girlsfollow said:
I have been meeting a Lithuanian girl, very pretty, she's a dancer so v good body, only 19, first year, virgin - I've made progress so far (bra off, very heavy dry rubbing of crotches - shes admitted numerous times she wants it). I've organised a weekend getaway with her for this weekend - we did it spontaneously - pretty crazy actually we're flying away together - any idea what you would do in this situation - or any general advice with this type of girl? how can I help her? she's said she wants to and wishes she'd known me for longer so she could be sure, also said that she wants to be in love for her first time and make sure I'm serious. I'm quite open to the idea.
BTW, i've been with plenty of less conservative girls and gone all the way on the first night so this isn't just down to me setting the wrong frames.
Well, it depends on a lot of things.. What exactly do you want from this woman? If you are going on trips with her, meeting a lot and trying to make her fall in love, that really sets the frame that you want a long term relationship with her. If you just want casual hook-ups or nothing but sex, the frames seem to be organized to trick her into doing these things, and you are going to have some serious conflict later on when it comes to her attention that you didn't in fact want a relationship.
I'm just a little confused as so where the resistance to sex is coming at. If you are getting her bra off and dry rubbing crotches (assuming this means through each other pants) and she is saying she wants it, where's the problem? If she is saying she wants it, and physically acting like she wants it, you're going to need to persist and give her what she wants. I'm not saying force it on her, but every time she says wait or no, simply move back, give her more passion and try for it again. Also it'll probably help to say something along the lines of, "Don't worry" when she gives you a little objection.
Basically, it looks like you are framing this to become a long term relationship. Therefore she is going to object more and stretch things out simply because it makes more sense for her to. If you are trying to frame it as a long term relationship and then you go ahead and try and tell her that you want a casual relationship or quick hook-up, then the frame set by going on trips with her and making a large commitment to her, you are going to run into some serious problems as you basically indirectly lied to her to get sex from her.
