding tension?
 
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Drck

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It is more about balance. Women have natural feminine energy: submissive, nice, sweet, talkative, emotional, being more passive, being very social and talkative, being very friendly...

Men have (well, these days perhaps SHOULD have) natural masculine energy: dominant, rougher, bold, aggressive, achieving, loners, independent, strict logic, emotionally colder...

We know that feminine attract masculine and vice versa. However, women gained lots of masculine energy in the past couple of decades. They are bolder, aggressive, achieving, dominant... At the same time, men gained lots of feminine energy: they are weaker, submissive, dependent, talkative, girly, emotional and so on...

So basically these energies are canceling each other out

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So just say some examples, lets put feminine energy on a scale of 0 to 100%, and also masculine energy on the scale from 0 to 100%:

Woman A
has 80% masculine energy and 50% feminine (note that it doesn't have to add up to 100%): she is rather a feminist, independent, achiever and so on. She might be CEO or politician, she has great education. She is not really a house wife, perhaps she is more dominant in bed. She probably has short hair, wears pants and tells lots of men to fuck off, she'll probably gets nanny to take care of her kids because she is too busy with her career

Woman B
is 80% feminine and 30% masculine. So she is very sweet, great talker, lovely. She takes great care of her household, she doesn't mind cooking and keep the home clean. She wears sexy skirt and long hair. She loves kids, she'd love to stay home with kids. But she can also make some decisions, she is not fully passive

Which one of these two you'd want? I don't know how about you, I could care less about Woman A. But I'd really love Woman B for LTR and family life.

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Let's check out men:

Guy A
is 70% feminine and 10% masculine energy. He is weak, he has nothing to live for. He doesn't exercise, he has no ambitions, no goals. He is very passive, probably fat, he has hard time making decisions. He likes to talk a lot, chit chat with girls, and he is very emotional.

Guy B
Is 95% masculine and 10% feminine. He is 250 pounds of pure muscles, true meat head with chiseled jaw and rough appearance, everybody is afraid of him. He doesn't compromise with anyone, it's "my way or highway only". He wears a shirt "Leave me the fuck alone" pretty much everywhere. He is cold, has no real emotions. As you can imagine, he has not so many friends because he cannot connect with anyone. Indeed, all his time he spent is in gym lifting tons of weighs daily

Which of these two guys is more successful with women? It's Guy B as he is pretty much pure masculine energy, he is a real man, but he is obviously no charmer at all. He should increase feminine energy, perhaps little bit decrease masculine energy. So how about:

Guy C
he is 80% masculine and 70% feminine. He is powerful physically, but he is not just a meat head. As a matter of fact, he has good (feminine) communication skills. He can laugh, he has friends, he is social, he's making lots of jokes, he can connect well with people easily...

This Guy C is a beast. He is very likable. As a matter of fact, he can decrease his feminine energy easily to 30-40% and still do pretty good. He does not have to increase Feminine energy at all...

Guy D:
He has 50% masculine energy and 50% feminine energy. Will he benefit from adding more feminine energy to his personality? There are some benefits but not really, he will just be doing more work for nothing, his attraction will not really increase. What he needs to do is to jack up his masculine energy, and leave his feminine energy alone. This way he will benefit way more...

Guy E:
There are MANY Guys E these days. They have some 50-60% feminine energy and 20-40% of masculine energy. Will they benefit from adding more feminine energy to their behavior? If they are insane, yes. If they have brains, no.

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It is all realative but Guy C is probably the best option. I would actually say that for men, Masculine energy should be around 70-80% and Feminine energy say 30-50%, that is more than enough. This combination generates lots of attraction and again - he doesn't need to increase his feminine energy at all...

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Are women attracted to:

Guy A? Nope. They could be real good friends, but there is no sexual attraction at all. They'll fuck him only if they feel really sorry for him
Guy B? Somehow. Not really. He's a man, but rather a stump. Conversations suck but the fuck is good
Guy C? Very much. He's a beast. Women will love him and they will fuck him, even with lower feminine energy. In other words, he doesn't have to play with girly stuff at all yet he remains in high demand
Guy D? He's ok. He is also fairly attractive, but he has to compensate a lot by feminine energy because his masculine energy is rather average-to-low...
Guy E? Not really. Ok, here and there, but they he is too friendly. They might make a good and loving husbands for couple years, but that is all...

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There is also a 'trick' in this: IF a guy can jack up his masculine energy to say 70-80%, many feminists with high masculine energy (and lesbians as well) will become attracted to him. Their masculine energy will decrease around him, they will become more submissive. So the 'trick' is not in increasing feminine energy in males, but rather increasing masculine energy (assuming that it is at average levels at 50% or lower)

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Based on what you wrote, you most likely already have good masculine energy levels. Adding more feminine energy will only hurt you, you are adding more work for nothing. Why deal with shit tests and disrespect if you don't have to? I mean, you could, but what is the point...
 

Michal

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I would say women give you shit and are more disrespectful if you seem meek simply because they want to test your strength. You seem weak but they are not sure how much so they test. You past the test, they are satisfied at that moment but because their emotions are fleeting, they test more because well.. they see your fundamentals which make you seem for example 75% meek. But then, you are the opposite like 90% strength so they test you less.
 
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