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I remember in a few of Ricardus's articles he made the statement that cold approach pickup is like a box of chocolates because you never know what you're going to get.
Dear Lord is that true...
I met a petite black haired girl (20) with sexy lips and cute face, decent legs, nothing special but fuckable nonetheless. I stopped her in the parking lot of a Whole Foods store as I was walking out the door she was walking towards me and I stopped her gave her a direct compliment and started chatting her up. Really really basic.
The conversation didn't even go that well, struggled to find convo threads to work off of and think I insulted her once by accident and even got into some deep spiritual thread at some point during this 5 minute interaction. It was a messy approach but I touched her a few times and joked around a little bit and we exchanged numbers.
I figured she would flake but I texted her an icebreaker and she replied back. I didn't text her back for 5 days before asking her out but the texting is here if you want to read: *If you're a newbie note how simplistic this all is nothing remotely fancy whatsoever.
The Date
We went to a restaurant at the beach around sunset and the view was absolutely immaculate. She looked hotter than I remembered her being (though not a stunner by any means) which is always good.
Honestly there isn't a ton to report here other than some teasing (push/pull), deep diving (learned about her college ambitions to be a biologist, travels across the world, etc, and most importantly her hinting at her messed up childhood in which her dad abused her), and a bit of humor thrown in here and there.
Mistakes I made in the date:
-She asked me "so what are you passionate about?" and I replied with some drawn out rant on how I think people should go after what they want rather than sit around and wish their life was awesome. It would've been much more intriguing to have a one sentence laid back answer that would have "baited" her to dig deeper and make her work rather than show her the card outright.
-Didn't feed back everything she said to build a proper connection
-went on a couple threads that were pretty purposeless but more so just to keep conversation going. Me hearing myself talk.
-she showed me a picture of her science lab she did and I insulted her in an attempt to tease... However I recovered from this quite well.
+I did a good job of sticking to the process and forging on past any mistakes made
+I did good job of cutting bad threads and changing to a better topic
+Stayed icy when she was talking about her troubled past (not an emotional tampon for her)
After dinner we were walking back to our cars and I successfully used a Yes ladder for the first time in my life. Well the yes ladder ended with that we should continue on into the night and she objected and said she had some group study thing to go to. I persisted past this seeming token resistance and invited her back to my house for desert.
I stick to a pretty strict diet of no gluten, sugar, or preservatives therefore most deserts/food is out of the question for me.
Not the most glamorous diet but the best part about it is it give GREAT plausible deniability to bring a girl home.
She thinks "Well we didn't have a choice but to go back to his house! He can't eat anywhere else." Boom shakalaka baby
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Escalation begins
We get back to my house and I make her comfortable and we eat some berries for desert. I manage to pull her back to my room with the excuse to "see how depressing my room looks".
I like using a fun tidbit I stole from RSDJulien as a unique way to make things a bit more sexual in a self amusing manner.
All this said dramatic and with a tone of "what cha gonna do?". As in she can either play along or tell you that's inappropriate but most importantly no matter how she reacts its funny to you.
It's basically creating a false reality for a moment that piques her imagination and hits on an emotional level, whilst introducing sex to the equation as well. Fun stuff and you can play around with this in any form or fashion obviously this is a more risqué extreme example, so play around with it change out the scenario to something else.
This usually gets a really great reaction/result (result being that it shows I don't give a fuck and piques her interest) except for in this instance when I said it to this girl she got quite offended and looked as if she was about to cry (this was unfortunately a common theme of the night). I immediately said sorry and that I have a messed up sense of humor because of my childhood (not true but whatever) and moved on.
Anyway we keep talking and soon enough I lay her down on my bed and kiss her. She doesn't resist.
We continue kissing on and off but she won't give me any tongue so I simply tell her "shove your tongue down my throat" in which she does so very sexually.
At this point I thought she was liking the commands so I continued by commanding her to "hold me tighter", "suck my neck" (she resisted this one but I told her "don't worry it just makes it more sexy"), and finally I looked her deep in her eyes and said "I want you to suck my dick girl".
She about freaked out and left after I said this. Clearly I had hit a negative emotional button which prompted this reaction that most women would either have done so happily, laughed at, or dismissed. Turned out she was sexually abused as a child and has a lot of emotional baggage when it comes to sex and sexual things.
Yet I still hadn't connected the dots at this point and was still in primal overcome LMR and FUCK mode.
I calmed her down, talk, and start making out again. I'm finding that she's not getting super turned on so I decided to try something a bit radical that I also stole from RSDJulien.
Basically when you're escalating with a girl act as if you're getting super turned on in an overly dramatic way. Say stuff like "oh my gosh this is sooo overwhelming for me"; "I'm practically insatiable for you right now" and basically just get really into it as if you were in some weird erotica movie.
This helped me a lot because it made it more interactive and amusing to me. One piece of dialogue I find amusing:
. I'm like the emotion master tinkering with her emotions.
This carries on and I try to get her pants off but she won't let me. I try a couple times of just slowly unbuttoning the pants but she resists every time. Finally I get tired and just try and yank the fuckers off, but when I do this she freaks and looks as if she's about to cry again.
I calm her down and talk all over again and she informs me that she doesn't like it when I'm aggressive or demanding of her to perform sexual favors.
I recognize this is because of her abused past and decide to dial it down. I talk to her more and cold read her by assuming that she likes seduction to be slow and sensual as if a fine dance. She says exactly and her attraction increases because I know what she likes without having to be told explicitly. This establishes a new layer of trust which goes far into the escalation.
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Shit hits the fan
Just for good measure the emotional flow of escalation looked like this.
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Basically it would crest and wane like waves. It was actually pretty cool as it forced me to pace, persist, and get creative.
At this point we were getting more hot and heavy and she willingly started undressing me after I put her hand on my boner through my pants. She then started taking my pants off and I her until we were both in our underwear feeling each other up. She wouldn't let me touch/stimulate her vagina because of her past of being sexually abused it freaks her out.
She's fucking delicate if you go one move somewhere wrong she recoils and you have to start escalating from scratch all over again. Sad really that someone would do that to a girl and fuck them up emotionally for life. However I also had this in mind that she might be cluster B status woman and god knows what she might be like after sex.
So were getting into it, she asks if I have a condom, and she's about to take my boxers off and the thought occurs to me that she might be clingy or weird after sex (I've never been with a girl that's been abused in this manner) or simply crazy and that might be a pain in the ass to deal with later.
I decide to then tell her that I'm bad at relationships and therefore don't do them. I said this in order to set no expectations of a future for us so she knows the deal.
Well she doesn't take to this well at all!
She gets up,
puts her clothes back on,
talks about how men always do this to her,
and then starts crying!
I'm thinking "fucking A I was one minute away from fucking this girl and I just ruined the whole thing! No way I'm recovering from this"
Though at the same time I'm a little sad I made her cry.
So I deep dive her emotions, flesh out what actually happened in her past relationships, I act like her emotional bucket/therapist. I use this as an opportunity to connect to her on a very personal level and she talks about past relationships along with when she was abused (did I mention she has a LOT of baggage).
I guess many of you would think this would be buzz kill and pain in the ass, and it kind of was, but at the same time I really empathized for this girl and her struggles (the icy pimp in me was cursing at me) and enjoyed the challenge of bringing her out of her state of out of control sadness to a state of hope and her feeling connected to me rather than opposed to me.
We reconcile and I tell her she can spend the night either way and it's all good.
So she takes her clothes off again and comes and snuggles up with me and we go to sleep.
She was still coming down from her emotional frenzy so I decide to not escalate again immediately and plan to wake her up later in the night to try again.
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The Final Frontier
So around 4 in the morning I wake up and can't go back to sleep so I decide to wake her up to comfort my loneliness. She's in deep sleep and will hardly open her eyes to talk to me.
Damn it I've got to find a way to wake her the fuck up and escalate without her freaking out and having another emotional breakdown.
I start by asking her retarded "what if" questions and take on the role of a curious obnoxious as fuck bored 3 year old.
I pretty much just do anything to wake her the fuck up and have sex including:
-I steal the pillow and make her kiss me to get it back
-Steal the sheets and make a game out of it (pretend to kick her out unless she answers a ridiculous question)
-kiss her all over her body a tell her I'm Gomez from the Adams family
-talk about hypothetical situations ("what would you do if"/"Have you ever")
-do the over exaggeration of emotion/lust
-push/pull her emotions
I do everything and we'll kiss on and off and the vibe starts to wane and crest again as the picture before showed.
I swear this whole process was like building a house of cards. You have to make moves but in an extremely gentle fashion and be sure you don't knock the damn thing over all over again.
I keep spiking her emotions and make her start chasing a bit to the point she making out with me hard and FINNALLY asks if I have a condom.
In the green light now baby.
She undresses me and then she undresses herself awkwardly and the 4 hours of total escalation time pay off.
Looking back because I've incorporated all these super obnoxious and crazy escalation techniques that are really funny to me, escalation is something I enjoy rather than oppose now (hopefully this will continue).
To be honest escalating past all that bullshit was just as fun as having sex for me. I really recommend trying out some of these techniques or make up your own derivatives of these to fit your style. Don't be afraid to change it up either to save your ego or keep from feeling weird.
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Beating the Boss
I view seduction as if it were a game of Super Mario, and your on the "castle" level where you have to work your way up past the bullshit to the boss.
For example here if I'm Mario the turtle would be a shit test and I'm about to slide right by.
Anyway in Mario on the "castle" level or whatever (any of you nerds out there probably know the correct terminology) once you get past all the bullshit and get to the top of the castle you have to fight the "boss".
When you fight the boss you die in one hit and it takes like 4 or 5 hits to beat the boss.
I metaphorically view sex as the part of the level where you have to beat the boss for everything to go smooth and save princess peach so you can fuck her in the ass. (or in seduction fuck her till she cum's multiple times so that she'll actually call you back)
So yeah it was time to face the boss and.... I died in one hit and lost the level with no retry's... Yup I came in like 5 minutes or less HAHA. Damn premature ejaculation!
I always ejaculate prematurely but it's usually not an issue and I just stay hard pretend like the condom broke and put a new one on and keep hammering away but I couldn't keep any wood after this to save my life in this instance.
I then got a bit insecure and tried to make it seem like I did a good job even though it sucked. Haha she saw straight through this and it was really pretty lame on my part how I handled it.
But my mom told me as long as I tried my best that's all that matters!
Anyway another fun report hope you guys enjoyed it and hopefully I'll be posting another LR soon enough.
Keep it pimpin, pimpin
-Rob
Dear Lord is that true...
I met a petite black haired girl (20) with sexy lips and cute face, decent legs, nothing special but fuckable nonetheless. I stopped her in the parking lot of a Whole Foods store as I was walking out the door she was walking towards me and I stopped her gave her a direct compliment and started chatting her up. Really really basic.
The conversation didn't even go that well, struggled to find convo threads to work off of and think I insulted her once by accident and even got into some deep spiritual thread at some point during this 5 minute interaction. It was a messy approach but I touched her a few times and joked around a little bit and we exchanged numbers.
I figured she would flake but I texted her an icebreaker and she replied back. I didn't text her back for 5 days before asking her out but the texting is here if you want to read: *If you're a newbie note how simplistic this all is nothing remotely fancy whatsoever.
Me: XYZ cool to meet you
Her: It was good to meet you too. have fun at your reading thing (it was actually public speaking but close enough)
5 days later...
Me: XYZ hey! Its been a crazy week sorry for not getting back to you. Your week go drama free?
Her: Yep it usually is drama free. I spent my time in school and with good friends.
Me: Cool! (don't really care just trying to be enthusiastic/positive) What are you plans for the weekend?
Her: I work blah blah blah. I get off at 6 on sunday dunno what I'm doing after.. maybe study group. What about you?
Me: Pretty busy today/tonight (not really just pimpin) I get off work around 6 sunday too. Lets grab dinner after. What u say?
Her: sure blah blah blah
Me: (sort out logistics) Who evers late has to pay
Her: Ok challenge accepted
The Date
We went to a restaurant at the beach around sunset and the view was absolutely immaculate. She looked hotter than I remembered her being (though not a stunner by any means) which is always good.
Honestly there isn't a ton to report here other than some teasing (push/pull), deep diving (learned about her college ambitions to be a biologist, travels across the world, etc, and most importantly her hinting at her messed up childhood in which her dad abused her), and a bit of humor thrown in here and there.
Mistakes I made in the date:
-She asked me "so what are you passionate about?" and I replied with some drawn out rant on how I think people should go after what they want rather than sit around and wish their life was awesome. It would've been much more intriguing to have a one sentence laid back answer that would have "baited" her to dig deeper and make her work rather than show her the card outright.
-Didn't feed back everything she said to build a proper connection
-went on a couple threads that were pretty purposeless but more so just to keep conversation going. Me hearing myself talk.
-she showed me a picture of her science lab she did and I insulted her in an attempt to tease... However I recovered from this quite well.
+I did a good job of sticking to the process and forging on past any mistakes made
+I did good job of cutting bad threads and changing to a better topic
+Stayed icy when she was talking about her troubled past (not an emotional tampon for her)
After dinner we were walking back to our cars and I successfully used a Yes ladder for the first time in my life. Well the yes ladder ended with that we should continue on into the night and she objected and said she had some group study thing to go to. I persisted past this seeming token resistance and invited her back to my house for desert.
I stick to a pretty strict diet of no gluten, sugar, or preservatives therefore most deserts/food is out of the question for me.
Not the most glamorous diet but the best part about it is it give GREAT plausible deniability to bring a girl home.
She thinks "Well we didn't have a choice but to go back to his house! He can't eat anywhere else." Boom shakalaka baby
.Escalation begins
We get back to my house and I make her comfortable and we eat some berries for desert. I manage to pull her back to my room with the excuse to "see how depressing my room looks".
I like using a fun tidbit I stole from RSDJulien as a unique way to make things a bit more sexual in a self amusing manner.
All this said dramatic and with a tone of "what cha gonna do?". As in she can either play along or tell you that's inappropriate but most importantly no matter how she reacts its funny to you.
It's basically creating a false reality for a moment that piques her imagination and hits on an emotional level, whilst introducing sex to the equation as well. Fun stuff and you can play around with this in any form or fashion obviously this is a more risqué extreme example, so play around with it change out the scenario to something else.
This usually gets a really great reaction/result (result being that it shows I don't give a fuck and piques her interest) except for in this instance when I said it to this girl she got quite offended and looked as if she was about to cry (this was unfortunately a common theme of the night). I immediately said sorry and that I have a messed up sense of humor because of my childhood (not true but whatever) and moved on.
Anyway we keep talking and soon enough I lay her down on my bed and kiss her. She doesn't resist.
We continue kissing on and off but she won't give me any tongue so I simply tell her "shove your tongue down my throat" in which she does so very sexually.
At this point I thought she was liking the commands so I continued by commanding her to "hold me tighter", "suck my neck" (she resisted this one but I told her "don't worry it just makes it more sexy"), and finally I looked her deep in her eyes and said "I want you to suck my dick girl".
She about freaked out and left after I said this. Clearly I had hit a negative emotional button which prompted this reaction that most women would either have done so happily, laughed at, or dismissed. Turned out she was sexually abused as a child and has a lot of emotional baggage when it comes to sex and sexual things.
Yet I still hadn't connected the dots at this point and was still in primal overcome LMR and FUCK mode.
I calmed her down, talk, and start making out again. I'm finding that she's not getting super turned on so I decided to try something a bit radical that I also stole from RSDJulien.
Basically when you're escalating with a girl act as if you're getting super turned on in an overly dramatic way. Say stuff like "oh my gosh this is sooo overwhelming for me"; "I'm practically insatiable for you right now" and basically just get really into it as if you were in some weird erotica movie.
This helped me a lot because it made it more interactive and amusing to me. One piece of dialogue I find amusing:
Obviously this is all bullshit I'm saying to hit on an emotional level which when read logically makes no sense whatsoever. However when I employed this technique it made her chase/invest and ultimately spike the roller coaster of emotion that we're riding which makes it more exciting for both of us (plus highly entertaining for meHer: I can't tell if you're acting or not! (said in a frustrated way)
Me: I'm sorry it's just that...
Her: What!
Me: No I've said too much..
Her: No! Tell me!
Me: Well it's just that..
Her: Yes!
Me: Your lips are soo succulent when you put your tongue through my mouth I just get overwhelmed
Her: I feel it too (puts hand on my chest give me Bambi eyes)
Me: It's okay though I can handle it.. now pretend I'm the only man left on the face of the earth and your going to die in a minute. How would you kiss me?!
Her: kisses me visciously
. I'm like the emotion master tinkering with her emotions.This carries on and I try to get her pants off but she won't let me. I try a couple times of just slowly unbuttoning the pants but she resists every time. Finally I get tired and just try and yank the fuckers off, but when I do this she freaks and looks as if she's about to cry again.
I calm her down and talk all over again and she informs me that she doesn't like it when I'm aggressive or demanding of her to perform sexual favors.
I recognize this is because of her abused past and decide to dial it down. I talk to her more and cold read her by assuming that she likes seduction to be slow and sensual as if a fine dance. She says exactly and her attraction increases because I know what she likes without having to be told explicitly. This establishes a new layer of trust which goes far into the escalation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shit hits the fan
Just for good measure the emotional flow of escalation looked like this.
-
----
--
-------
--
----------
-----
--------------
Basically it would crest and wane like waves. It was actually pretty cool as it forced me to pace, persist, and get creative.
At this point we were getting more hot and heavy and she willingly started undressing me after I put her hand on my boner through my pants. She then started taking my pants off and I her until we were both in our underwear feeling each other up. She wouldn't let me touch/stimulate her vagina because of her past of being sexually abused it freaks her out.
She's fucking delicate if you go one move somewhere wrong she recoils and you have to start escalating from scratch all over again. Sad really that someone would do that to a girl and fuck them up emotionally for life. However I also had this in mind that she might be cluster B status woman and god knows what she might be like after sex.
So were getting into it, she asks if I have a condom, and she's about to take my boxers off and the thought occurs to me that she might be clingy or weird after sex (I've never been with a girl that's been abused in this manner) or simply crazy and that might be a pain in the ass to deal with later.
I decide to then tell her that I'm bad at relationships and therefore don't do them. I said this in order to set no expectations of a future for us so she knows the deal.
Well she doesn't take to this well at all!
She gets up,
puts her clothes back on,
talks about how men always do this to her,
and then starts crying!
I'm thinking "fucking A I was one minute away from fucking this girl and I just ruined the whole thing! No way I'm recovering from this"
Though at the same time I'm a little sad I made her cry.
So I deep dive her emotions, flesh out what actually happened in her past relationships, I act like her emotional bucket/therapist. I use this as an opportunity to connect to her on a very personal level and she talks about past relationships along with when she was abused (did I mention she has a LOT of baggage).
I guess many of you would think this would be buzz kill and pain in the ass, and it kind of was, but at the same time I really empathized for this girl and her struggles (the icy pimp in me was cursing at me) and enjoyed the challenge of bringing her out of her state of out of control sadness to a state of hope and her feeling connected to me rather than opposed to me.
We reconcile and I tell her she can spend the night either way and it's all good.
So she takes her clothes off again and comes and snuggles up with me and we go to sleep.
She was still coming down from her emotional frenzy so I decide to not escalate again immediately and plan to wake her up later in the night to try again.
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The Final Frontier
So around 4 in the morning I wake up and can't go back to sleep so I decide to wake her up to comfort my loneliness. She's in deep sleep and will hardly open her eyes to talk to me.
Damn it I've got to find a way to wake her the fuck up and escalate without her freaking out and having another emotional breakdown.
I start by asking her retarded "what if" questions and take on the role of a curious obnoxious as fuck bored 3 year old.
I pretty much just do anything to wake her the fuck up and have sex including:
-I steal the pillow and make her kiss me to get it back
-Steal the sheets and make a game out of it (pretend to kick her out unless she answers a ridiculous question)
-kiss her all over her body a tell her I'm Gomez from the Adams family
-talk about hypothetical situations ("what would you do if"/"Have you ever")
-do the over exaggeration of emotion/lust
-push/pull her emotions
I do everything and we'll kiss on and off and the vibe starts to wane and crest again as the picture before showed.
I swear this whole process was like building a house of cards. You have to make moves but in an extremely gentle fashion and be sure you don't knock the damn thing over all over again.
I keep spiking her emotions and make her start chasing a bit to the point she making out with me hard and FINNALLY asks if I have a condom.
In the green light now baby
.She undresses me and then she undresses herself awkwardly and the 4 hours of total escalation time pay off.
Looking back because I've incorporated all these super obnoxious and crazy escalation techniques that are really funny to me, escalation is something I enjoy rather than oppose now (hopefully this will continue).
To be honest escalating past all that bullshit was just as fun as having sex for me. I really recommend trying out some of these techniques or make up your own derivatives of these to fit your style. Don't be afraid to change it up either to save your ego or keep from feeling weird.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beating the Boss
I view seduction as if it were a game of Super Mario, and your on the "castle" level where you have to work your way up past the bullshit to the boss.
For example here if I'm Mario the turtle would be a shit test and I'm about to slide right by.
Anyway in Mario on the "castle" level or whatever (any of you nerds out there probably know the correct terminology) once you get past all the bullshit and get to the top of the castle you have to fight the "boss".
When you fight the boss you die in one hit and it takes like 4 or 5 hits to beat the boss.
I metaphorically view sex as the part of the level where you have to beat the boss for everything to go smooth and save princess peach so you can fuck her in the ass. (or in seduction fuck her till she cum's multiple times so that she'll actually call you back)
So yeah it was time to face the boss and.... I died in one hit and lost the level with no retry's... Yup I came in like 5 minutes or less HAHA. Damn premature ejaculation!
I always ejaculate prematurely but it's usually not an issue and I just stay hard pretend like the condom broke and put a new one on and keep hammering away but I couldn't keep any wood after this to save my life in this instance.
I then got a bit insecure and tried to make it seem like I did a good job even though it sucked. Haha she saw straight through this and it was really pretty lame on my part how I handled it.
But my mom told me as long as I tried my best that's all that matters!
Anyway another fun report hope you guys enjoyed it and hopefully I'll be posting another LR soon enough.
Keep it pimpin, pimpin
-Rob
